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The NDA covered also all of my code that interfaced with his engine. The mere fact of accessing the Z80 was enough. In other words, that would be stepping over my own copyright. The only way to distribute the game would be to remove absolutely all code that generated a dependency to his engine (removing his code isn't enough).
That, and I would never distribute code for an entire program that can't be used as is.
What I really don't understand is why you did release this without waiting for Oerg866's music.
The game isn't even complete, wouldn't it make more sense to ask why it was released like this?
Well why was it released like this. I dont understand why you stopped continuing work on it. Its feels very solid and would be awesome when complete. I understand that you may have a better engine/idea but you should finish it.
I would absolutely love for the engine to get released. I've worked with it a couple of times and it's absolutely convenient.
(Oh, that would also mean I could finally get this fucker released =P)
Also for those of you who absolutely cannot wait for the PMD music, here's a little example of what the engine can do (it can do more than that, I left one channel free in that one).
Oh, and here is a very early beta version of PMD's credits tune.
And before you ask; Yes, Echo does work fine on real HW :P
Cheers!
Oerg866 - Totally amazing stuff here. This game needs to be finished.
I agree with you, Anonymouse.
I cannot really put in the music anymore, right now. I was in charge of the soundtrack, and I did one aswell, but: Sik and I are not exactly seeing eye to eye on each other, for reasons I shall not discuss here. Let's just say that I have offended him (not wantingly, but I did, and I could shoot myself every day beacuse of it).
I can only hope he will forgive me soon, because I really did enjoy working with him.
Cheers!
Just steering the conversation about Project MD from the Affinity Sorrow thread to here. I still say Project MD is awesome, despite it's simplicity.
Yeah I always imagined her looking more like the chick from Space Channel 5 for the Dreamcast. I'm all for her being the homebrew macot, but I think before that happens Project MD should be done. The entire theme of the game is hardware/software and would be very appropriate for the homebrew mascot idea. However, if the game isn't finished no one will know who the character is, so that would be kinda silly. On the other hand if someone finishes it and it gets some sort of release it could be a nice symbol of Sega homebrew development. I think it's because of the whole "inside the computer" theme of the game that really makes it so appropriate for that purpose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sik
Official homebrew mascot? Not as long as the game is unfinished and unreleased. Maybe I'm a bit biased, but I think Edessot of Pier Solar would do better as a homebrew mascot right now :P.
EDIT: I should not post at 7AM after 3 hours of sleep Q_Q
Lol I think its a bit much asking for one the characters from Project MD to be a mascot for homebrew when the game was never finished. This way the character would relate with very few people. I think Edessot would be much more appropriate. I dont mean this in a overly critical way. Projecy MD is awesome and should be completed.
I played a couple levels yesterday... it's a nice game, for all that it's not complete. It's definitely a good start.
Has anybody beaten Mechanical Heart? =|
As Sik already introduced, I am in progress of converting the old SFX data to the new system and modifying PMD to accept the new engine and implement the music.
I hope I'll be able to give some previews when the time has come (if Sik is ok with that :V)
This is great news. You should make a website and take pre-orders :-). Im sure many people would be interested :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Oerg866
I agree with and second everything in this statement. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Anonymouse
An advice, inspired by the experience of Pier Solar: don't take pre-orders until the game is in the final beta testing or completely done.
I won't take preorders until the game is finished, period. Not just to avoid taking preorders when the game may not be out, but also since I need to know the cartridge contents to know how much would it cost (I think it may be a 512KB ROM but I'm not sure, and I'd have yet to settle on which kind of memory it'd use for savegames).Quote:
Originally Posted by Anonymouse
Also I need a host so I can make a MD homebrew site, though then again I never settle on the contents =|
Sometimes I wish even big publishers would take this advice...Quote:
Originally Posted by Zebbe
So, Project MD now is working on the new Echo, meaning it isn't playing sounds off a crappy broken sound engine anymore =P Thought I may say this.
