They did the Port for VC?Quote:
Originally Posted by Christuserloeser
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They did the Port for VC?Quote:
Originally Posted by Christuserloeser
This has been my concern from the get-go and everyone has pretty much said "lol, your dumb". Until they ensure permanent entitlement to the DLC, I'll only support must-haves that aren't available on discs.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMatthews
This is spot on.Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisbid
#1 people that get on torrents and download 6,000 movies wouldn't buy all of those if they had to pay full price for each one. In fact, they may not buy any at all. I never bought music before Napster and I never bought music after Napster. The only time I really listen to music is in my car and if I couldn't get the music free, I'd just deal with the shitty radio or listen to nothing at all (which I used to do a good bit before I got my iPhone). Also, in the case of retro roms, it's mostly about education that can ultimately lead to sales via free advertisement. If I tell my friends about a bunch of cool games and they don't want to go through the trouble of configuring PC emulation, they may go buy it for the Wii VC. Hell, I've pirated plenty, yet I still own 650+ physical games and the only reason that hasn't been increasing is because I soon won't have the space for them and they'll have to go into storage as it is.
#2 TOTALLY! Any level headed human being would want to pay money to support games they like. One big reason for piracy is just to have a good trial. Demos can sometimes be misleading by giving you only the best level and then you buy the game and find out the rest absolutely sucks. Retro games don't have demos, so ROMs are the only way to check them out.
Try $100+. Factory repairs don't come cheap. This is one more reason I'm very against the idea of 1 console 1 serial number purchases. What if someone jacks your Wii and you don't even know your serial number to deauthorize it to transfer your DLC? At least with physical games there's limitations to what someone could steal unless they have all day. Also, there's a better chance of them getting caught if you hurry and report it to the police and all the local game stores/pawn shops to be on the look out for someone trading in boatloads of games.Quote:
Originally Posted by OldSchool
That doesn't always help. XBOX 360s will RROD pretty much no matter what, I literally don't know a single XBOX 360 owner that hasn't had it happen. If repaired by someone that knows what they're doing, they tend to go for a little while, but the systems I've repaired have only been back in service about a year and a half, so who knows what will happen 5-10 years from now. Wiis and PS3s have a better track record (excluding the backwards compatible ps3s), but systems that get hot enough to require fans tend to not last as long as older hardware due to thermal cycling, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by OldSchool
I posted that because it's better emulation and more flexible, not because it's piracy you jackass. Think of common sense reasons for my posts before going off on nonsense irrelevant tangents. I don't like supporting half-assed commercial emulations. I'd rather do without than download pretty much anything on the Wii VC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knuckle Duster
I see what you mean, and that is V-Sync issues. With proper configuration, MAME shouldn't do that. Ironically, my video out from my computer has a tear that travels from the bottom to the top of the screen about once every 5 minutes, but it's so infrequent it's not really an issue (I have a hell of a network of adapters and other crap though, a straight S-Video out from the video card probably wouldn't have that problem). Constant frame tears drive me insane, I won't use emulators if they don't have V-Sync.Quote:
Originally Posted by OldSchool
They hold the rights to publish games for the VC, they bought a license from Nintendo. The developer or copyright holder licensed it to them as a middle man.Quote:
Originally Posted by OldSchool
It should be noted that Nintendo has removed material from the European VC that got uploaded & was legitimately broken, the game would crash for everybody. It was an obscure title but did get removed after complaints. They do listen. Put up a stink and they might push for a patch to it. That happens too.
Justify your ignorance and consistent whining any way you feel like. It doesn't change any point that I've made in regards to your output. We know you would rather do without than download from the VC, yet you continue to troll VC threads with your 'opinion'.Quote:
Originally Posted by 17daysolderthannes
It's cool to have an opinion, but when you repeat it & hinge outside arguments as being irrelevant if only people would heed your wisdom, that's when the pretentious & cocky stupidity flag is raised on your part. It's just coincidence that in this instance your 'rhetoric' should rely on piracy.
