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Playing NBA Jam the other day with former President of the United States Bill Clinton (Mr. Smith 2012), I started to think of old secrets that were super cool way back. There were a lot of rumours back then, like Sexalities in Mortal Kombat and stuff like that, but some of the actual secrets really are something.
Of course, the MK blood code and Reptile spring to mind for me.
It was said that genesis could do mode 7
LMAO!!!!! Wooaaaaah ha ha ha. Say no more i think you just shut down the entire thread with that secret. Could you imagine?.... Well i guess you didnt really have to when SCD/MCD came out.Quote:
Originally Posted by villahed94
I thought I was on top of the world when i found the level select cheat for Sonic (hold a - up down left right start at the title screen after sonic came out). I would do that just to listen to the Starlight Zone music
I remember hearing about how there was some blue book with codes in it, with codes for sonic 2, like level select and stuff, of course in like 1996 or so I would find out those codes due to the internet!
Of course before the internet I remember being in stores and lookin thru the video game magazine lookin at codes lol.
This is the best :
I have that book, it's from 1997. Blockbuster published it, it has codes for Genesis, SNES, Playstation, and Saturn games.Quote:
Originally Posted by EddieJ1984
I remember the day in 97-98 when I accidently came across the level select screen in Jurassic Park. It was seemed like the coolest thing ever and probably wasn't the coolest thing to keep the thing on for 3 days.
No, it can't, but there are some approximations of it that it can do, but it's limited. And, of course, "mode 7" is not really right to use outside the context of the SNES (many video devices have a mode 7 that's nothing to do with that, it's just the 7th video mode ;)). So "mode-7 like" or scaling/rotation/warping/texture mapping are more applicable. (albeit in a very limited sense)Quote:
Originally Posted by villahed94
Mode 7 can be a flar rotating/scaled tile and is sometimes used for that (Super Mario World, Castlevania 4, etc), but also often used with perspective warping (with some CPU overhead) in the manner seen in F-Zero.
The Sega CD OTOH can do more than "mode 7" in that it wasn't limited to one plane and could do a lot more than that -scale many objects and do warping effects and multiple warping layers or aid in texture mapping polygons. (similar to the warped perspective surface)
The SVP chip should have been able to pull off a lot of that as well, but was more general purpose. (hence the use for plotting 3D and rendering polygons)
They probably could have put the Sega CD graphics ASIC on-cart too for that matter.
Rings of Power - The secret titty intro
NBA Jam TE - The stud-muffin code
15s9pu03- The superbike code in Road Rash III. I still remember it to this day from seeing it scroll by on the Sega Channel tips while the game was loading.
That bike is just ridiculous. Hitting a jump and flying over every competitor and landing on top of a cop car a mile away is a glorious thing.
Sonic 3D's level select code: put down the controller, head over to your TV, gently backhand the cartridge with the power on.
Bitchslapped that game into submission :cool:
Some of my favorites:
-Ghouls 'n Ghosts in game code to switch to the Japanese version on a US/EU machine
-Hidden game in Lotus II
-Hidden sound test in Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine (requires region lock bypass to play cart in Japanese mode)
-Various "hidden" option modes
I know that genesis doesn´t do that but EGM said it in 1990
Playing as boxing kangaroo in street of rage 3 was great!
Oh, and playing atari version of pitfall in Pitfall The Mayan Adventure for genesis was cool too!
There's plenty of technical threads about Mode 7 and blast processing. The only hardware secret I think applies is hot swapping.
I got my Genesis and Sonic 1 & 2 included, right at the time all the game mags were publishing the codes for those 2 games, so I always knew all the codes for level select, debug mode, sound test, Super Sonic etc. I don't know if a lot of Sonic fans grew up w/ all those codes, but it was big part of my Genesis experience at that time. :cool:
They also said this: http://sega-16.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7864Quote:
Originally Posted by villahed94
And were convinced the Genesis had hardware scaling up to Super Thunder Blade at least. :p
EGMs editors seemed to have no better a grasp on technical details than Sam Pettus does unfortunately. (unfortunate for both cases as the articles could have been a lot more interesting with accurate techincal understanding -even if simplified for general readers)
Wow, that's real? :lawl: Awesome!Quote:
Originally Posted by TmEE
EGM also said that Genesis could display 256,000 colours on screen! COMPLETELY FALSE, because even the 32x could only go to 32768 colours on screen.
I remember that rumor. MK3 had "Nudalities". I dunno how that one even got started......lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Nunzio
This is one of my faves. The Thriller BGM being played in Moonwalker. I read that only very few copies had this.
Even though the 32x didn't usually display more than 256 colors indexed from that 15-bit RGB (like SNES could and did do, though usually used 16-color palettes other than mode 7 and some super FX games). Plus you didn't necessarily use all 256 colors on-screen at once, though you had the genesis colors too.Quote:
Originally Posted by villahed94
I think Virtua Racing might run in highcolor mode, otherwise I think it's only used for splash screens. (not sure about FMV -some forms of Cinepak might actually cater better to highcolor)
Super NES/Super Famicom hate by the Japanese is great in my bookQuote:
Originally Posted by TmEE
I know a real good secret and the funny part is I discovered it totally by accident. You know the levels that are open when you play Sonic 3 locked on to S&K. They are already there on the Sonic 3 cart. But locked out from regular game play.
arn't they just listed and the data isn't stored on the ROM ?
What i always thought was a sweet cheat was the Flashback walk through walls bug.
I'll quote.
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Flashback: The Quest for Identity Walk Through Walls
While playing, walk up to any wall. Turn away from the wall,
then hold A and press away from the wall.
(i.e., if the wall is on your right, face left, hold A and press Left.)
The instant Conrad starts to run, release A and face toward the wall.
He should be able to walk through it. Note that this appears to be a bug,
as if you walk through a wall with nothing behind it you'll die or crash the game.
And another cool secret was in Mortal Kombat II, you had to enable the cheat screen and then turn on a flag called "ooh nasty"
then in the armory you could perform a special finisher with Raiden, which would then change your opponent into a small mini version
of some guy from the dev team, was called a Fergality. (guy was called Ferguson or something)
Wow, that sounds pretty coolQuote:
Originally Posted by NeoVamp
The same guy would also fly by in the Pit in their MK1 port,
but only if you enabled some flags in the hidden cheat section.
In my opinion the Mode 7 capabilities could be done in a genesis, for example the rotating enemies in Mega Turrican, the first aircraft boss at the end of first level in Vectorman or the stunning effects in games such as Burning Force and Panorama Cotton.
The true secret in Genesis is in its more capable hardware
Dogs don't know it's not bacon.
None of that is doing what SNES mode 7 does. ;) And a lot of those same (or similar) effects could be done as well on the TG-16.Quote:
Originally Posted by altbrian
Some is just animation, other stuff is line (or maybe column scroll), and there's a few cases of software scaling and polygons rendering, but not usually rotation or texture mapping. There's some 1D line scaling too, like in the 3D Blast special stages. (like axelay on the SNES)
Nothing (not even the Sega CD) could match the color capabilities of mode 7 though: 256 colors on the mode 7 layer. (probably the only 256 color mode used in-game other than a couple super FX games)
The Sega CD could do a lot more than mode 7 due to the flexibility, but was fundamentally limited due to the Genesis VDP (color, VRAM, and DMA bandwidth -the latter 2 limit framerate and/or screen size heavily)
Sort of related, when I was a kid I heard a rumour that Sega Genesis graphics were too powerful and were bad for your eyes. So we had a SNES growing up because it was safer.
Must have been the blast processing scrambling our brains.