just got a 22" Widescreen at work (rant)

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01-14-2011, 04:03 PM
OldSchool

just got a 22" Widescreen at work (rant)

22" of wasted space and after only having my new machine/monitor combo on for less than 15 mins; my eyes are aching already.

What the fuck is wrong with people wanting to have to scan their eyes across this barrren landscape of monitor just to see the whole picture...

I hate widescreen and I hate everyone that loves widescreens. Screw all of y'all for the death of 4:3 aspect ratios.

I can't even imagine gaming on this piece of shit and straining my eyes to look left and right of my character in a FPShooter for instance.... this is so lame.
Might be cool for RTS but for every other genre of Gaming... feck that.
01-14-2011, 04:17 PM
nathanallan

I have to agree, monitors like that are overkill for almost everything I do, too. It being a work computer even more, there is no reason to have such large screens, unless you are doing graphic design or medical stuff, where clarity as much as possible is a must.

I am totally content on my 19" CRT here at home on my main PC. Works great, not too too big. Fits like a glove and I will be sad to see the day I have to replace it.
01-14-2011, 04:22 PM
GeckoYamori

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01-14-2011, 04:31 PM
OldSchool

Windows 7 is retarded... I don't like it.
01-14-2011, 04:53 PM
Xeniczone

I have a 24" wide screen, I think it is pretty nice it fills up my desktop, but I also do a lot of website design. I actually want 2 more of them so I can have 3x 24" wide screens. Which would really help with website production/programming.

For general use though, Anything bigger than 20" is kind of ridiculous.

4:3 screens are still being made. They are mostly for industrial use now. Like CNC machines. Though I'm not sure why the widescreen "hurts" your eyes so much. The widescreen is based on what is known as the "Golden Rectangle." Which is close to the 16:10 screen aspect ratio. The idea behind the golden rectangle is it is a shape that is most pleasing to the eyes.

If you really have to scan your eyes across the screen a lot or having problems seeing the screen, it sounds like you need to get your eyes checked. Specifically for your peripheral vision. The way you scan your eyes back and forward on the surface is because your not comfortable using your peripheral vision, or your peripheral vision is so small that at the low angles that your seeing the screen is blurry.

Yeah, I would definitely get your eyes checked.
01-14-2011, 05:03 PM
OldSchool

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Originally Posted by Xeniczone

I have a 24" wide screen, I think it is pretty nice it fills up my desktop, but I also do a lot of website design. I actually want 2 more of them so I can have 3x 24" wide screens. Which would really help with website production/programming.

For general use though, Anything bigger than 20" is kind of ridiculous.

4:3 screens are still being made. They are mostly for industrial use now. Like CNC machines. Though I'm not sure why the widescreen "hurts" your eyes so much. The widescreen is based on what is known as the "Golden Rectangle." Which is close to the 16:10 screen aspect ratio. The idea behind the golden rectangle is it is a shape that is most pleasing to the eyes.

If you really have to scan your eyes across the screen a lot or having problems seeing the screen, it sounds like you need to get your eyes checked. Specifically for your peripheral vision. The way you scan your eyes back and forward on the surface is because your not comfortable using your peripheral vision, or your peripheral vision is so small that at the low angles that your seeing the screen is blurry.

Yeah, I would definitely get your eyes checked.

Yeah, our business went with the widescreens because the 4:3s were $20-50 more per monitor which is ridiculous.

Well, whoever the hell postulated that and came to that conclusion is a damn fool because I DETEST having to scan such a wide area to see the same shit I could so easily see in 4:3:!:

that's why ^

That, and I don't like having to move my mouse twice as much.
Thanks to Windows 7 and widescreens, my surfing days are going to become much, much shorter.

You're a dumbass... I have 20/20 vision.
01-14-2011, 05:19 PM
nissling

I have a 19" LCD-screen in Academy Ratio (aka. 1.33:1 or 1.37:1) for my computer. It works quite good, but screens in 1.78:1 feels a bit clumsy to me. Especially for movies, I've always preferred Cinemascope. Watching a movie in that format gives a much richer picture then 1.78:1 and movies in Academy ratio only looks decent on screens in 1.33:1.

Windows is poor in general IMO, but W7 was a big step forward in comparisson to Vista (which doesn't say much).
01-14-2011, 05:44 PM
TrekkiesUnite118

Windows 7 isn't retarded. It's great. I started using it when it first came out and I haven't had any desire to go back to XP. But if your hate for it is simply because it looks too pretty, you can easily make it look like XP. Simply right click on your desktop, go to personalize, and select the Windows Classic Theme.

Oh, and this is some hilarious hypocrisy considering you were the one bitching about Capcom preserving their 4:3 aspect ratios in their PSP compilations instead of stretching them to widescreen.
01-14-2011, 05:51 PM
Phosis

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Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118

Oh, and this is some hilarious hypocrisy considering you were the one bitching about Capcom preserving their 4:3 aspect ratios in their PSP compilations instead of stretching them to widescreen.

