Sigh... It's actually kind of funny that you're trying to make Sony sound so noble, when in fact you know not of what you speak.Quote:
Originally Posted by OldSchool
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Sigh... It's actually kind of funny that you're trying to make Sony sound so noble, when in fact you know not of what you speak.Quote:
Originally Posted by OldSchool
Where did I say Sony was noble.. oh that's right, I said Sonys handheld product was superior to Nintendos and that it was usually $10 cheaper a game taboot. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMatthews
get outta here
That's funny... I would say the same thing of the Zelda/Contra/etc games on the DS. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by jerry coeurl
The load times on my PSP have been pretty long and that sucks. I'm not sure what was sacrificed at the hardware level, but hopefully it was worth creating such long load times with everything.
Ah, but I wouldn't be counting the Zeldas among the best DS software. ;) Contra 4 is a possibility, but regardless, they're all new games, even if they are installments in established series. None of them are available in any other form, whereas when I had a PSP at least, most if not all of the games I was interested in were straight up remakes of games available on PSX, Nintendo, SNES, PS2, etc. In several cases the games got complete overhauls but that doesn't change the fact that they were remakes, and in the case of Mega Man Powered Up & Maverick Hunter, I definitely preferred the original games.
So yeah, it is a really nice piece of tech, but I was never overly impressed with the handheld's actual software. And I've never liked Sony's segmented d-pad and I don't really like the nub, but perhaps that's just me. I have plenty of issues with the DS too, mind, I just happen to think it has better and more original software. Regardless, I sold my DS too because I've come to realize I just much prefer a television for gaming. I ended up dumping my DS Lite and 25+ games for a little shy of $300 worth of store credit at a local mom & pop. I reinvested most of it into Genesis games and I've never looked back! :)
Are we having this discussion again?
Don't you guys know that Oldschool hates JRPGs and likes flashy graphics?
No point arguing against that.
DS has shitton of games but so little to play. No idea what PSP offers, but from what I see, it caters my taste of games better.
And that makes it all the better for prospective used buyers too. ;) (plentiful supply of used consoles)Quote:
Originally Posted by 108 Stars
We've only ever bought used Nintendo handhelds (and mostly used consoles in general)... and 2 DS classics, albeit it was more of a trade-in as game stop had a limited warranty on the "refurbished" DS we got iirc. That replacement's seen some rough wear though and the speakers are a bit finicky. (the diaphragm is loose on one)
That's my brother's...
We never upgraded from the GBA classic either other than jumping to the DS. (ie never had an SP)
And there's some decent emulators and homebrew stuff. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by TmEE
Also, shouldn't the DS-i not be counted in DS sales given the hardware enhancements and exclusive content? (it's almost to the extent of including GBC sales along with GB/GBP sales or Wii sales with GC sales -I mean the thing's got 2x the main CPU speed, 4x the main RAM, a big chunk of onbard flash and added SD/SDHC expansion all native to the DS-i)
Yet still runs the same games, unlike the GBC.Quote:
Originally Posted by kool kitty89
Ignoring all of the arguing in here...
I love my DS. Its sales figures are unsurprising because it caters to everyone from six-year-olds to sixty-year-olds and as mentioned has been re-designed a billion times in true Gameboy tradition.
The graphics are good enough and there's a large library of games I enjoy. It excels at on-the-go gaming and that's its purpose after all.
I'm glad the PSP was able to hang in there. It's good to have a real hand-held competitor take on Nintendo. Smart phone gaming has also been making strides and taking a dip into the handheld market as much as I could care less.
I'm interested in playing a 3DS for myself. I'm fully expecting to be underwhelmed but you never know.
I enjoy the PSP more more because of the console like games, to be honest the DS sucks in terms of games i have rarely played a game on it for over 10 mins however i can sit playing my PSP for hours perfectly happy. The worst part about the PSP is probably reliability, its perfect solid but the analogue stick seems to go very craptacula then break all together on the 2 PSPs ive had.Quote:
Originally Posted by jerry coeurl
Opinions seem to be split between people that enjoy the more recent console-like games (PSP), or people that enjoy classic 2D titles (DS).
