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Nothing odd about it, just the floor contracting as the temperature drops. Houses make those kinds of sounds due to temperature changes and wind all the time. Nothing supernatural about it at all. The heating ducts in houses are particularly noisy with temperature changes. You can hear them ticking and pinging during and after the heating/cooling is done and the ac cuts off. Only IDIOTS or little kids would consider noises like this as something "spooky". :p
First of all I said it was weird, not spooky, so chill out Chilly. Second, I know about the kinds of noises my house makes and the role temperature plays in that. Third, I don't have a heating/cooling system. These are sounds that can be made by anyone walking over specific places in the floor, this one happens to be right outside the doorway to my room. I've never heard them pop on their own before, not at day and not at night, with the exception of these odd recurrences.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chilly Willy
Usually between 2 and 4 am. But I never hear the noise, unless I'm in my room and the door is shut.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiarcs
DO NOT watch this at night by yourself
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L7lJ_GMLLY
Especially if you haven't seen that show that specifically debunked this one, and showed everybody how it was made.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowHawk
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Originally Posted by WarmSignal
thats a stupid debunk, the camera in the jap girl video is shakey and handheld not on a tripod
breaking news: there are no ghosts, no aliens, no gods.
now someone close this thread.
Are you trying to tell me the Ghostbusters aren't real? I don't believe you!Quote:
Originally Posted by Christuserloeser
Well, there MIGHT be aliens, but the rest is slim odds if you're being nice. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Christuserloeser
I have been thinking about alien life lately. It either doesn't exist at all or at best reaches only primitive stages before being killed off. Just think of how many things have to be exactly identical to our planet with its history and its moon (!) and its exact place in our solar system to allow for us to exist.
It takes incredible luck to survive a host of disasters: supernovas, passing through the galactic arms (which perturbs the oort cloud causing comets and asteroids to come in-system), said comets and asteroids (so close, dinosaurs, but no kewpie doll for you!), natural disasters that threaten your species early before you "tame" nature, war within your own species, being smart enough to become the apex species of the world (sorry Neanderthals, but no kewpie for you either!), and being smart enough to develop technology to leave your world before one of the aforementioned disasters kills you off. It's no wonder that the galaxy seems devoid of intelligent life. While it's fairly certain there's LIFE elsewhere, it's almost certainly not intelligent life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Christuserloeser
...Yet there's so much out there (in the world and universe) that our arrogant species doesn't know of, or understand. Hey, yesterday MSNBC announced the filming of a sea serpent:
Loch Ness monster-like beast filmed in Alaska
Cryptozoologists think mysterious marine animal in video is a Cadborosaurus
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43801173...filmed-alaska/
Very interesting piece of info, I have always found cryptoozology to be very revealing in terms of possibilities.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ecco
As far as aliens go. I've always said, you have to be pretty ignorant to think that we humans are the only form of intelligent life in the entire universe. But that's just my opinion. And we all know what opinions are like..... LOL
The original picture from the Mars Rover:
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...DP2432R1M1.JPG
Close Encounters: Proof Of Alien Contact
http://www.snagfilms.com/films/title...alien_contact/
Vatican: It's OK to believe in aliens
The chief astronomer says those beliefs don't contradict faith in God
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24598508
Could Extraterrestrial Intelligence Sway Religious Beliefs?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41259894
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Aliens vs. religion?
One impact that extraterrestrials might have on society is in the sector of religion, said theologian Ted Peters at the Pacific Lutheran Theological Seminary in Berkeley, Calif. For instance, aliens might lead religions to question whether a second genesis of life elsewhere belongs within the biblical understanding of creation. Might Jesus Christ have appeared more than once in the universe?
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"It's been argued for a couple of centuries now whether one incarnation of God as Jesus Christ for the entirety of creation is sufficient, with some thinking that God would do so multiple times as appropriate for the capacity of any individual species to comprehend," Peters told SPACE.com.
Russians add new twist to old UFO myth
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5686713/
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Explorers believe they have discovered blocks of an extraterrestrial technical device, the article stated, adding that they assumed it was the one that had crashed in 1908.
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I am fully confident and I can make an official statement that we were saved by some forces of a superior civilization, he explained. They exploded this enormous meteorite that headed toward us with enormous speed.
