Batman and Robin owns

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I just can't state it enough.

I couldn't sleep and played it with the Model I stereo volume up. now I'm tired

This game is terrific. The music really sets the crazy dark mood, some level never end. awesome. extraordinary. reminds me of the movie, the Dark Knight. Your are a batman.

my favorite is boss is the magician. The music totally maddens you.

The hardest part for me is killing the electrified paper stuff. Again the musical score there makes you scream.

at the very very top with Alien Soldier.

This game reminds me of Gunstar Heroes.

We already have a thread for this game in the Latest Review forum.

It's a good game, but the difficulty brings it down for me a lot. Takes away a lot of the fun when you have to do the same thing over and over. I also don't like that both A and C act as "attack" buttons instead of "throw" and "punch". That makes it a bit more awkward than it needs to be.

I give it a 7/10 overall.

By Magician, do you mean the Mad Hatter?

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Originally Posted by Why-Disciple

It's a good game, but the difficulty brings it down for me a lot. Takes away a lot of the fun when you have to do the same thing over and over. I also don't like that both A and C act as "attack" buttons instead of "throw" and "punch". That makes it a bit more awkward than it needs to be.

I give it a 7/10 overall.

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100% agree. Although I'd probably give it a 6/10 if not for the awesome soundtrack which is one of the best I have ever heard for any game. It's just too damn hard, and some levels are ridiculously long.

I look forward to playing it for the first time :)

Adventures of Batman and Robin is fun and awesome up until level 2-2. That level is too long, boring and hard, so my adventure ends there.

In my opinion it's the most impressive game of the 16 bit era.I cant think of many games that are this great on all fronts.It's one of my most played Genesis games.

for the naysayers here is some tips:

only use A and B buttons. You don't need any other

For the difficulty.

2-2 is a piece of cake when played right.

You have to kill the boss in 2-1 with a maxed out Green Weapon. He is super easy with that weapon. Then you cruise through 2-2 easy. Just keep your finger pressed on FIRE button.

If you find 2-2 hard, wait till you tell in the level 3 lol :) you will get value for your time. Level 4 is relatively easy.

joshvox.. the levels are not too long. they are just right for their purpose. This is not just a game, it is art that fleshes you out. . You are supposed to be drained out, just like Batman himself fighting all those villains.:p

EDIT: the boss in 2-2 is epic as well and not so easy. I mean after going through this huge ship, you still have to beat that chopter with again an exclusive awesome soundtrack. Chopter is easy if you are green at max, otherwise it becomes hard. Green Weapon is mostly the best in all situations. except in the first 1-1 and 1-2

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Originally Posted by Mordan

joshvox.. the levels are not too long. they are just right for their purpose. This is not just a game, it is art that fleshes you out. . You are supposed to be drained out, just like Batman himself fighting all those villains.:p

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Don't get me wrong, I love the game. The reason I would give it a lower score than some other games is simply because of the difficulty and no other reason. Some of the levels are too long, and in addition to the difficulty it makes this game nearly impossible for me. Can't imagine anyone actually beating this game without cheating--although I'm sure some hardcore gamers have.

From what little I remember from playing this previously, it does seem to drag at points. My brother and I were doing okay but he basically said "no more" at what was most likely 2-2. The music is definitely neat but I'm not sure it's appropriate for a Batman game, maybe for Batman Beyond.
:p

If Batman Returns for SNES had co-op (although I guess it'd have to be double Batmans with the lack of Robin) then that would be my favorite Batman brawler. So I definitely give this game points for including co-op, I don't think there was a good multiplayer Batman game before this one (but if I'm forgetting one let me know).

Why do people praise this game ? The music is great yes but Batman is not supposed to be a shooter. Throwing batarangs over and over is not what Batman does, he punches and kicks. Thats why I cant rate this highly.

I don't mind batarangs being relegated to sub-stages like in Batman Retuns(snes), but I don't like having the entire game focused around projectile attacks.

If you judged superhero games based on how conservative they are with what they actually do in the comics, you'd probably have a hard time enjoying any of them. Batman & Robin has both melee and batarang combat, just like the Sunsoft NES game.

I don't find the game to be all that difficult, you get plenty of opportunities to restock your health unlike Gunstar Heroes. Sometimes you even get health during boss fights. What really brings the game down from being truly magnificent is the pacing, most of the levels are too drawn out and become repetitive.

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Originally Posted by GeckoYamori

Batman & Robin has both melee and batarang combat, just like the Sunsoft NES game.

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Ugh, Batman: Revenge of the Joker was terrible. I wouldn't be surprised of it was intended to be a different game and had the Batman licence slapped on it at the last minute. As I remember, in the original NES Batman game punching was your main attack, and projectiles were your alternates.

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Originally Posted by Bastardcat

I don't mind batarangs being relegated to sub-stages like in Batman Retuns(snes), but I don't like having the entire game focused around projectile attacks.

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Yes thats why I dont like the game that much because it plays like a shooter and you combine that with the difficulty and it's not a great game IMO. It's not the worst 16 bit Batman game but it's not the best either.

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Originally Posted by Bastardcat

Ugh, Batman: Revenge of the Joker was terrible. I wouldn't be surprised of it was intended to be a different game and had the Batman licence slapped on it at the last minute. As I remember, in the original NES Batman game punching was your main attack, and projectiles were your alternates.

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I know that Revenge of the Joker is a straight up shooting game. I was not refering to that one. I was talking about the first, much more well known movie tie-in game. But as they said in Game Sack, just because shooting doesn't make much sense from a canonical perspective doesn't make the games themselves bad if the mechanics are handled well. A fun game is a fun game. You could probably point out tons upon tons of other inconsistancies in most Batman (or any other comic) games that were made for the sake of gameplay.