NO SHIT.

Jesus Christ, this guy is unbelievable!

I think every thread he creates is done so specifically to yield a negative response so he can throw out jabs here and there "You're a dumbass!" "You're wrong, you fucking idiot!"

I understand full well I am doing nothing but to feed the trolls by offering any kind of response, it's just mind boggling how transparent these things are.

To offer something constructive...

I have no problem with 16:9 as long as the subject matter is designed for it. Anyone who decides to stretch from one aspect ratio to another has some serious issues. If I watch things designed for an original aspect ration, I expect them to be framed as such; not stretched out, and bent to fit. I love my widescreen monitor at home, gives me a ton of space to work with everything. I really don't understand the complaint about having more real estate, and since everything from DVD's, Blu-Rays to new video games are all designed with widescreen in mind, it would be pretty counterproductive to use an old monitor for those things. Though I do agree, I use an old TV to play Genesis and other things so that I don't HAVE to deal with the "frames" on the side. Also, those things look better on old TV's anyways.
01-14-2011, 05:54 PM
TrekkiesUnite118

I admit my current LCD monitor is a 4:3 19 inch LCD. But at the time when I got it the Widescreen ones didn't have good response times compared the 2ms I have with this one. However mine does have a 16:9 and 16:10 mode where if the resolution is say 1280x720 it will letterbox itself to properly display it.
01-14-2011, 05:56 PM
Obviously

I never had a problem looking at a widescreen. I never had to scan my eyes to see the entire picture. I have something that most humans have called peripheral vision.

My only complaint is that old games look like ass on them and I fear for the future when old TVs aren't around anymore.
01-14-2011, 06:04 PM
Chilly Willy

As a developer, I find a widescreen is a must if you don't have multiple displays. There's no other way to see everything you NEED to see at once - it's a widescreen display or multiple displays. At the time I put together my current dev system, one good widescreen was cheaper than two good 4:3 displays.
01-14-2011, 06:10 PM
Phosis

In my office, there are a few dudes who have a setup akin to Kevin Smith's from the newest Die Hard movie; about eight different massive widescreen monitors, with dozens of I-dunno's and watcha-majigs rocking the screen everywhere.
01-14-2011, 06:29 PM
OldSchool

This was a rant and nothing more. Not a "what are your thoughts"... because I could give a shit less what y'all think of widescreen.

I started a thread about cool DLC games to play on the PS3... why don't y'all save your energy for that instead..

this thread is fini
01-14-2011, 06:30 PM
Yoder

I don't call them widescreens... I just call them short screens. I hate them for computer monitors too.
01-14-2011, 06:32 PM
OldSchool

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phosis

NO SHIT.

Jesus Christ, this guy is unbelievable!

I think every thread he creates is done so specifically to yield a negative response so he can throw out jabs here and there "You're a dumbass!" "You're wrong, you fucking idiot!"

I understand full well I am doing nothing but to feed the trolls by offering any kind of response, it's just mind boggling how transparent these things are.

You're unbelievable you fucking troll.

All you did was jump on the trolling bandwagon in that Capcom PSP thread along with both Mods and now you're trying to talk down to me. If you and the other cunts hadn't straight up ignored my well constructed argument towards the end of the thread, I wouldn't be so quick to tell you to go fuck yourself when you try to "add something" to anything I have to say.

You're more than welcome to not ever reply to ANY of my threads again.
You're dismissed.
01-14-2011, 06:37 PM
Metal_Sonic

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01-14-2011, 06:38 PM
nissling

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118

Windows 7 isn't retarded. It's great. I started using it when it first came out and I haven't had any desire to go back to XP. But if your hate for it is simply because it looks too pretty, you can easily make it look like XP. Simply right click on your desktop, go to personalize, and select the Windows Classic Theme.

I don't dislike Windows because of its look, I dislike it because it has always felt unstable to me. Since I'm not doing much more on my computer then surfing the web, edit some pictures in Gimp sometimes and use OpenOffice for schoolwork, I don't pay attention to its large libary of programs. I don't think it's necessary to press the "Do you accept?"-button every time I'm trying to use a SD-card or just to start a program. Sure, if you spend all your time with videoediting and CAD, the positives with Windows overweights the negatives, no arguments about that from me. But for me, Linux is much more comfortable.

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Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118

Oh, and this is some hilarious hypocrisy considering you were the one bitching about Capcom preserving their 4:3 aspect ratios in their PSP compilations instead of stretching them to widescreen.

That's right! Try to fit a cube inside a rectangle, do you think the cube would fill the entire rectangle? No, of course not, unless if you cropped it or stretched it but then it's not a cube anymore. That's simple math.
01-14-2011, 06:41 PM
OldSchool

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Originally Posted by Metal_Sonic

I'm good at trolling you. I post pictures that upset you.