That is the case though... as long as I own the Wii, I'm good to go... well, lol... and as long as Nintendo is in business. Perfect scenario would be = my Wii stays alive forever and the DLed games last forever on my SD card.Quote:
Originally Posted by 17daysolderthannes
I doubt it's $100 but I'm going to find out tonight and report back tomoddow.
Well, since you mentioned how unreliable 360s are, I'm going to have do lots of research before buying one... still a long ways away seeing as they're no where near the $200 price point yet. When they've got one with a 160 GB drive for $200, I might bite depending on what I read about their reliability (and more importantly, how many Exclusive games are out for it that I want).
Yup... I don't understand how a 2D game is having Tear Issues in the first place, but I'm a noob when it comes to emulation so...
Just curious 17daysolderetc, what is your method of repairing these Xbox 360s that suffer from the RROD?
I'm sorry, I'm trolling an opinion thread with my opinion? I guess I should be reprimanded for voting in a voting booth as well :huh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Knuckle Duster
I repeat my statement because every single fucking thread goes like this:
someone: "hey, I want game X"
me: "I recommend just emulating it, it's the most accurate way outside of a physical copy"
someone: "I'm going to ignore you and instead pay money for an inferior quality product"
me: *facepalm*
someone: "Oh shit! this emulation sucks! I wasted my money on this crap!"
...and the cycle continues.
Same goes for alot of things...
someone: "hey, I want to do mod X on my system and I have no experience!"
me: "bad idea"
someone: "HEY MAN! YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME!"
some time later...
someone: "so, I totally boned my system and it's a hunk of junk now"
me: *facepalm*
If people would just CONSIDER what I say sometimes, crises could be averted.
But they WON'T last forever on your SD card (maybe if you copy them to something else and copy them back every 5 years or so they will).Quote:
Originally Posted by OldSchool
I don't doubt for a second it's $100 for most repairs. It's probably more.
The new XBOX 360 slim might finally be reliable since it's the first 100% redesign. Still, I wouldn't count on it, everything I've ever used from Microsoft was 100% fail except for the original XBOX since everything about it was made by someone else except the OS.
The game is having tearing issues because it's not rendering the frames at the same frequency of the refresh rate of your monitor. Regardless of the gameplay framerate (what you see when you turn FPS counters on), the display of any analog NTSC TV is outputting 60 fps, even if some of those frames are actually the same frame. Any powerful computer should be able to properly render these frames, but if the timing is not synced, it will have a constant tear between the end of the last frame and the start of the new frame. V Sync makes this gap occur off screen below/above the frame so it appears seamless.
The towel fixQuote:
Originally Posted by Robivy64
OMGWTFBBQLMAO j/k
I did the screw and washer fix. There are a shit ton of varieties out there, many of which are fundamentally incorrect and won't work well if at all. It takes a thorough understanding of what is taking place to do it to where it will last longer than a couple days/weeks/a month. Of any repair, I would say RROD is the most art vs. straightforward plug-and-play.
I know what V-Sync does... I was saying I've only ever seen Tears in 3D games and never in a 2D game (because I don't emulate).Quote:
Originally Posted by 17daysolderthannes
I'll have my SD card backed up to my PC so I'm not worried in the least.
The only true fix is to reball the CPU and GPU with leaded solder and use a BGA rework station to remove and resolder the BGA packages to the motherboard. With leaded solder, the BGA connections are able to properly expand and contract with fluctuating temperature changes.
The Xclamp/screw washer/12 cent fixes/etc force the motherboard to flex, causing a temporary bridge in the cracked BGA connection allowing it to work temporarily. I hope you tell your customers that their Xbox could die again at any time.
That's like someone getting their throat slashed, and the hospital applies a band-aid to stop the bleeding. And not just any band-aid, the cheap off-brand ones with unrecognizable unlicensed cartoon characters on them.
Well, I was explaining what was happening in terms of emulation. When emulating, it's not outputting straight from a system to a TV/monitor. Instead, it's outputting from a virtual video output and then to your actual video output.Quote:
Originally Posted by OldSchool
Until your hard drive dies...
