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Once again you fall straight into the trap, So you spent extra money, and time, on something that you are arguing is the worst console ever? I never said I was an expert in anything, you made the quote. I notice you didn't answer my questions though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crystalpepsifan
So is the Dreamcast the worst console ever or not?, get off the pot or shit. I don't own a Dreamcast, but it's not me who is getting all upset about it is it?
Once again, describing yourself as lack witted is correct, but I doubt you can jog. But you can dig, keep digging, be my guest :p
I'm simply arguing againt whatever you're for, your lack of knowledge notwithstanding. I'm not upset at all, quite the contrary. I'm having an excellent time. I've never even said Dreamcast was the worst console ever, just that it's lunatic uber-fanboy twats that post utter tripe like you, that make me hate it. The post from you that I originally quoted in this thread illustrates that perfectly. But yah, you've quite the intellect. But anyways, fuck off and go back to bitching about Packis and eastern Europeans, or whatever it is you do while you wait for your dole check to come.
Yeah not upset much, it shows. Once again, no constructive conversation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crystalpepsifan
I'm at work right now, passing my time, what's your excuse for the racist outburst? Or are you going to dive that one as well? Lack of knowledge seems to be your department, is that your job? You are rather good at it.
I'm not a fanboy of anything, I couldn't care less what clothes you wear, what music you listen to, or what games you play or don't. But one thing is for certain, you have issues my friend. My opinion counts for as much as yours, the only difference is I'm not getting all bitchy about your opinion. More to the point, I back mine with reasoning, so you own a Dreamcast, do you want a gold star?
The point of this thread is to discuss a game console and the merits/shortcomings of said console, which is what I have done. If you don't like it that's fine, I don't care.
I'm so sorry if my rant against the game industry hurt your emotions, but don't come in all mouth and no trousers, there was no need for your snidey comment in the first place, we have already established your petulant little tantrums have no merit.
So for fear of hijacking the thread,
Dreamcast worst console ever? Continue please.....
I think it takes "quite the intellect" to have a discussion without resorting to insults, something I've not seen in this thread. Please keep the discussion civil, or you will have to take your intellects elsewhere.
Come on, man. I know you can do better. If not, then just walk away from the discussion.
I'm making the point that there many good games on the PS2 and XBox and quite a few new original games on the PS2, far more than on the DC; Take out Shenmue, JSR and say Seaman and there's very little original titles on the DC (not that's a bad thing).
So its ok for SEGA to do that, just not others ?. What so original about SEGA GT, Sonic Adv, NFL 2k, NBA 2k, Skies of Arcadia, House of the Dead II, Virtual Fighter 3, Space Channel 5 and so on. Seems to me you got some childish beef with the likes of SONY because they were more popularQuote:
I suppose my biggest gripe is franchises, make one good game, carbon copy and repeat, even if it offers nothing new, it will sell.
@gamevet Same can be said about Windows PC games at the time, then again i'd played a CRAP ton of computer games that has a library as "big" as the hyped-up station 2, it was nothing more than a cheap DVD Player and it sold like hot cakes because of that NOTHING MORE! The launch games were shit compared to previous consoles and another reason WHY people bought the darn was because of Body Theft Harvest 3 and the fact it was a wankster simulator that countless of other games have sorta done in the past! It's bought NOTHING "New" to the table, just only the fact that it had (for it's time) next generation graphics and retarded sunset beams that gets in your way half the times when doing your missions sometimes.
So again, the Playstation 2 was nothing but a Madden, Grand Theft Auto, Kingdom Hearts, Square Enix machine while every other good genre gets shoved away UNTIL the Xbox 360 & Playstation 3 generation came along and kinda sorta changed that!
Sorry while I'm not its biggest fans . To dismiss out of hand the likes of ICO, SOTC, Guitar Hero, Devil May Cry, God Of War, Okami, Gradius V, Virtual Fighter Evo, Yakuza II, Frequency is just sheer nonsense in my bookQuote:
It's bought NOTHING "New" to the table
ICO & Shadow of the Colossus are the similarly the same sorta and Devil May Cry is nothing but a mixure of a fast paced Onimusha, Dino Crisis 2, and Sword of the Berserk: Gut's Rage (or just Beserk) on the Sega Dreamcast EVEN the intro part of the first AND third DMC game is a carbon copy of the Bar from The Bouncer (one the first Squaresoft launch titles on the system which i'm assuming half of the population of those PS2 hype bandwagoners never played!) Also Okami is like Wolf Link meets The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker meets Devil May Cry type of game.
Virtual Fighter 4 EVO was forgettable to the casual fighting game players that only cared about Tekken "Black Sheep" 4 at the time.
Yakuza 1 & 2 were pretty quote on quote (not really) "Orginal" i guess...