Photographs of the fragments may become available in the near future, as well as the results of laboratory testing.
Aliens are covered:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ecco
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLt_nghDG2c
So where is the actual proof?
There is no actual cold hard proof. Unless you believe the roswell autopsy video or interview video or metals not on this planet being removed from abductees. How do you explain that? If you do your research and look at all the evidence, there is a lot more evidence suggesting they do exist than they don't. I think it's obvious we are being visited, if you look into it deeply you will probably feel the same. Unless your one of those scientific people who needs in your face proof to believe it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olls
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cornholio857
Not believing aliens exist, and not believing they visit us are two different things. I don't believe they visit us, because the autopsy video has been debunked already. The various "strange" metals removed from people's bodies also appeared to be very "earthlike". In conclusion, nothing out of the ordinary has been shown yet that didn't come out of the mouths of UFO enthousiasts, who aren't exactly the most reliable source to begin with.Quote:
Originally Posted by segaddict
I've also always wondered why aliens always visit America. The amount of sightings and abductions there is far greater than in any other country in the world. Obvious media influence, or do you guys feel so important that you think it is obvious for aliens to visit you?
Take for example a country like Hungary. I've been there a lot, and I've never seen or heard of any alien sightings. In fact, the people there (especially on the country-side, lots of crops, etc. yet no crop circles? hmm) have no idea about aliens at all. Coincidence? Or do aliens purposely avoid countries that don't know about them?
^I shall respond later, when I have more time. I'll post videos showing that:Quote:
Originally Posted by Olls
--Crop circles are a global phenomenon, and AFAIK the majority occur in England, not the US. Also Mexico seems to have the most sightings of FLEETS of UFO's, in the dozens or hundreds at one time...
--Some implants that have been removed are indeed unlike anything found on Earth, using metals that are rare or nonexistant here, plus with biological attributes that man-made objects could never have -- for example, some implants are found to contain nerve-like cells which connect organically with that person's nerve cells...
Also, remember that skeptics will have mundane explanations for everything that they don't believe in, automatically. So just bc skeptics "debunk" everything doesn't make it true... They will ALWAYS claim ALL implants are nothing but slivers or pieces of glass from a broken bottle, ignoring things like the extraterrestrial metals they are made from, or their strange biological qualities...
Crop circles are a big hoax, so I won't even get into that until I see some actual evidence or anything that suggests that they were NOT made by college kids with too much free time on their hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ecco
What I was hinting at is that crop circles seem to rarely appear in non-western countries, where people do not have the time to make this crap.
But speaking of implants, where are the scientific sources that prove they are extra-terrestrial metals, instead of an earthlike material? Anyone can claim some material is extra-terrestrial and E.T. nuts are the first ones to jump onto that opportunity...
How about some non-biased sources, like a verified research lab or anything of the sort.
The people who study crop circles have found that the way they were made would be very hard if not impossible for a person to make. Of course some of them are hoaxes, but that doesn't mean they all are. The metals being taken out of people are studied by knowledgeable doctors and what not and found to be extremely rare metal or not on this planet at all. Again I say do your research. Watch some documentaries, you would be surprised.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olls
Sources please. What is it about certain crop circles that makes them impossible for a human to make with a 2 by 4 and some string? What types of metal? What knowledgeable doctors? Your arguments aren't worth anything if you cannot back them up.Quote:
Originally Posted by segaddict
I've done my research and this is my conclusion. You think I'd be responding in this thread without having an interest in the subject? This might sound fucking stupid, but I've been into this while you were still crapping your diaper, assuming that you're 22.
^Hmm surprised to hear you say that you ARE interested in the subject. I assumed most visitors of this thread, did so just to be amused by the open-minded lunatics and cavemen here, like me. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Olls
I'll eventually find some videos and post them, which show such things that you asked about.
I know what you mean when you say you want unbiased sources, but unfortunately, most articles and videos are clearly produced from either believers or skeptics, and it goes predictably from there. The articles that I post links to from MSNBC.com are relatively unbiased, as it's a general global news website, which isn't focused on any subject in particular, but does tend to have a small handful of articles on the possibility of extraterrestrial life and UFO's, under its Science and Space categories.
