Worst Sequels?

The first that comes to mind is Strider Returns, Sonic 3D Blast, X-men 2: Clone Wars, any Spider-man game after Spiderman vs. the Kingpin 1991.


Strider Returns:
The original Strider is one of the best games ever made IMO. Capcom made this as an arcade and it got ported to the Genesis faithfully. Now take strider and give him bad controls, slow response, no robots. Take away the cool flowing level designs enemies and bosses. Not put him into crap levels where you fight little robots and explosions that are made only to anger and annoy you. Now you have Strider Returns, a game that you could not pay me to beat.

Sonic 3D blast:
The original Sonics are great and evolved with each title. You get to Sonic 3 & Knuckles a masterpiece! Now what do we have? A 3D Sonic game? Now we are talking! Let's get started! Wait, the point of every level of the game is to recue some birds 5 of them put them into a ring, then save 5 more birds put them into a ring then fight a boss with crappy game play and isometric fake 3D that is harder to control and can give you a head ache.
To defend the game, the boss fights are actually good, the bonus levels are fun to me and at least different than the other sonics and graphics look kind of cool. Still, a crappy sequel.

X-Men: Clone Wars. My favorite part about the original X-men game is that you have a limited amount of powers and have to save them and use them wisely. They were very powerful. In this sequel, you have unlimted powers but they are dumbed down and weaker. As you play you will find out that the levels and game play actually have been taken a notch down and it plays like SMS versions of Xmen, just as Sonics, streets of rage, altered beast, and many other games on the SMS that are inferior to their genesis counterparts in looks and gameplay.


Spiderman vs. the Kingpin is a complex game in a good way with and has great control and game play bringing you classic comic enemies to you. Every other spiderman genesis game sucks. The beat'em up spidermans really suck as well. Fighting idiot enemies with cheap moves which would be ok if you had some moves you could use but you don't.



To add a little, Golden Axe 3 is not as good as Golden Axe 2. In GA3 the magic system devolved back to part 1's style which sucks. The dragons now suck. No dwarf. WTF! Enemies have cheap moves. Graphics and sound are not as good. The ability to pick an alternate path on levels does nothing for me.

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Originally Posted by Sega Genesis

To add a little, Golden Axe 3 is not as good as Golden Axe 2. In GA3 the magic system devolved back to part 1's style which sucks. The dragons now suck. No dwarf. WTF! Enemies have cheap moves. Graphics and sound are not as good. The ability to pick an alternate path on levels does nothing for me.

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Oh, come on. There are a trillion of threads discussing this. The last one isn't even a week old:

http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthr...476#post253476

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Originally Posted by Christuserloeser

They're all great and the original is, was, and always will be the original, and for its time (it was released in 1989!) it's a truly amazing port with almost arcade perfect graphics and sound. Too bad that it doesn't really control too well (for which the arcade original is to blame, not the port).

Golden Axe 2 is nice sequel that, while keeping the original gameplay intact, does offer new levels, new enemies and new music. You can definitely tell that the designers tried to stay true to the original with this one.

Golden Axe 3 was made by the same team that designed Golden Axe 2 but it plays totally different in comparison to the first two games! It is BY FAR the best in the series (on Mega Drive / Genesis).

If you are looking for a game to play with a friend that's close to Streets of Rage / Bare Knuckle quality-wise, than this should be your next choice.

A few of the backgrounds do look extremely bad though.

However, the sprites are on par with Bare Knuckle 2 & 3 and the music is just absolutely fantastic!



I'd recommend Sarah and Cronos (the panther), as the game is a good bit easier and a lot more fun with those.

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I am not quite sure how they managed to squeeze this game into 8 Mbit.

I always felt Streets of Rage and Golden Axe got better with every new game.

Sparkster certainly sucks dirty donkey dong compared to the first. Earthworm Jim 2 also takes part in this assery, turning the game into a weird mess of mini-games. Another is Toejam and Earl 2, which completely abandons the appeal of the first title for a generic platformer (gameplay, I mean). And lastly, Sonic Adventure 2 took everything appealing about the Sonic franchise away and turned it all into some emo 12 year old's fan fiction.

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Originally Posted by Sega Genesis

Strider Returns:
The original Strider is one of the best games ever made IMO. Capcom made this as an arcade and it got ported to the Genesis faithfully. Now take strider and give him bad controls, slow response, no robots. Take away the cool flowing level designs enemies and bosses. Not put him into crap levels where you fight little robots and explosions that are made only to anger and annoy you. Now you have Strider Returns, a game that you could not pay me to beat.

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I agree

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Sonic 3D blast:
The original Sonics are great and evolved with each title. You get to Sonic 3 & Knuckles a masterpiece! Now what do we have? A 3D Sonic game? Now we are talking! Let's get started! Wait, the point of every level of the game is to recue some birds 5 of them put them into a ring, then save 5 more birds put them into a ring then fight a boss with crappy game play and isometric fake 3D that is harder to control and can give you a head ache.
To defend the game, the boss fights are actually good, the bonus levels are fun to me and at least different than the other sonics and graphics look kind of cool. Still, a crappy sequel.

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I disagree. This game is overbashed simply because it stars Sonic the Hedgehog. It's actually a decent game, it just gets repetitive after a while. The Saturn version has great music and excellent special stages. The only thing the game really is missing is a save feature.