Listen i'm not trying to ruin your little Sony Parade here but just the blind nostalgic idioticy i keep seeing on the internet just keeps grating my eyes everytime! I get it, it was everyone's first little consolized "gaming pc" (If you wanna call it that i suppose) and it gave you a garbage dump full of shovelware with a few gold, diamonds and jewelry hidden well beneath the pile by accident but it doesn't mean that the system has it definite flaws like barebone online capabilities, worthless investment on the HDD accessory that universally no one in their life bought!, having to yet again buy a dumb multitap instead of doing the right thing like EVERY OTHER company at the time wisely did and should be awarded for was to add freakin 4 PORTS! instead of having to empty or rip people's money off! We could've had a great Nintendo 64 follow up if they we're smart enough and not have greed in they're flithy minds all the time!
But i digress, you know you can go ahead and be this Sony PS2 fanboy as much as the next poster but my opinions and actual thoughts on the console will stay this way for the rest of me!
I don't think it's an awful system by any means but it's the sheer blindness and it's fans of it is what drives me bonkers with some idiotic people on the web.
While I don't mind a difference of an opinion, I do really don't enjoy reading posts sugared with blind fanboyism. Just because you don't like the PS2's selection of "popular" titles doesn't mean there wasn't a lot of new and unique ideas released on the system. The post above yours being an example of that. Choosing to be selectively ignorant of those games isn't going to win you any brownie points with people here.
That is the most ignorant post I've read in a long time. All of the consoles of that generation could do lens flare and several of Sega's own games on the Dreamcast used it.
I had a DVD player before I ever bought a PS2. I waited until the Gran Turismo 3 bundle came out, before buying the console. The reason why people bought the console, was because of how much they liked the original PlayStation. And guess what? They could play all of their titles from the previous console on their shiny new PS2. Tell me how God of War 2, Devil May Cry, Disgaea, Ring of Red, Guitar Hero, or Gungrave Overdose brought nothing new to gaming?
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So again, the Playstation 2 was nothing but a Madden, Grand Theft Auto, Kingdom Hearts, Square Enix machine while every other good genre gets shoved away UNTIL the Xbox 360 & Playstation 3 generation came along and kinda sorta changed that!
Again, you sound like a clueless fool. Here's just a small sample of what each publisher brought to the PS2.
Sony Computer Entertainment
Gran Turismo 3 and 4
Tourists Trophy
Ice
Shadow of the Colossus
Wild Arms 3
PaRappa The Rapper 2
Sly 3: Honor Among Thieves
God of War 2
Sega
Gungrave Overdose
Sega Classics Collection
Space Channel 5 SE
Virtua Fighter 4: Evolution
REZ
The King of Route 66
Phantasy Star Universe
Super Monkeyball Deluxe
Capcom
Resident Evil: Code Veronica
Resident Evil 4
Mega Man X collection
Devil May Cry 2
Square-Enix
Front Mission 4
Star Ocean: Till the End of Time
Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy XI Online
Namco
Klonoa 2
We [heart] Katamari
Tekken 4
Ridge Racer 5
Ace Combat 4: Shattered Skies
Xenosaga
Taiko Drum Master
Interplay
Baldurs Gate: Dark Alliance
The Bard's Tale
Fallout Brotherhood of Steel
MDK2
Konami
Gradius V
Contra: Shattered Soldier
Air Force Delta Storm
Ring of Red
Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistance
Neo Contra
Ubisift
Beyond Good and Evil
Super Bust a Move 2
Cold Fear
Rayman 3
Ghost Recon
Crave
Pinball Hall of Fame: The Williams Collection
Pinball Hall of Fame: The Gottlieb Collection
Tokyo Extreme Racer Zero
UFC Throwdown
Activision
Guitar Hero
Guitar Hero 2
Guitar Hero Rocks the 80s'
Call of Duty 3
And the rest that I don't feel like listing with their publisher
Silpheed: The Lost Planet
R-Type Final
Mobile Light Force 2
Star Trek: Shattered Universe
Growlancer: Generations
Lethal Skies
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
Half-Life
Raiden III
Culdcept
Fire Pro Wrestling Returns
Wipeout Fusion
Taito Legends 2
Burnout 3
Dragon's Lair 2: Time Warp
SNK Arcade Classics: Volume 1
Disaster Report
Gauntlet Seven Sorrows
Def Jam Fight for NY
I'm not a fan of SONY or the PS2 (Xbox was the system for me at that time). But I do give credit for well made and produced games.Quote:
Listen i'm not trying to ruin your little Sony Parade here but just the blind nostalgic idioticy
Spoken like a true fanboy . So when a game or system gets popular it must be bashed . Using that logic , means the Mega Drive was a rubbish system and Sonic 1,2,3 rubbish games and Forget the Mega Drive, the Snes and their casual loving gamers, the PC-Eng was the system for the true die-hard gamer lol. And sorry VF 4 Evo wasn't at all forgettable, but 'for me' the most amazing fighting game ever made and its Quest mode was just unparalleled at the time.Quote:
Virtual Fighter 4 EVO was forgettable to the casual fighting game players that only cared about Tekken "Black Sheep" 4 at the time.
I don't like the console itself, but at least I'm not foolish enough to outright dismiss and (childishly) mock it's games and the system itself all based on your evident fanboyism/hipster tendencies. The games are popular for a reason, and no, it's not any of your silly ones.
Nice list, but I honestly think you're just pissing in the wind.