A nes flashcart is $145 while nes repos are at most are about $32. Also you do not get label art work could also be a reason. I personally just like to have a physical cart and the nes flash cart does not work with all mappers.
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A nes flashcart is $145 while nes repos are at most are about $32. Also you do not get label art work could also be a reason. I personally just like to have a physical cart and the nes flash cart does not work with all mappers.
I agree with you sean I like having the physical copies of games so I can hold it and know I have it. I myself bought copies of Alien Soldier, Pulseman, Rockman World, Gleylancer, King Colossus, Battle Mania 2, and many other rare Mega Drive games in Japan about 7 years ago when I first went to Japan and prices were a bit cheaper. But I still buy the repros because I think its amazing someone can create the game from a rom and I can play it without using a converter which I hate doing.
Exactly!:)Quote:
Originally Posted by salsays
But you don't necessarily even save that much money - e.g. original PAL Alien Soldier, ended at $63 - you save $20ish, but gain a "fake" cart, which is fine if you just want it to look pretty on a shelf - but what happens when you want to sell it in the future? It's pretty much worthless, unless you can live with lying about it on evilbay, or sell it within a community. It just seems to me like repros are a false economy ;PQuote:
Originally Posted by salsays
I started it high with best offer set MUCH lower to recoup my start up costs.Quote:
It's a whole mixed bag, maybe I've already a bit outspoken here already But really, i want ask again because it was evaded: electrochip, why exactly were you selling Megaman Wily Wars at $100 at first, and gradually went down? Was it actually that expensive to produce it at first and over time you learned how to keep costs more efficient?
Yeah but how often do you see the game go for that much on ebay, plus the whole issue of having a converter comes into play and sometimes there are people who don't wanna deal with that issues. I myself am one of those people who hates dealing with converters so I buy Japanese systems to play Japanese exclusives at times. Also the issue of reselling later is there too, but there are people who love their gaming and would keep their collections no matter what, and if they have to sell its not like they wouldn't say a game is a repro at the same token I bet someone would pay $30 to have a repro just so they can say look a physical copy of the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smii
Smii I would not say repros are a false economy. Granted I would never sell my reproductions. I have the Nintendo World Championships 1990 and I paid $50 vs up to $2,000 for that game. Also I have Nintendo Camous Challenge 1991 and I paid $75 for that VS what even the person would sell the only copy true copy in the world for. The last repo that I have is Airball and payed $30 witch was not bad since the game was a prototype.
CB or loose Pal Alien Soldiers end for around that price relatively often in Europe. Just need to pay a little attention. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by salsays
Well, if you're willing to buy a Japanese system, then it gives you endless options for importing - buying a repro just gives you the freedom to play that one game. And unless you only want the "rares", then I'm fairly sure that would work out cheaper in the long run.Quote:
the whole issue of having a converter comes into play and sometimes there are people who don't wanna deal with that issues. I myself am one of those people who hates dealing with converters so I buy Japanese systems to play Japanese exclusives at times.
The temptation to lie would always be there.Quote:
Also the issue of reselling later is there too, but there are people who love their gaming and would keep their collections no matter what, and if they have to sell its not like they wouldn't say a game is a repro at the same token I bet someone would pay $30 to have a repro just so they can say look a physical copy of the game.
And no matter how much you think you love gaming and collecting, real life is more important. If something unexpected and really important happened, and you needed money fast, then I'm betting you'd offload your collection without a second thought. I don't believe video games are / should be thought of as a reliable investment, but in that circumstance you might be glad you spent a few more $ on an original rather than a bootleg. (And no, I wouldn't wish that kind of thing on anyone either.)
Tbh, I know little/nothing about nes games. :) It seems like MD flash carts are comparatively cheap though!Quote:
Originally Posted by sean
I pay attention to Alien Soldier auctions but those are UK auctions, which to ship to US still gets a lil on the pricey side and many don't feel like doing that.
Yes you are right buying a Japanese system gives more options but as I said I only do it at times. I personally am not out to buy a Japanese Mega Drive as I am happy with my Genesis and even though I have many of the "RARE" Mega Drive games I only bought them because I wanted to have them in my collection to say look I have them as well. But I will go and buy the repros of those same games if I can because I want to play them and in English. Some may tell me because I know how to read Japanese why not play the game in Japanese and buy a Mega Drive but that is only because I have no need. This is unlike the Super Famicom or PS2 in which I only bought them because I wanted only imports and was only going to play those.
On the subject of lying, yes the temptation is there but I give people the benefit of the doubt and will trust them. Of course someone as myself who knows the games and knows which ones were released in what regions and what not will not get fooled but there is still those who don't and sometimes its bad they get tricked and fooled but its not like they won't love the game and won't care in the end because they get their chance to play it.
Plus it does happen at times that yeah we sell collections because things happen, but that comes up in rare instances and most times I believe that people will hold onto their stuff until they are ready to pass it on.