Batman & Robin has a solid set of melee combat moves and they usually pack more of a punch than just spamming batarangs, so you should probably just try using those attacks more.

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Originally Posted by GeckoYamori

If you judged superhero games based on how conservative they are with what they actually do in the comics, you'd probably have a hard time enjoying any of them. Batman & Robin has both melee and batarang combat, just like the Sunsoft NES game.

I don't find the game to be all that difficult, you get plenty of opportunities to restock your health unlike Gunstar Heroes. Sometimes you even get health during boss fights. What really brings the game down from being truly magnificent is the pacing, most of the levels are too drawn out and become repetitive.

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It's more an issue with endurance than raw difficulty. The game takes some patience to really enjoy . . . on top of at least decent run n' gun skills. (albeit I'm not really good at platformers or run n' gun games in general)

I like the Sega CD game more overall, but the 2 aren't really comparable at all anyway. (in that case there is a pure difficulty problem, not an issue with certain parts being drawn out too long -I still like it more than the driving sections of Returns on the MCD, both in gameplay and visual quality) Having an easier difficulty option would have been nice.

ive still not got off the first fuckin level on this game....

ive kinda given up on it......

in fact -

WHERES MA GAME GENIEEEEE GONE?!?!

This is my favorite Batman game along with the original Batman for the NES. Incredible music and special effects, non stop shooting, 2 player action... i just love it!
Its right at the top of my favorite Genesis games, the awesome music and nonstop action put me on a trance that few other games do, and playing it with someone else makes the experience hard to beat IMHO. Everything about the games just clicks with me, even what other people call weak points, like the dificulty, to me are assets.

The music is awful why do people like it so much! It's some of the most monotone, muffled and dull sounding music I've ever heard on the megadrive!

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Originally Posted by matteus

The music is awful why do people like it so much! It's some of the most monotone, muffled and dull sounding music I've ever heard on the megadrive!

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Yes I am, I knew this might cause a shocker... :P

There should have been a Doc Savage game for the Genesis. That would have been sick. Like Final Fight and Pitfall combined. That would be a great comic/pulp conversion.

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Originally Posted by matteus

The music is awful why do people like it so much! It's some of the most monotone, muffled and dull sounding music I've ever heard on the megadrive!

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It's grungy and coarse . . . I wouldn't say it's bad, but it's not the type of music I like. (it's not like Batman Returns or -more so- Batman Forever, which just have poor music in general . . . CD soundtracks notwithstanding ;))

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Originally Posted by kool kitty89

It's grungy and coarse . . . I wouldn't say it's bad, but it's not the type of music I like. (it's not like Batman Returns or -more so- Batman Forever, which just have poor music in general . . . CD soundtracks notwithstanding ;))

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I'm glad I'm not alone in some respects :)

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Originally Posted by matteus

The music is awful why do people like it so much! It's some of the most monotone, muffled and dull sounding music I've ever heard on the megadrive!

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You're not alone in this opinion. I can't stand the music for this game. When I play it, I turn it down. It's both the style and instruments. It grates on my nerves.

This game is a beast. I ABSOLUTELY love it, but it is one of the harder run and guns i've had a chance to get into. I can't make it past the level with the mushrooms. I'd sa this game is twice as difficult than any Contra game.

Nice tech demo, but too repetitive and drawn out for me to enjoy. The levels just never seem to end and identical looking hordes of enemies just keep coming at you.
Not fun.

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Originally Posted by matteus

The music is awful why do people like it so much! It's some of the most monotone, muffled and dull sounding music I've ever heard on the megadrive!

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The title tack goes on for 9 minutes before looping and that is an amazing thing and pretty much unheard of back then to go that long before looping.

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Originally Posted by tomaitheous

You're not alone in this opinion. I can't stand the music for this game. When I play it, I turn it down. It's both the style and instruments. It grates on my nerves.

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This.
The box should have a free painkiller offer inside.

lol lots of ambivalent emotions about the game..

sure if you don't enjoy demo/techno/industrial music in video games, you will never appreciate the aesthetics of this game.

IMO demo/techno/industrial is not music, sorry. It's noise, painful uninspired noise.

IMO this kicks ass, ESPECIALLY if you listen it properly (that is, with stereo headphones). :rock:

They're not really comparable as they were made by two different companies, but I liked the SNES one better. It was more dynamic, and sounded more like the source material.

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Originally Posted by Bastardcat

They're not really comparable as they were made by two different companies, but I liked the SNES one better. It was more dynamic, and sounded more like the source material.

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The Sega CD game was made by Clockwork Tortoise too, but also not really comparable at all due to totally different gameplay. (I personally like it much more than either of the platformers, in spite of the difficulty)

A bit odd that they didn't use any of the soundtrack from the TV show, especially for the cutscenes -especially the awesome Shirley Walker scores. (I doubt it was a licensing issue)

I love Batman and Robin. It's just that the difficulty kills me.

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Originally Posted by Wesker

IMO this kicks ass, ESPECIALLY if you listen it properly (that is, with stereo headphones). :rock:

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Honestly, that's a mess, maybe a bad recording too (it's hard to tell). There's some tracks that are at least somewhat tolerable or maybe even enjoyable, but . . . not that.

Now, to clear my head from that, so GOOD music from a Batman game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTTNjtd0tvM

(though honestly, most of Batman Return's tracks also sound better than B&R on the Genesis . . . )

It's the best one you can get from YouTube, honestly. I checked them all myself. Best is listening it straight from the game itself.

And it's the best track in the game IMO, followed by this one.