opinion of virtual console?

the definition of piracy was changed to include file sharing

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/piracy

3 a : the unauthorized use of another's production, invention, or conception especially in infringement of a copyright



the impact on the industry is overstated, people that "pirate" every game/song/movie they ever consume would have never paid full price for any of their content in the first place. people that casually "pirate" games/songs/movies tend to do so as a method of trial, they end up purchasing the pieces they like.

what bugs me is how the industry now equates second hand sales with piracy. this is what happens when the industry gets the only voice in the debate. they get to define all the rules. but in the end, the industry will crash from their heavy handiness. their problems arent from the "pirates", their problems are from their lack of quality content.

I agree that if the industry gets to call the shots, we'll soon see second hand sales mentioned as a form of piracy in our dictionaries.

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Originally Posted by Phantar

If vikings made their own copy of a home and all the goods, intending to use it only for themselves...

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^ fixed that for ya ;)

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Originally Posted by MrMatthews

I wasn't trying to call you out on anything earlier. There's nothing wrong with changing your opinion after learning about and considering new information. And to be honest, I've watched your opinion about the Wii and the VC change quite a bit over the past month.

So did you call Nintendo to ask about DLC? I've grown increasingly concerned about DLC-recovery lately and I've been considering asking them about it myself.

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Yeah, I know... it was a reply to pimpuigi.


True, and yes, I definitely have, lol. I feel a lil bit like a tool. Overall, I'm still upset at some of the ways Nintendo goes about releasing their products and how they develop their games, but overall I'm very impressed with the package.

The whole WiiWare has me tripping out... I'm 'hoping' there's more quality hidden in there... these two that I bought yesterday are freaking stellar... I'm completely blown away by the simpleness and back to basics NES feel + gorgeous new looks/colors/etc. (the Castlevania and Contra games that is).

The Master Blaster game looks like it's gonna be more of the same.
I've got ZERO issues supporting proprietary quality software via DLC IF it means that more of the same quality will be released.


Yeah, I called them up and asked a million questions, lol. THey told me that in the event that my Wii fails/locks up/dies/etc (and if I didn't have anything backed up), I would have to send my Wii back for repair OR I would need to have them transfer my existing 'Game Account' from the old Wii Serial # to whatever new Wii Serial # I got from buying a new Wii.

If it's past the Warranty, then I'm 'assuming' the repair isn't going to be free.
It's probably a stock $50-60sih to repair the console to 'like new' condition I'm guessing.

I hope mine never gets hurt, lol... and the way I'm super anal about putting my Consoles up and having them covered/etc when I'm not using them, I don't have anything to worry about. :o

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Originally Posted by 17daysolderthannes

just puttin' this out there: the 6000+ MAME ROMs torrent is great :D

If only people would learn to listen to me sometimes, crises could be averted, but no, I'm just a blabbering mental patient, that's all, my input should mean nothing.

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People stopped listening to you when you began repeating the same ignorant, whining with every discussion.

"just puttin' this out there" you say, and again throw 'Pirated Emulation' onto the table again. I don't think anybody here "doesn't know" your stance on the virtual console because 'people listened to you the first time.' You are blabbering, and your 'input' does mean nothing, at least no more than anybody else. When you finally realize this fundamental detail, then maybe people would take you more seriously.

A second point to be made for your benefit:
Most people already know about emulation, you are not impressing anybody but yourself by acting the part of a pretentious know-it-all pirate in the face of legitimate discussion about a game service. If you 'feel the need to personally educate the masses', do what TheEdge did and start a topic about it, keep it contained. As colorful as a topic can become when you participate, in the end you're still an abrasive cancer to discussion.

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Originally Posted by Christuserloeser

I agree that if the industry gets to call the shots, we'll soon see second hand sales mentioned as a form of piracy in our dictionaries.

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Canadian judgement has always passed with fair use as a priority but eventually the laws will be mutated by selective interests.

Fuckin' Copyright Tyranny. :mad:

http://www.nintendo.com/wii/virtualc...7O5ieZt0GeWT8T

OMfG, lol... look at that 'Tear', guys. Nintendos' own video shows the same shit I'm seeing on my TV.



I'm about to call them and hang them.
$9 a Sprite based non 3d game with Tearing... lol... they're out of their bloody minds

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

http://www.nintendo.com/wii/virtualc...7O5ieZt0GeWT8T

OMfG, lol... look at that 'Tear', guys. Nintendos' own video shows the same shit I'm seeing on my TV.