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X-Men: Clone Wars. My favorite part about the original X-men game is that you have a limited amount of powers and have to save them and use them wisely. They were very powerful. In this sequel, you have unlimted powers but they are dumbed down and weaker. As you play you will find out that the levels and game play actually have been taken a notch down and it plays like SMS versions of Xmen, just as Sonics, streets of rage, altered beast, and many other games on the SMS that are inferior to their genesis counterparts in looks and gameplay.

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This I'll disagree with as well. The first X-Men game sucked, the controls were just bad. X-Men 2 played so much better, and it was so much easier to figure out what to do. And now I don't need to hit the RESET button to beat the game.

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Spiderman vs. the Kingpin is a complex game in a good way with and has great control and game play bringing you classic comic enemies to you. Every other spiderman genesis game sucks. The beat'em up spidermans really suck as well. Fighting idiot enemies with cheap moves which would be ok if you had some moves you could use but you don't.

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What you fail to realize is that Sega only made two Spiderman games: Spiderman on Genesis and Adventures of Spiderman Vs. The Kingpin on Sega CD. Every other Spiderman game on Genesis was made by that shitty sub-label of Acclaim called Flying Edge. Acclaim could not make a good game to save their life, especially during the 8-bit and 16-bit days. Even during the Saturn era they were notorious for shit such as Street Fighter: The Movie the game.[/QUOTE]

I hate the following sequels:
Golden Axe III (is utter tosh)
Sonic 3 (is dismal when compared to the awesomeness of Sonic 2)

Home Alone 2. The original was a fun and original little game, and the sequel turned into an unbearable run of the mill platformer.

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Originally Posted by Mr Smith

Sonic 3 (is dismal when compared to the awesomeness of Sonic 2)

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Well the GAIII issue was already mentioned, but now you bring up THAT which has come into contention even more often. :p

Is that Sonic 3 alone, or including 3&K? (I personally prefer it best either way, but 3&K is the deal breaker for many)



As to the OP, I'd say Yoshi's Story was crap compared to Yoshi's Island (perhaps not a direct sequel, but related and with similar game mechanics). Story is a kind of mediocre game that looks nice, plays OK, is annoyingly cute (not in a tasteful or amusing way), but in the context of a highly promoted 1st party Nintendo game and de-facto successor to one of the best SNES games (and one of the best 2D platformers period IMO), it's crap.


Super Pitfall may be a candidate as well. (its predecessors were simple, but fairly revolutionary for the platform genre, especially Pitfall II expanding into a full platform adventure with dynamic music on the 2600 in 1984 -and several other platforms)

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Originally Posted by Baloo

I disagree. This game is overbashed simply because it stars Sonic the Hedgehog. It's actually a decent game, it just gets repetitive after a while. The Saturn version has great music and excellent special stages. The only thing the game really is missing is a save feature.

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Totally agree: I rather like the game, though it does get a bit repetitive as it goes on. (I like the genesis special stage in spite of -or perhaps because of- it's extreme lack of difficulty, looks neat too -the PC/Saturn special stage has been commented on as rather difficult in general iirc -perhaps not as annoying as Chaotix)

It's a decent game, but not a characteristic Sonic game (neither is spinball), and honestly, graphically speaking it was a much better *response* to DKC than Vectorman as some tag that game. (too bad it came a bit late to really actually counter the hype of DKC -released around the time DKC3 and Vectorman 2 were, and is a different game in general, of course, though so is Vectorman)

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What you fail to realize is that Sega only made two Spiderman games: Spiderman on Genesis and Adventures of Spiderman Vs. The Kingpin on Sega CD. Every other Spiderman game on Genesis was made by that shitty sub-label of Acclaim called Flying Edge. Acclaim could not make a good game to save their life, especially during the 8-bit and 16-bit days. Even during the Saturn era they were notorious for shit such as Street Fighter: The Movie the game.

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I liked some of acclaims games: granted they didn't develop a fair amount of the games they published. And also note that they passed off a lot of their worst stuff in the NES years to the LJN label. ;)

Strider Returns & Dragon's Revenge they both just suck.

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Originally Posted by Sega Genesis

X-Men: Clone Wars. My favorite part about the original X-men game is that you have a limited amount of powers and have to save them and use them wisely. They were very powerful. In this sequel, you have unlimted powers but they are dumbed down and weaker. As you play you will find out that the levels and game play actually have been taken a notch down and it plays like SMS versions of Xmen, just as Sonics, streets of rage, altered beast, and many other games on the SMS that are inferior to their genesis counterparts in looks and gameplay.

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You're high. No wonder you haven't got any rep.

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Originally Posted by Sega Genesis

X-men 2: Clone Wars

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Wtf, are you daft?? If I could give you negative rep for that, I would.

Oh, agree with everything else. More or less.

As much as I love the PS series PS III is nowhere as good as it's predecessors.

PS III is good it just pales in comparison to the other PS games.

Double Dragon 3

It doesn't matter what system you play it on it still sucks.

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Originally Posted by Kogen

Sparkster certainly sucks dirty donkey dong compared to the first.

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Yes, Sparkster Genesis sucks terribly. Get the SNES version instead and imagine what could have been.