So I will find such vids and post 'em, but they'll obviously be ones that were made by folks who were either believers, or very open-minded about the topic. It's just inevitable. lol However there ARE vids and programs which DO show doctors extracting implants with impossible attributes. Some are made of pure gold. Some are made of elements very rare on Earth, or NOT found on Earth, except inside meteors that land here. Skeptics will just assume it's all elaborate hoaxes, even though these implants are some of the most tangible "evidence" of alien life manipulating humans' bodies... People will assume the extreme implants are fake or non-existent, and that the doctors and the entire shows are fake, despite being shown on reputable TV stations (History Channel, Discovery Channel, Bio Channel, etc.)...
As for crop-circles there is certainly evidence of tampering by methods which are not understood well by humans; The "real" crop circles have each stalk of wheat (etc.) blasted by a focused shot of heat and radiation, which bends the stalk at a certain specific, uniform angle, with that bend being swollen or blasted open, but with the crop staying alive, undamaged. Such things do NOT happen by people invading a farm field at night, with ropes and plywood to stomp down the crops, which clearly breaks the stalks and damages the crops. lol That is the biggest sign of "real" circles AFAIK. Also some circles are said to contain sky-high radiation, and some circles are said to contain these strange bent stalks of wheat, which start growing much FASTER than normal crops that were not part of the circle. Crops which are harvested from crop circles, are said to be repulsive to cattle and livestock which wd normally eat it mindlessly. Also livestock is said to be AFRAID of farm fields that received crop circles, even days later.
Will search and post vids...
Your asking all these questions, but if you did your research like your saying, you would know the answers. I'm not motivated enough to go look for sources and videos answering all your doubts, believe what you want. If you want sources go google. I know what i've read and seen and it's pretty obvious all these things (metals, UFOs, crop circles, abduction stories) cannot all be hoaxes and I feel sorry for the narrow minded people who think they all are. There is just waaaayy too much evidence to ignore and for it to be all false. What's your excuse for the Betty and Barny Hill incident? How would an ordinary person know about the zeta reticuli star system and be able to draw out a map of it? If you look at ALL the evidence, it's pretty easy to see we are being visited IMO. Hard heads will be hard heads.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olls
And just because you have more years than me doesn't necessarily mean you know better.
The Betty and Barney Hill story has been debunked several times over. Sadly, people will do anything for an ounce of fame. If you're bringing this up you should at least have looked up the other side of the story.
I've watched these videos with an open mind, not while wanting them to be true. You're not motivated enough to look for sources; then why are you here trying to convince me?
There are still zero sources posted by anyone here that is convinced of little grey men running around in crop fields. I figured I might have missed some vital piece of evidence here, but it appears I haven't.
*clears throat*Quote:
Originally Posted by Olls
As far the general accusation of "fame" being the motivator for elaborate hoaxes:
All we can do is look at the most "qualified" people who have reported seeing UFOs or aliens. BUZZ ALDRIN and MANY ASTRONAUTS who stepped foot on the moon, have come out of the woodwork as old men, telling stories of UFO sightings. Heck many YouTube videos are recordings of official NASA footage that apparently shows UFOs. Also there is no shortage of government officials who report about experiences with aliens and UFOs; just look at Roswell and the original press reports, followed by DECADES of REVISED govt. cover-ups, apparently. What was the last statement -- that it was a weather balloon with mannequin dummies aboard? What???
And the Betty and Barney Hill incident was the very 1st report of alien / UFO experience in recent times AFAIK. I guess I don't feel like looking things up at the moment, but info has to be out there in abundance on those guys. Didn't one of them get burned badly and suffered for the rest of her life bc of it?
Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betty_a...Hill_abductionQuote:
an American couple who claimed to have been abducted by extraterrestrials on September 1920, 1961.
The couple's story, called the Hill Abduction, and occasionally the Zeta Reticuli Incident, was that they had been kidnapped for a short time by a UFO. Theirs was the first widely-publicized claim of alien abduction, adapted into the best-selling 1966 book The Interrupted Journey and the 1975 television movie The UFO Incident.
How reliable are eyewitness reports? Does being famous give more weight to their testimony?
Here is one of many videos debunking the Hill story, which btw, is also just an eyewitness report and shouldn't even need debunking. I'm posting it anyway, because Carl Sagan actually knows what he's talking about:
Also, I should add that astronauts are obviously not trained at recognizing flyer saucers, so we can safely assume their word and knowledge on the subject holds as much merit as yours or mine.
