Saturn Vs. Playstation 1 (psx)

I'm always hearing "for the percentage of good games to bad , the Saturn wins"

I say I care more about the amount than the percentage. If you have 10 titles with 50% quality rate, you get 5 good titles. If you have 100 titles with 10% quality rate, you get 10 good titles. In this case, I much rather prefer to have the latter.

Anyway, let me say that I do enjoy both systems and have both hooked up and ready to play. Just that I've given more of my playtime and my preference to the Playstation. So that's the way I voted.

I could never live without both.
But we all know the Playstation (including import libraries) has sooo many more games of various genres compared to Saturn.
Plus the huge selection of peripherals for Playstation outclasses Saturn by far.
The GunCon and associated games beat out the Saturn light gun games.
The Sony Analog Twin Stick controller and Assault are far more enjoyable than Saturn Twin Sticks and Virtua On.
The number and variety of classic/retro compilations on Playstation can't be touched by Saturn.
The variety of unique and quirky games on Playstation is unrivaled by almost any system.
Heck even Tatio's Power Shovel has it's own twin stick controllers manufactured by Hori.
The number of joysticks and variety is much broader for Playstation. Though the Saturn dual arcade stick set up and the other official arcade stick by Sega JPN are certainly better than most any stock stick for Playstation except maybe the optical ASCii Stick Zero 3

Anyhow there's some thoughts off the top of my head.
Playstation just has so many more interesting and enjoyable games than Saturn.
But I could never give up my Saturn and games like the Panzer Dragoon series, Three Dirty Dwarves, D&D Collection, Guardian Heroes, Radiant Silvergun, Dark Savior, Shining the Holy Ark, Mizubaku Adventure, Power Drift, Vatlva, Daytona USA Circuit Edition, and others...

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Originally Posted by kool kitty89

Are there any rail shooters on the PSX that beat Panzer Dragoon or Zwei? (I know there's a few really notable ones but I can't remember some of the titles... There's Omega Boost of course and Zeit Geist came to mind but that one's not that great iirc)

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Gamera 2000 is pretty much a complete Panzer Dragoon Zwei rip-off/clone.
It is almost pretty good ...but the cinematics and acting (all with American actors) are downright painful.
I just couldn't get into it though because all I could think is how much I'd rather be playing Panzer Dragoon Zwei. Comparing these two games is also notable because it is an instance where the graphic qualities of the Saturn game are much better than the similarly styled Playstation game.

I'm going to say Saturn, but its mostly due to much better controllers... Sony made the worst controller imaginable *avoids bricks*

Both machines have a ton of awesome games on them, and for some reason Saturn games seem to be a bit nicer to me, and I have played much more PSX games than Saturn ones.

Micro Maniacs and Circuit Breakers were both related to the Micro Machines games, Micro Maniacs was Codemasters' attempt to move away from the license I think (which was costing them money) as well as allowing them to add new gameplay elements (like jumping etc), Circuit Breakers was made by the original Mega Drive Micro Machines developers after they moved away from Codemasters.

V-Rally and TOCA are weird ones in that they were extremely popular in Europe (both with the public and critics) but don't seem to have been that well liked in the US at all, I think they were actually the biggest selling racing games in Britain in 1997 by quite some margin. Personally I always kinda' prefered V-Rally to Colin Mcrae only because its more arcadey and less technical, I never got so much into TOCA, but some of my friends played it religiously and I remember some of the magazines of the time rating it very highly

Zero Divide is quite a solid game, but time of release would play one of the bigger factors to its "notable" status I think as at the time there wasn't really enough 3D fighters on PS1 for it to be generic (this was before Tobal 1, Tekken 2, or Soul Blade were released) magazines scored it highly, stating that it was the only PS1 game with a fighting system similar to Virtua Fighter

Speed Freaks was mainly known for being one of the first good 4-player Mario Kart style racing games on PS1 (though it only pre-dated the better Crash Team Racing by maybe a month) whilst CTR is better I think Speed Freaks is more its own game, because its more technical and rally-like in its control system, whilst CTR just feels like an amagalmation of MK64 and DKR.

Its possible that feelings for Wild 9 are mixed, but I feel "unifomly trashed" is unfair, I have most definitely seen at least 4 good reviews for the game from the time.

Apocalypse really is just mindless shooting and jumping, with some iffy voice clips from Bruce Willis every now and then, but its a brainless, fun game

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Originally Posted by TmEE

I'm going to say Saturn, but its mostly due to much better controllers... Sony made the worst controller imaginable *avoids bricks*

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I only have a problems with the analogue controllers, the normal controller feels alright for me to use.

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Originally Posted by Thenewguy

I only have a problems with the analogue controllers, the normal controller feels alright for me to use.

