Since Nintendo made the Super Gameboy, to play your Gameboy games on the SNES, why didn't Sega follow suit and make a similar thing for the Game Gear?
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Since Nintendo made the Super Gameboy, to play your Gameboy games on the SNES, why didn't Sega follow suit and make a similar thing for the Game Gear?
RTFM... or something like that ;)
I think it's been made perfectly clear that it is highly inprobable that we will have an adapter for the SEGA Genesis that would be able to play SEGA Game Gear games. But what about developing an adapter that would allow a SEGA Master System to play these games.
I am asking this question because I have heard murmers that there now exists an after market Japanese console that can play Game Gear games but that it costs an exhorbitant amount of money. Is this true?
the system that plays gamegear games was actually custom made and not for sale, it had a custom made shell that looked similar to a sega master system shell.Quote:
Originally Posted by SEGA.GENESIS1989
Consolizing your GG is your best bet. SMS runs into the same problem as Genesis for GG games; doesn't have the master palette support for it (sms = 64, Gen = 512, GG = 4096 colors). I have two GG's. I wouldn't mind consolizing one myself as well (have it play SMS games too). It could be the "SMS 2+" ;OQuote:
Originally Posted by SEGA.GENESIS1989
So to consolize, you take apart a Game Gear, rearrange the hardware, install a video to tv port and go from there?Quote:
Originally Posted by tomaitheous
Again, is it too hard to Search
http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthr...enesis+Adapter
Just get a flash cart and play GG games on a GBA.
You'll have better luck modding your Game Gear to output TV a/v with stereo.
Thanks tomaitheous! But let me ask you this: Is it possible to create an adapter for the SEGA Master System to play Game Gear games? I am sure that if such a device was created, there would be alot more attention given to some of the Game gear's library than there is now! So in your opinion, is it possible?Quote:
Originally Posted by tomaitheous
You can buy Master Gear and play your SMS games on your GG
Like previous threads mention there is a different resolution and number of pallet colors between the Game Gear and the Master System. The Game Gear was built off SMS tech and expanded slightly, making the conversion of games from the GG to SMS more complicated than the other way around.Quote:
Originally Posted by SEGA.GENESIS1989
The debate as to which has superior tech (GG or SMS) is a question that almost no one can agree on unanimously.
GG games on SMS? If you hacked each game (or rom) to use the SMS palette, then yeah (Chris Covell did this). But otherwise no. But the GG itself can play SMS games with a cart converter. So if you consolized your GG, you should be able in theory play SMS games on it too. I know it works on the LCD itself, but I don't know what the GG RGB (requires an encoder circuit) output looks like in SMS mode. I would assume fine, but best to make sure. And if so, you could hack SMS games to use the bigger GG palette (for some less contrast-y color choices).Quote:
Originally Posted by SEGA.GENESIS1989
If you load up a Game Gear rom on your Genesis, sometimes you might get a small screen or two from the beginning of the game with false colors. I haven't found one that is actually playable yet. A proper Game Gear to Genesis adapter would work similar as the Super GameBoy for SNES does... have a Game Gear built in to the cart. But it doesn't end there, oh no! Since the Game Gear has FAR more colors than the Genesis and the TurboGrafx (it destroys these weak-ass systems) it'd have to have it's own video out.
I really don't get that the Game Gear had so many colors. All of the games looked far worse than Genesis games. Most didn't look any better than SMS games at all. They wasted all of those colors 99% of the time, I think. What a waste of a system which also has the world's shittiest screen. It deserved to flop and I'm glad it did.
I don't think that anyone who is aware of the difference between the two favors the Game Gear. The expanded master palette is pretty much only a partial compensation for losing so much resolution. In the end, you have the same concentration of color, only the option of subtler shading for Game Gear... which is pretty much lost when displayed on the small blurry screen.Quote:
Originally Posted by xelement5x
Try playing the same game using either hardware/emulation on a TV. Whether it was based on GG or SMS hardware, the SMS version always looks and feels better to play.
You only got 32 colors to show, and if you had like close shades of some red and blue then you'd only got red and blue and no other colors... but I guess that makes GG perfect for modern trendy games which are just gret and brown haha. The LCD eats up the color differences anyway...Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Redifer
The Genesis can play Game Gear music just fine, although in mono. I doubt there's anyone among us who hasn't listened to GG Shinobi's music on their Genesis.
Who ever said it flopped?Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Redifer
Its sales figures.