Electrochip,
Received "Alien Soldier" and I am very impressed with the quality of your work! The cartridge works beautifully and I have it to play for real now. I will want another game soon, "Pulseman" but I need to get some more money together.
Thanks!
-Dragon1952
awesome, great to hear that. These games are meant to be played, not kept on the shelf gathering dust.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragon1952
Try Australia. My copy of Alien Soldier is Aus PAL, not Euro PAL - even including Airmail shipping from the other side of the world, my CIB copy was considerably cheaper than a Euro one. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by salsays
That's okay, but the majority of Pulseman is in English anyway (all the sampled speech for instance), Alien Soldier doesn't need a translation, BKIII doesn't really matter, etc... I guess you're keeping the "rares" as collection pieces (display, not play) which is a bit of a shame really - a simple mod would be much better imo, or (I know you don't like adaptors but) the Mega Key is good in most cases, far easier than a Game Genie. Still, I do accept that it's all down to preference. :)Quote:
I personally am not out to buy a Japanese Mega Drive as I am happy with my Genesis and even though I have many of the "RARE" Mega Drive games I only bought them because I wanted to have them in my collection to say look I have them as well. But I will go and buy the repros of those same games if I can because I want to play them and in English. Some may tell me because I know how to read Japanese why not play the game in Japanese and buy a Mega Drive but that is only because I have no need.
I know this was the initial thought behind repros, and that's cool - like I said somewhere else, I signed up here partly because I wanted a Bratwurst MWIV repro. And I don't regret buying that - it's really well made, with a manual and everything, and I played the game and enjoyed it - but I'm not sure I'd be able to justify the cost now.Quote:
Of course someone as myself who knows the games and knows which ones were released in what regions and what not will not get fooled but there is still those who don't and sometimes its bad they get tricked and fooled but its not like they won't love the game and won't care in the end because they get their chance to play it.
That's fine. Really it was just a "what if?" - which is basically why I seem to be posting so much on this subject recently. Like Bramsworth, I've seen plenty of repros cross the line from their original intent (allowing people to play/have games for a reasonable price) into greedy money making schemes - not necessarily because of the people that make them in the first place, sometimes because they're picked up by business sellers, or former collectors lie about what they have (some people might remember that guy with the Playgen repro of Sonic Eraser?). I just wonder why there's not been any real "backlash" against these things tbh, since I'm seeing the bad stuff more and more - and it annoys me when people refuse to acknowledge the problems behind it.Quote:
Plus it does happen at times that yeah we sell collections because things happen, but that comes up in rare instances and most times I believe that people will hold onto their stuff until they are ready to pass it on.
Thats one thing I never looked at Aussie auctions, but most cases then none it still becomes a matter of how much it will cost and the argument is there would you rather buy it for x amount of dollars rather than y.
You make a valid point that yes the games I own do not require knowledge of Japanese but its still nice to know and follow the stories and what not. But yes to keep the games as collectors pieces rather than to play them is a shame but I love SEGA and love having those collectors pieces in my little collection. I really don't buy newer titles unless its made by SEGA and is a good product but I pride myself that I have been able to stick to just a few systems and build those. To be honest I have Cotton with the cup, I have a sealed Japan Alien Soldier, 2 sealed US copies of Panzer Dragoon Saga, and I'm not saying to show off but to say these are my pride and joys that I looked for and am proud to say look the centerpieces of my collection.
Also when it comes to modding I am knowledgeable in installing chips and my Saturn and Dreamcast which are Japan region are modded and I play burned games and what not on it and I do it for the love of it, I even go as far as creating labels and faux cases for burned cd games and what. And yes I could mod my Genesis but for some reason I can't bring myself to do that and leave it as is in its US format.
I agree with you on the intent that people have with repros now a days is awful. Their intention was and always will be to let those who can't afford the real thing go ahead and play them in a way where they can see a game and case. I also know of the Sonic Eraser repros and yeah I also wonder when the backlash will come but I don't think its gonna happen until a huge situation arises where so many are screwed over that it makes the change happen. But that is my opinion.
I also originally signed up for Bratwursts Alien Soldier repro. Since I am in the hobby anyways, it seemed like a nice place to stay. It was worth it.
These reproductions are very cool conversation pieces as well. "Holy shit, ALIEN SOLDIER FOR GENESIS??" Bratwursts funky art gave it away to one person, but if they saw the electrochip repro, I don't think they would think twice.
I like them because they are cheap and convenient. For Japanese RPG's which were never localized they are especially cool. I am trying to learn the language regardless, but it doesn't happen overnight. Eventually, I will probably pick up the original MegaTen carts, and maybe ditch the repros...but I might hold onto them, just to make people scratch their heads a little bit. ;)
Officially pumped for the arrival of Bare Knuckle 3 in English thanks electrochip