Strange... considering we're on a retro board, you'd think that more people would favour the DS.
I don't really understand this aversion towards the DS. Very few good games on the DS are actually gimmicky, so that can't be it.
Is it because it's Nintendo?
Does all the shovelware cloud people's vision?
If i want something retro i just play something retro, i have no trouble in lugging a Game Gear around.
The thing for me is I do want games that I'm going to play in ten minute bites on my portable system. If I want a game that's going to take hours I'll sit down in front of a console.
That's not to say DS doesn't have its fair share of long-play games. Its RPG list has exploded over the years.
Looking at my stack of DS games I am seeing a lot of 2D games like Bangai-O Spirits, Metal Slug 7, Contra 4, the Sonics, the Mega Mans, the Castlevanias and so on... so I guess my personal preference does unconsciously trend toward that kind of game. I hate them for never releasing a new 2D or 2.5D DS Metroid.
Of course you can also just play ROMs on your PSP too and PSP has its own retro-themed games.
People pine for the past a lot but I enjoy playing new games with retro-game styles because they're new games that I haven't played before. I don't have PSP right now but I'd like to get one at some point.
Don't mind me wrong, I like the DS but there are just a few things wrong with it. Not with the unit itself, still have the original one, battery life is pretty good and controls seem fine. It just that it seems that Nintendo would rather promote on DS programs like Art Academy or Cooking Guide than a new Mario/Donkey Kong in Europe. I know that they are trying to broaden the market which is both a good and a bad thing but there are some people who doesn't want a touch a game no matter what.
As for the shovelware, you see it all the time with more yet to come like Phil Taylor's Darts but then again most consoles have shovelware even though the two Nintendo consoles you see more due to popularity. It annoys me that everywhere I go DS wise, they promote the same 4/5 year old games like Mario Kart DS and New Super Mario Bros. that I already own and in the second hand shop (CEX), all I see is a overload of Brain Training [which I won't get due to not into that type of game and it doesn't recognise my voice when I briefly tried someone elses]. All these classics that are mentioned either got a small print run so it is hard to find a legit copy or not even released in Europe like Contra 4.
Since I'm not into RPGs/Pokemon/puzzle games, that means that I had to get a PSP for my racing game fix even though at the beginning I was against buying one (something like PS2 ports if I remember correctly) until I realised that there were nothing DS wise for me anymore. It all depends on what you like whether to go for one, the other or both.
Also handheld wise I stick with the original model and don't upgrade unless there is a good reason to as in that they have to have a noticeable jump (Game Boy Pocket [too young to have an original Game Boy] -> Game Boy Color [colour] -> GBA original model [a big upgrade]-> DS original model [a big upgrade]). I consider DS lite, DSi and DSXL to be minor upgrades like smaller size, bigger size and built in camera that I would never use.
Nope, wrong... it plays exclusive games, but they're download only. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Olls
And unlike the PSP Go, it's got substantial hardware differences from its predecessors. (even the PSP 1000 to 2000's 32 to 64 MB RAM jump is far less significant) Albeit, the PSP physically lacks the drive to accept normal PSP games while the DS-i only eliminated GBA support.
And on the GBC, in many, many cases it DID play the same games with the cross compatible color enhanced GB/GBC games (honestly we only ended up buying a handful of GBC supported games and all were of those type oddly enough... not sure why we never invested too much in the GBC, but that wasn't the case with GBA -it was with DS early on with >75% of my brother's play time to GBA games). Actually, one of the main reasons we even had a GBC was because my brother's GB was a bit messed up (working but scratched screen and broken battery door) and there was a deal on the yellow version limited edition GBC at Funcoland. ;)
IIRC, the GBC also supported the few Super GB color enhanced games that were made. (though it's also surprising how many plain GB games cater well to at least one of the non grayscale default GBC palette options)
But I've gone off topic, the point is, the DS-i DOES have exclusive software... but is backwards compatible with the old DS games. (sort of like the Wii if it was made DL only)
I just do not get into handhelds. I only own a GB and GBC because they were 25Ē each at a yard sale.
Only way I will ever own a DS, Advance, or PSP is if someone gives them to me or they are dirt cheap at a charity thrift.