Also I may release Echo soon... provided I find a suitable place to host the files and such =/ Echo isn't finished (current version is labeled 0.7), but it should be usable (more specifically: stereo works but isn't complete, pausing and global volume need to be implemented, otherwise Echo is pretty much complete). I need to get a Z80 assembler on this computer -_-'
Great News Sik. Keep at it, im really interested in this
Wait, so Project MD is still alive and will eventually be released as a homebrew game to buy? I thought it was cancelled.
It is still cancelled indeed, the only thing that's happening is inserting the music, as I said before
Huh. Well here's something you don't see every day.
If you want to follow this game some more, we welcome you into the following IRC channel:
Server: irc.badnik.net
Channel: #projectmd
You can go online with an IRC client (mIRC, XChat, KVIrc, Chatzilla, Opera's built in client) by clicking this link too: irc://irc.badnik.net/projectmd
Webchat client: http://mibbit.com/chat
Right. To all germans attending the Doreco event (http://www.doreco.de), you will get a chance to play the current build (WITH music)!
Cya there!~
You forgot to mention the Doreco event =/ [/asshole]
Wait, you did. Screw that.
EDIT: how many people made it here?
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/7720/youtu.png
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Myg_TKkVmjQ
SUCKAAAAHS :D
What could go possibly wrong?
A power outage.
Wouldn't that make the level 100% easier? I mean, if the lasers don't work and the gears aren't moving, Stephany can't get hurt by the most dangerous hazards in the level, right?
well, the moving platforms wouldn't move :P
What powers the moving platforms in other levels? =P
WOW the music is awesome on this game :-). Who composed it? It totally transforms the game from feeling a bit cold to warm and full of life. The only thing I could comment is on the jump sound. Its either too loud or needs be changed.
Other than that the game looks like its gonna be awesome. I hope there is a cart release :-)
Oerg himself made the music, and yes it is great stuff ^^
Yeah, that music is great. But I think itīs relying on the quantization noise of the discrete YM2612 and the MD1 filtering.
I'm glad someone is still working on this, but what's the point of adding in music if the game will never be finished? I'm a little confused...
As a mental exercise I like to figure out how Project MD effects could be reproduced using BasiEgaXorz. One thing that I can't yet grasp is the pitfall harry style swinging ropes. How are those made? I could see using up tiles pre-rendering the whole swing but there must be another way..
The ropes are made out of multiple sprites, lol. There isn't much to them really.
http://i.imgur.com/heq3q.png
Still doesn't do anything, but it's there. And yes, flickering trick on the freaking pause menu, I couldn't get good color shades for it unless I want to be unfriendly to colorblind people -_-' (OK, Stephany's power-up colors aren't much better, but at least you can keep track of what item you got last)
EDIT: because the pause menu looks like shit without the flickering trick, here, blend of two consecutive frames so you get an idea of how it should look:
http://i.imgur.com/B7XH8.png
I should get a program to do animated GIFs...
Echo is making some progress, sik has done a huge fuckton of optimizations to PCM, and therefore I was able to implement some musical blast processing (aka OONTZ on GENESIS:
http://www.mdscene.net/~pvt/projmd_000.mp3
This is the drums from Ether Network's music. This level has by far the most technically appealing and most musically advanced BGM. I've been writing a completely new xm2esf (Echo stream format) and just as a small spoiler, this program will be publically released and is the first tool to allow to create music using all major effects from the XM format (arpeggio, portamento up, portamento down, tone porta, vibrato, volume slide, set volume).
This moment, if you realize that VGM Music Maker can do all those things -- remember, VMM does not have MD-replayable output (it has no sound engine on the MD), only VGM export.
So, I realize the music for this level will probably stand out from the others, but heh, I'm pretty pleased. Note that in the above MP3 all channels except PCM are muted.
Cheers :P
Pure awesomeness... I don't know what to do, so I rep'ed you and Sik.
Thank you very much for all your efforts!