You can do just about whatever you want, but unlike CD/DVD or cartridge based games, one day your Wii is going to die or you'll lose your backup. If you're OK with a limited service life, then that's fine, but don't kid yourself in terms of longevity. For instance, I want to buy SF II HD Remix. I'm basically buying it to play online. So, for me, I don't really mind if I can play it 20 years from now because the online community will be long gone if the servers are up at all and I'd rather play the real deal in MAME than what I consider a fairly cheesy remake if I'm going to play locally only.
What are you mentioning about screen tearing here? I've played tons of VC games and have seen none, unlike on PC emulators.
You're leaving out an important fact when you're talking about computer emulators, and that's the method that they deal with screen tearing. Vsync is a pretty crappy method. All it does is delay a few frames so that the upper part of the screen doesn't fall behind. This just results in a jumpy framerate.
How are VC releases even broken? The emulation accuracy is very good in them. The biggest problem I've heard is a sound glitch in Yoshi's Story.
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Originally Posted by Robivy64
Fair enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by 17daysolderthannes
My collection is going to outlive me, so I'm not worried.
Which specific part of my in depth post do you not understand?Quote:
Originally Posted by BetaWolf47
Quote it and I'll clarify for you.
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It really depends on which game/system you're talking about. Check out this comparison, it's pretty bad:Quote:
Originally Posted by BetaWolf47
Oh, I'm sorry, let me just get out my magical several thousand dollar microchip reballer and take care of that :huh: . The screw and washer fix is the only economical fix. When I worked for Play N Trade, we charged $60 and when I do it for people I know I only charge $40 (including materials). Most people would be happy to buy another 2-5 years for $40, especially in the case of one of my friends that bought one off of eBay that had a hack-job RROD fix done and 3 lighted like 2 days after he got it (and he couldn't send it back because he already took it apart and tried to fix it himself).Quote:
Originally Posted by Robivy64
Also, the screw and washer fix does not cause the board to flex, at least not the way I do it (I know the shitty penny fix and all that nonsense does, that shit is absolute garbage). The screws simply hold the heat sinks to the chips more firmly while also forcing the chips to stay attached to the board better than the shitty x-clamps do. You put washers on both sides of the board to space it appropriately so it DOESN'T flex. All I can say about it is that once I learned the ins and outs, all of the 360s I've fixed are still working to the best of my knowledge (unless something else happened like 1 light E-74 which is an unrelated problem from another chip due to Microfail's wonderful quality).
The screw and washer fix isn't perfect, far from it in fact, so much so I was hesitant to do it at all at first because I didn't believe it would be effective. Regardless, when done correctly, 360s can last indefinitely, though I still always tell people it's not a perfect fix and probably won't last forever, which is why I always tell people to stay away from 360s because no matter what you do it's going to end up in the junk pile eventually. If you're trying to quote the mooks on 360 forums claiming it always red rings again, it's because they're hacks and don't know what they're doing. Don't blame me for not being able to do what Microsoft should've done in the first place, I do what I can without costing more than a new 360.
I should've known you were just begging for troll bait, what else ever comes out of your mouth? Don't preach to me about material properties and tell me I'm putting bending moments on stuff when I'm not you glorified switchboard operator.
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"This is Robivy, how may I help you?"
Yeah, and I'M the one that regurgitates stuff he read on google :roll:
First of all, Wii VC is basically a computer with composite output, so any output problems a computer might have the Wii will have too. Also, I don't know what you're talking about, V Sync does not make my framerate jumpy. It doesn't delay frames, it just ensures it renders them at the same pace as the monitor refresh. If your frames are being rendered weird, try changing your display settings to 60hz as 70hz WILL cause irregular frame rendering.Quote:
Originally Posted by BetaWolf47
You take the bait every time.
Thanks for taking the time to craft up that post.
http://pushrod.files.wordpress.com/2...c9023211ca.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Robivy64
Hopefully that post will at least be useful to someone with regards to avoiding a 360 or repairing their horrible purchase.