I don't know what sales figures you've been reading, but from the ones I've checked, it sold rather well. Flopping and failing to gain a proper successor are two different fates. The Game Gear received the latter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Redifer
Part of me assumes that Sega wanted the Nomad to be the successor.Quote:
Originally Posted by chessage
A rather unportable successor.
It took me a long time to find love for the Game Gear. I had one for over 10 years and wouldn't touch it because of the same reasons you've stated. But after playing Crystal Warriors, the system has grown on me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Redifer
If you're looking for those colors, I think a good way to go would be with: (I'm sure you've probably tried at least one of these already)
Defenders of Oasis (This game was meant for the Game Gear. There were parts when it would make the Game Gear screen look like a DS screen or even High Def like an iTouch. It's that amazing).
Crystal Warriors (it's really bright and beautiful; not to mention a really fun game).
Disney's Aladdin (a different game than all other ones, it's actually a Prince of Persia clone, and a great one at that. You get to see some 3Dish parallax scrolling from the beginning of the game. The best colors are those found in the palace as well as in the cutscenes; which are animated. I was pleasantly surprised with this one).
I don't know what this has to do with the Game Gear having a sequel. The thing was hard to find at stores. You hardly see used games for sale. I guess it depends on your definition of "flop". It was more successful (if you can call it that) than the Turbo Express and maybe the Lynx, but over all it failed to impress at retail.Quote:
Originally Posted by chessage
Speaking of failing to impress, I really don't like the Game Gear as a system. It's a piece of shit. Even if it had a perfect screen, it'd be a piece of shit. The resolution is too low meaning the games are very cropped. That is not acceptable. I am a huge Sega fan and the Game Gear is one system that I feel had no right to exist the way it was. It's designers should feel bad.
Take this with a grain of salt because I generally dislike all portable gaming. It's very uncomfortable and I can't play it on my TV.
If there's one thing that disappoints me more than N64 haters, is people who don't like handhelds. You're missing out on lots of great games Redifier... :( Thankfully most are on Game Boy which had console adapters, but there's good stuff on Lynx, Game Gear, Wonderswan, Neo Geo Pocket (Color) and the more recent portables too. I guess you're too old to gain an appreciation for handhelds, I think kids in general are far more resilient than adults, especially with their eyes. I could play the old brick GB for a long time and never had a problem when I was much younger, the screen never bothered me. To this day I still can, but I have many Game Boys so I don't exactly have to.
Personally, I find the Game Gear to be a pretty fun console. It's no Game Boy but what software it does have is pretty good. However, what I can't stand is SMS on the Game Gear, that's beyond my tolerance level. How can anyone seriously play a game on such a squished image? Stuff like R-Type and Shanghai are unplayable on the GG...
It'd be nice if somebody with too much money made a Genesis Gear adapter, but it's seriously a waste of time. A better option is that Game Gear console that one guy made, with a custom shell and everything. That machine is a thing of beauty!
Handhelds are physically uncomfortable for me. It has nothing to do with my eyes but my body posture. My neck begins to hurt as I hunt for a way to play and be comfortable at the same time. People like to give me shit about this for some reason. "Ha ha you're an asshole because you feel pain when you play portables I hate you!" It's not that bad, but I don't really understand people's reasoning for making fun of me in that regard. "Ha ha he has no arms he can't enjoy videogames it's his fault what an idiot!" I also have no need for videogames to be transportable so I'm often wondering why I'm playing on such a tiny device with a microscopic screen. I agree that many portable games are good, if a bit handicapped due to the limitations of the hardware. Yeah, and the N64 pretty much sucks, too. It and the Jaguar are the only consoles that have ever had graphics that make me feel like vomiting. You can have your Ocarina and Goldeneye, though, as that's pretty much what most N64 fans talk about most.
I wasn't really condemning you or anything, just expressing my disappointment. It's understandable if you can't play a handheld comfortably...Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Redifer
http://micro-64.com/features/n64hatred.shtmlQuote:
Yeah, and the N64 pretty much sucks, too. It and the Jaguar are the only consoles that have ever had graphics that make me feel like vomiting. You can have your Ocarina and Goldeneye, though, as that's pretty much what most N64 fans talk about most.
At least GG can be hooked up to a TV with some work, but tiny patch in the middle of the screen and not many games that don't have superior SMS version make me play SMS instead.