I'm about to call them and hang them.
$9 a Sprite based non 3d game with Tearing... lol... they're out of their bloody minds

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You think tearing was uncommon in old consoles?
The NES games still have slowdown on the wii. The emulation is accurate to the hardware. There's no filtering.

What does "tearing" mean ? I can't see anything wrong with Ninja Commando...

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Originally Posted by Knuckle Duster

You think tearing was uncommon in old consoles?

The NES games still have slowdown on the wii. The emulation is accurate to the hardware. There's no filtering.

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Tearing doesn't exist on non 3D games. Do you know what Tearing is?
Has nothing to do with Slowdown.


Really? Wonder why none of the Youtube Neo Geo vids have this horrible Tearing effect in their videos.

I'm on the phone with Nintendo atm... not sure how this is going to end but I'm remaining firm in my stance that I'm not paying for a broken product.

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Originally Posted by Christuserloeser

What does "tearing" mean ? I can't see anything wrong with Ninja Commando...

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This isn't exactly the same kind of tearing that would be exhibited in a 3D game with No working V-Sync... but the effect I'm seeing is a horizontal squiggly looking artifact that goes from one side of the screen to the other.

It occurs at about 3/4 of the screen from the bottom.
It's plainly visible in Nintendos own video. Right when the game starts, look at the Black and Yellow ground textures and you'll see it.

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Originally Posted by Christuserloeser

What does "tearing" mean ? I can't see anything wrong with Ninja Commando...

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I assume he's raging about how the sprite's tear apart when they scroll vertically. It's not really a big deal.

Notice in the video as soon as gameplay starts, the Black & Yellow wall (or whatever that is) on the left side.

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

Tearing doesn't exist on non 3D games. Do you know what Tearing is?
Has nothing to do with Slowdown.


Really? Wonder why none of the Youtube Neo Geo vids have this horrible Tearing effect in their videos.

I'm on the phone with Nintendo atm... not sure how this is going to end but I'm remaining firm in my stance that I'm not paying for a broken product.

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That was my point, it's not 'Broken' it's likely the same as it was on the original hardware. That's also what I meant by the slowdown being intact.

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Originally Posted by Knuckle Duster

I assume he's raging about how the sprite's tear apart when they scroll vertically. It's not really a big deal.

Notice in the video as soon as gameplay starts, the Black & Yellow wall (or whatever that is) on the left side.


That was my point, it's not 'Broken' it's likely the same as it was on the original hardware. That's also what I meant by the slowdown being intact.

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It's not:!: :?: So I should be cool with graphical anomolies as long as you're ok with them? "not a big deal"... are you serious? It looks HORRIBLE. Every step I move my character forward, the screen tears and it looks ridiculous.


For the 2nd time, the original hardware does NOT display this artifact!





lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-gL5KjF02k

Well fuckin A... I don't see the artifact in this guys video.
I wonder wth is causing it on my Interlaced 'old' Analog tv then.


I just got done reading how the Neo Geo Emulations on VC don't work on Progressive Scan tvs (unless they've got the right resolution to choose from on their tv) and that people have to use the normal Composite cables to play them.

I'm using the normal Composite cables on an Interlaced tv... what in the world. :?



bunch of buttsex this is

Oh, Nintendo's CSR is going to hate you...

I think I finally pinpointed your problem. You're just high-maintenance, plain and simple. :D When you go out to eat with your GF, how critical of the waiter/waitress are you when calculating the tip?

Virtual Console is only a service platform. Whoever offers content is responsible for emulation and additional features - e.g. Sega of Japan hired M2 for their Mega Drive and Master System games: http://www.mtwo.co.jp/

Presentation, promo text, and everything else is then handled by the local Sega divisions (with the usual incompetence I might add)

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Originally Posted by MrMatthews

Oh, Nintendo's CSR is going to hate you...

I think I finally pinpointed your problem. You're just high-maintenance, plain and simple. :D When you go out to eat with your GF, how critical of the waiter/waitress are you when calculating the tip?

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;) I'm a big tipper and am very lenient depending on the situation.

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Originally Posted by Christuserloeser

Virtual Console is only a service platform. Whoever offers content is responsible for emulation and additional features - e.g. Sega of Japan hired M2 for their Mega Drive and Master System games: http://www.mtwo.co.jp/

Presentation, promo text, and everything else is then handled by the local Sega divisions (with the usual incompetence I might add)

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Who's the Publisher in this case? Nintendo right? They're the ones providing the game to the public 'via the VC'. 9/10, it's the Pub who accepts responsibility for bugs/etc in regard to PC Gaming.


I wouldn't imagine it's any different in the Console world... right?

What I meant is that SNK Playmore is the publisher in case of Ninja Commando.