I have seen and read about several videos that purportedly show flying saucers in outer space; several of them coming from NASA. All of them debunked. If they were actual spaceships, don't you think NASA would be on it immediately? Worst case scenario: they wouldn't have released these videos at all.
I know about the Hill story, so posting just to describe every event isn't necessary. I'm looking for hard evidence.
Also, to stay current, what do you guys think about this?
Actually I have to go for the night; I'll watch Oll's video later.
I linked the Wiki page above for Betty and Barney Hill. At the moment I can't find anything about medical problems, but I swear I've seen shows that mention recurring health problems and burns for one of the people, but since I can't find anything ATM, maybe I'm mixing up that part with another case...?
Anyways the Betty and Barney Hill case was the first widely publicized experience in recent times, as Wiki mentions above. It's actually a legendary case for the open-minded or believers. lol If personal account is not believed in, there goes virtually all accounts of UFOs & aliens. lol
Sure, but how hard is it to make up an elaborate story? There are plenty of reasons to do so. A lot less reasons to want to debunk them. What would people gain from disproving a story?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ecco
Any illnesses these people have, they could've had long before the event took place. This is not irrefutable proof.
I have not seen one reputable source on crop circles that claims they are anything more than done by people. Ditto for implants - any time they aren't done by some notorious nut-job, they always come back with reasonable EARTHLY results. They hold crop circle making contests, for crying out loud, many of which were claimed to be done by aliens by the nut-jobs until the crop circle makers came forward with video tapes of themselves making the crop circles. Talk about egg on your face. :D
Me neither. I'm still waiting and open to everything you guys can come with up on these subjects.
Just because there is a debunk for something doesn't mean its not true. There is always a debunk for everything and there is always people who buy into it. There's nothing you believe in without actual physical in your face proof? God? The moon landing? OJ Simpson? lol. Nobody has actual real proof of these things or if someone does there is always someone else who will find a way to "debunk" or not believe what the other person is calling proof. Sure there is a video of the moon landing, but so is there of UFOs, so how do we know if either is true? The real answer is we don't know for sure, but when there is enough evidence towards something, you can usually come to the conclusion it's true, you don't always need dead on actual proof at least for most open minded and intelligent people. Can't you draw your own conclusions and think for yourself instead of just assuming things are not real because it hasn't happened to you or because there isn't something stupidly obvious proving it or because someone made a debunk video? That seems kind of ignorant, doesn't it? Do you really need an alien to land on your front lawn and wave in order to believe? There are always people out there who refuse to believe certain things even though there is loads of evidence. Your asking for proof well what would kind of proof would you need? Isn't there already enough? The ultimate proof and only way to really know if something is authentic is to experience it yourself first hand. Almost everything can be faked so how can we believe anything then?
Ok enough ranting for me. I'm not really trying to convince anyone. Everyone has their own opinion and will believe what they want, rightfully so. Just trying to prove a point. I'm done with the back and forth. You know what they say about arguing over the internet....
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But I guess it's too late... I'm probably already guilty of that huh?
I joke. I joke. ;)
Well, so far all you've done is rant. You haven't actually proven anything, even after I posted a video explaining why the Hill case and the star map is bollocks. Still waiting for evidence of anal probes and crop circles as you've promised.
As for arguing? That's what this topic (and forums in general) is for, or did you expect to only get people on the thread that buy into this and nod along with you?
If you're telling me that aliens exist, I'd like to know how you got to that conclusion. Is that so strange?
How can I prove it? All I can do is give links to more evidence. I don't see the point in that. You will still believe what you choose to. Like I said there's only one real way to make someone a believer and that is to experience it for themselves and unfortunately I don't have a way to communicate with any ET's, but If I ever do I will be sure to send them your way. So until then...
Hopefully you have a first hand encounter someday.
If you can't prove it to me, how did you become convinced?
Because I choose to believe in all the evidence I see supporting that we are being visited. Crop circles, Abductions, Sightings, Implants. I'm not saying I believe every single one of them. Obviously some are faked. I'm not gonna go into detail on every single aspect. If you have read up on everything thoroughly and still don't believe then fine, what else can I do? Your entitled to your opinion.