You call yourself a troll... kiddo, you're a gimped goblin at best.
01-14-2011, 06:44 PM
Xeniczone

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool

Yeah, our business went with the widescreens because the 4:3s were $20-50 more per monitor which is ridiculous.

This is because a 4:3 screen has a larger surface area than a 16:10 screen of an equal size. A 22" 4:3 screen has a surface area of 232.41 sq. in., and a 22" 16:10 screen has a surface area of 217.58 sq. in.. I'm pretty sure the company selling the screens are charging per the sq. in. not for the size diagonally.

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Well, whoever the hell postulated that and came to that conclusion is a damn fool because I DETEST having to scan such a wide area to see the same shit I could so easily see in 4:3:!

What exactly do you do on the computer? I will be the first to admit that some things are better on 4:3 compared to a 16:10.

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That, and I don't like having to move my mouse twice as much.
Thanks to Windows 7 and widescreens, my surfing days are going to become much, much shorter.

I found Windows 7 tolerable if you change the start menu back to the Vista style. It is an option under the start menu properties. I personally prefer Mac OS X myself, but Mac OS X is becoming as bad as windows with all the stupid useless features they keep adding. Some of them are useful like Spaces and Expose', but others... I miss my Mac OS 9.

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You're a dumbass... I have 20/20 vision.

That really wasn't necessary, and extremely odd. I've always considered myself rather smart :D. 20/20 vision just means you can see that specific line of letters at 20 feet, while the normal person can see at 20 feet. It doesn't mean anything about your peripheral vision. For example my vision is 60/20 or 20/60. I can't remember which way round it goes. Meaning what I see at 20ft a normal person sees at 60ft, but I still have near perfect 170 degree peripheral vision.

If you have poor peripheral vision it just means you have to move your eyes to see thing that are not directly in front of you. I believe they call this tunnel vision.

Plus why do you get frustrated at me? Based on the symptoms you described (having to scan your eyes across the screen), I diagnosed a problem that you may have. The only reason you have to scan your eyes across the screen is because your either sitting too close to the monitor, you have poor peripheral vision, or you have weak eye muscles. Their is obviously a problem if you have a problem with 16:10 screens and a normal person doesn't. Especially one as small as 22".
01-14-2011, 06:48 PM
Phosis

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool

You're unbelievable you fucking troll.

All you did was jump on the trolling bandwagon in that Capcom PSP thread along with both Mods and now you're trying to talk down to me. If you and the other cunts hadn't straight up ignored my well constructed argument towards the end of the thread, I wouldn't be so quick to tell you to go fuck yourself when you try to "add something" to anything I have to say.

You're more than welcome to not ever reply to ANY of my threads again.
You're dismissed.

u mad?
01-14-2011, 06:50 PM
OldSchool

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phosis

u mad?

because I can't simply whoop your ass and be done with it... ha, I guess you could say that

go play your JapRPGs
01-14-2011, 06:55 PM
nissling

OldSchool: Seriously, you got to chill out a bit. With guys like you, there's no way that this forum will be popular. You pretty much ruins this entire forum with all of your arguments that we're wrong and you're right by calling us idiots. Sure, I can feel like that for some members but I would never use it as an argument or even mention what I think about them. You on the other hand, doesn't seem to realize the diffrence between thinking for yourself and talking to others. That's something you need to understand, otherwise, it won't take long until you're banned.
01-14-2011, 07:13 PM
Phosis

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool

because I can't simply whoop your ass and be done with it... ha, I guess you could say that

go play your JapRPGs

So you would actually physically attack me over something like this?

Am I supposed to say how "NO, I would kick YOUR ass!" or something to that effect now? Is that the manly thing to do, or whatever?

Or should I just post a picture of the "trollguy" face and laugh at the fact that you are actually taking this personally enough to consider bringing an assault charge on yourself if this were a real life situation?
01-14-2011, 07:38 PM
JRedmond3

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

because I can't simply whoop your ass and be done with it... ha, I guess you could say that

http://i855.photobucket.com/albums/a...ettoughguy.jpg
01-14-2011, 07:40 PM
Phosis

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Originally Posted by JRedmond3

http://i855.photobucket.com/albums/a...ettoughguy.jpg

THANK you. Exactly what I was looking for.
01-14-2011, 07:41 PM
TrekkiesUnite118

If he considers simple debates trolling, I say we show him real trolling.

I'll start:
01-14-2011, 07:46 PM
Cornholio857

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool

because I can't simply whoop your ass and be done with it... ha, I guess you could say that

http://forum.codecall.net/attachment..._tough_guy.jpg
01-14-2011, 07:52 PM
Melf

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool

This was a rant and nothing more. Not a "what are your thoughts"... because I could give a shit less what y'all think of widescreen.

You start a thread to bitch about widescreen and don't want others to opine? You want people to read your rants and not respond? Here:

LiveJournal.

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this thread is fini

Finished? Yes, it is.