Is that article supposed to force me to like the N64 or something? Is the N64 wrongfully disliked by anyone who dislikes it? Does this mean that everyone should unconditionally like it? It's not a console I enjoyed outside of a few games. Get over it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guntz
Why does "no game ever released needs all the buttons and D-Pad/stick" make it acceptable?Quote:
Originally Posted by That stupid site
If anything it makes the controller look even WORSE.
This mode results in horrible cramps in the right thumb, due to the position of the A & B buttons in relation to the right hand.Quote:
FPS games are hard to play, I hate using the C-Buttons
This complaint usually stems from people accustomed to modern FPS control layouts, which involve two analog sticks. Virtually every first person shooter on N64 offers more than one button configuration, including one which maps movement to the D-Pad and aiming to the control stick. Even the earliest FPS release, Turok: Dinosaur Hunter, offers such a configuration, called "Left-Hand Mode" in-game.
ISn't there a dude who sells a Consolized Game gear?
This is true, but the execution backfired and it turned into a novelty item. You can't sell a successful portable console without a built-in battery/battery compartment or cartridges designed with portability in mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flygon
Consoles with successors tend to be viewed more favorably. You'd probably hate the Game Gear a lot less if it had yielded at least an improved revision or console adapter, much like the Game Boy did. Heck, even the Lynx was revised.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Redifer
... In Colorado...Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Redifer
Debatable. One shop I go to has around 20 to 50 titles, while another I go to has zero. That's why there's Ebay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Redifer
... And every non-Nintendo handheld until the PSP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Redifer
**The Game Boy lets out a cowardly scream and seaks out a convenient place to hide.**Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Redifer
It was designed by one guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Redifer
Noted. This is where the TV-out mod becomes useful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Redifer
^This would fit well in a Seinfeld fanfic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Redifer
I usually Lean against a wall or sit in a recliner while using a handheld.
lol
You didn't read an inch of that article...Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Redifer
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That covers pretty much all of the most common N64 gripes. If you have reached this paragraph and still strongly dislike the N64 for whatever reason, then what you should do is find another console to play and ignore the N64. It's not a system for everyone. Expecting to find a game made just for you, in a genre the console lacks in, is not only a waste of time but it's also very foolish.
Hopefully this feature has stomped out at least a few ignorant and widespread complaints, or has convinced you to give the N64 a second look. If this article could be summed up in a nutshell, it'd be that rumors, exaggerations and unfair comparisons shouldn't get in the way of one's enjoyment with a particular console.
Wow, that REALLY makes your argument all the more convincing... :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamahl
I didn't know something appearance determined whether it good or not...Quote:
Why does "no game ever released needs all the buttons and D-Pad/stick" make it acceptable?
If anything it makes the controller look even WORSE.
Must be you, but at least it's better than moving with the stick and aiming with the C-buttons.Quote:
This mode results in horrible cramps in the right thumb, due to the position of the A & B buttons in relation to the right hand.
The opposite for me. It was abundant in stores where I am from, they were semi-common to see at recess in Jr. High School when I was there (I had mine!), and even now they are generally in stock at local pawn shops were a dozen or two dozen various games (Sonics, Shinobis, Mickey Mouses, Eccos, Columns, sports games, etc.).Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Redifer
I guess Sega was more popular here in Canada? I mean, the SMS actually made a dent in the market here.
Isn't there eyes on your head to read with? We're only 3 pages into this thread and your question was answered before you posted it. Use your reading and comprehension skills to answer your own question.Quote:
Originally Posted by evilevoix
There's a reason no console since has copied N64's three-pronged controller. There's just no reason for it. They should have just put the analog stick and d-pad on the same side.
Here too. I remember it as being popular with older gamers especially. A friend of my dad who had a Game Gear commented that "you need young eyes to even see" the Game Boy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Breetai
People probably wouldn't have as high an opinion of the GB today if they were still restricted to the original system and its shitty screen.
And your point is...? The N64 controller was a product of it's particular era.Quote:
Originally Posted by j_factor
Out of curiosity how well did the Gameboy sell when the Game Gear was still being sold by Sega? From what I remember Gameboy seemed to die down around 1994ish and didn't really get it's second wind until Pokemon came out around 1998ish. Actually I remember more kids in my Elementary School had Game Gears that they brought to school and would play during recess.
I loved my game gear and even used it as a portable TV,
Did the Sega-branded GG suitcase sell 1:1 with the console? I've never seen such a carrying case so common in the used market as that one.