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More or less same for me actually

Playstation gets my vote because of the games. Symphony of the Night, Final Fantasy VII, Soulblade, Tekken Series, Vandal Hearts, Lunar completes, among others. Yes there are japanese versions of these, but I don't read japanese and I sure didn't know that back in the 90s when I was gaming, nor would I pay extra at the time with my teenage income level to import when the playstation games were easily available, not to mention all my friends had it so sharing games and multiplayer were easier.

I own a saturn now and not a playstation. However for the games available to me at the time (not to mention the intro cost) playstation gets my vote by far. Saturn is underrated, but it's obvious why it lost. You didn't just google a search for imports in the mid 90s and have several sites deliver good games, and why should you have to? They didn't bring the right games over to support their system and they lost, it's that simple.

saturn is my favorite especially with the japanese library,but id say the ps1 was the best in terms of its library,it had games for everyone.

Resident Evil series on the PS1 FTW
One of the few games I have played in my life that isn't 2D or a beat em up.

Sega Saturn all the way.

I still appreciate the PlayStation as the second option of that generation, but the system I have always liked and collected is the Sega Saturn. There's a significant difference between both systems, and that's a fantastic Sega.

The PS1 had a large library where many of the games were crap. The Saturn had a small library where many of the games were crap... Really if it comes down to owning one I'd go with the PS1 because even if only about 10% of the library is of interest to me, that's a lot more games than 10% of the Saturn's library.

As long as you have the Japanese import possibility at hand, the Sega Saturn +1000 games library shouldn't be considered small per se, and even if it's still smaller than the PlayStation library and which is also more accessible to the overall public. At least it's way bigger than the Nintendo 64 one.

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Originally Posted by Thenewguy

Micro Maniacs and Circuit Breakers were both related to the Micro Machines games, Micro Maniacs was Codemasters' attempt to move away from the license I think (which was costing them money) as well as allowing them to add new gameplay elements (like jumping etc), Circuit Breakers was made by the original Mega Drive Micro Machines developers after they moved away from Codemasters.

V-Rally and TOCA are weird ones in that they were extremely popular in Europe (both with the public and critics) but don't seem to have been that well liked in the US at all, I think they were actually the biggest selling racing games in Britain in 1997 by quite some margin. Personally I always kinda' prefered V-Rally to Colin Mcrae only because its more arcadey and less technical, I never got so much into TOCA, but some of my friends played it religiously and I remember some of the magazines of the time rating it very highly

Zero Divide is quite a solid game, but time of release would play one of the bigger factors to its "notable" status I think as at the time there wasn't really enough 3D fighters on PS1 for it to be generic (this was before Tobal 1, Tekken 2, or Soul Blade were released) magazines scored it highly, stating that it was the only PS1 game with a fighting system similar to Virtua Fighter

Speed Freaks was mainly known for being one of the first good 4-player Mario Kart style racing games on PS1 (though it only pre-dated the better Crash Team Racing by maybe a month) whilst CTR is better I think Speed Freaks is more its own game, because its more technical and rally-like in its control system, whilst CTR just feels like an amagalmation of MK64 and DKR.

Its possible that feelings for Wild 9 are mixed, but I feel "unifomly trashed" is unfair, I have most definitely seen at least 4 good reviews for the game from the time.

Apocalypse really is just mindless shooting and jumping, with some iffy voice clips from Bruce Willis every now and then, but its a brainless, fun game

I only have a problems with the analogue controllers, the normal controller feels alright for me to use.

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On Apocalypse "mindless shooting" just is not specific enough. Virtually every shooter can be described this way. The same goes for the racers, there must be something specific about the games other than who made them or whether or not the controls are "arcade".

I added Wild 9 because the arm gadget gimmick is unique, so even if it were a pure contra clone that would make it different in gameplay and therefore notable.

Speed Freaks being 4-player is merit enough, being different from CTR is even better.

Zero Divide qualifies by its armor system and ring hanging mechanic and is now added.

The notable game lists are completely independent of sales, popularity and ratings. The point being gamers and journalists frequently use the "more good games" argument to support a console bias. If that were true, then said games can certainly have their gameplay described as unique or especially polished.

Sega Rally is a "good" racer because of the unique and highly polished physics and powerslide mechanics, not to mention the graphics and sound. Virtua Fighter games are easily described as unique from every other fighter out there and from each other.

Obviously this can be abused as every game is unique somehow, which is why the list is limited to games that have been noted for specific gameplay related reasons by more than one person.

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Originally Posted by Wesker

As long as you have the Japanese import possibility at hand, the Sega Saturn +1000 games library shouldn't be considered small per se, and even if it's still smaller than the PlayStation library and which is also more accessible to the overall public. At least it's way bigger than the Nintendo 64 one.

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I doubt there's anywhere near 1000+ games on Saturn, that would be more than the Mega Drive, I'd be surprised if there were even 600

Digitpress lists 1589 Saturn games around the world. I wouldn't want the job of eliminating duplication by region. There are 252 US games, and 246 European games though.

Hahaha, wtf! The Saturn is ahead on votes.
Only on Sega-16.