Doom 32X (wow, I played it finally...)

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02-07-2011, 04:00 PM
OldSchool

Doom 32X (wow, I played it finally...)

I recently acquired this along with my 32X (was included in the lot). After seeing you guys talk about this port for the last year I was very interested to see what all the hubub was about. Wow, I can't believe the positive things that y'all said about this port. I've seen countless numbers of y'all claim that this was a very worthy alternative to the PC version.... wow, how much more wrong could y'all have been. :?

1. It's in Low Graphics mode. (anyone who's played the PC version knows there are two modes, and this port is done with the Low Graphics option which is TERRIBLE looking... hell, I don't even think people on decently fast 386s had to play it looking like this)

2. The frame rate is a joke. Frames in the teens on the first map with hardly anything going on... lol, I can only imagine how poorly the game runs past the 1st map. I don't even know how anyone can play the game with framerates in the teens... it's beyond me.

3. As if the low graphics mode and piss poor frame rates were bad enough, this version also uses barely half of the screen.

4. Need I say more...

I played the first two maps and it was one of the biggest struggles I've ever encountered during a game. I literally could not force myself to play through this game much less give it an ounce of the credit this board has given it. To be a Gamer and call this port of Doom, "worth playing" much less any other ill fated praise is insane.

I see that the game CIB goes for $20-30... my copy is literally MINT, the PINS look brand new and the case looks brand new. It's obvious why it didn't get played :rofl:
Anyone interested in my copy?
02-07-2011, 05:04 PM
kgenthe

This comes up every few months. Is 32x the best version of Doom to ever be created? No. Is it a great 32x game? Yes.

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

1. It's in Low Graphics mode. (anyone who's played the PC version knows there are two modes, and this port is done with the Low Graphics option which is TERRIBLE looking... hell, I don't even think people on decently fast 386s had to play it looking like this)

Considering the 32x has 2mbit (not bytes) of ram, I think it looks rather good. Some shading (like Jag Doom) would have gone a long way though.

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2. The frame rate is a joke. Frames in the teens on the first map with hardly anything going on... lol, I can only imagine how poorly the game runs past the 1st map. I don't even know how anyone can play the game with framerates in the teens... it's beyond me.

I found the frame rate to be rather strong point for this game. Compared to other early console 3D games (the SNES super FX title, Metal Head, and some of the Jag stuff) it's rather smooth. It's very playable.

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3. As if the low graphics mode and piss poor frame rates were bad enough, this version also uses barely half of the screen.

As if this hasn't been harped on for the past 15 years...
02-07-2011, 05:17 PM
OldSchool

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Originally Posted by kgenthe

This comes up every few months. Is 32x the best version of Doom to ever be created? No. Is it a great 32x game? Yes.

Considering the 32x has 2mbit (not bytes) of ram, I think it looks rather good. Some shading (like Jag Doom) would have gone a long way though.

I found the frame rate to be rather strong point for this game. Compared to other early console 3D games (the SNES super FX title, Metal Head, and some of the Jag stuff) it's rather smooth. It's very playable.

As if this hasn't been harped on for the past 15 years...

What planet are you from? How you can say the game is playable with frame rates in the teens and under is beyond me. Because of the frame rates, the game is unplayable which makes it a terrible game.

Those who claim this game is playable should be ashamed of themselves for lying to other gamers.
02-07-2011, 05:28 PM
Chilly Willy

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

What planet are you from? How you can say the game is playable with frame rates in the teens and under is beyond me. Because of the frame rates, the game is unplayable which makes it a terrible game.

Those who claim this game is playable should be ashamed of themselves for lying to other gamers.

Damn! I'd hate to see you review games like The Eidolon or Rescue on Fractulus...

"These games are pathetic! A mere 6 FPS which any 386 could run ten times as fast!!" :mad:

:p :D

15 FPS is plenty playable to someone who isn't obsessed with framerate, as you appear to be from several threads you've created, this just being the latest.

The 32X can actually play the first level faster, but they opted for a set frame rate for the whole game to keep later levels with more stuff from looking worse in comparison.
02-07-2011, 05:35 PM
StealthNinjaScyther

I played this for the first time a few weeks ago. The game is completely playable. It's not the ideal way to play Doom by a long shot but it is far from unplayable. I honestly found it rather enjoyable.
02-07-2011, 05:36 PM
cowboyscowboys

What do you expect from fan boys? The 32x is a joke and not worth the space it takes up in any collection.
02-07-2011, 05:47 PM
TrekkiesUnite118

It's still better than Saturn Doom. Doom on the Saturn makes the 32X verison look like it's running at 60 fps.
02-07-2011, 05:47 PM
OldSchool

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Originally Posted by StealthNinjaScyther

I played this for the first time a few weeks ago. The game is completely playable. It's not the ideal way to play Doom by a long shot but it is far from unplayable. I honestly found it rather enjoyable.

After playing this port of Doom on the 32X, I can safely say that anyone who says this port is "playable" is a fool. You can have your opinion by all means, Stealthninja, but I think it's unfair for Doom fans to see your opinion and then think there's a playable version of the game on the 32X to which I completely disagree.

If anyone was to ever inquire about this game, I think it's only fair to that person to tell them that the Frame Rates are in the teens and under 100% of the time. The port feels like slow motion.

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Originally Posted by cowboyscowboys

What do you expect from fan boys? The 32x is a joke and not worth the space it takes up in any collection.

It does a few games very well.
;)

Saying Doom on the 32X is playable is akin to saying eating rat poison won't kill you. :nod:

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Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118

It's still better than Saturn Doom. Doom on the Saturn makes the 32X verison look like it's running at 60 fps.

christ... that sounds scary... the 32x port is unplayable as it is... how in the world is it that the Saturn didn't have enough HP to do a 100% PC port????????????????????????????????????????

baffles me :daze:
02-07-2011, 05:55 PM
evildragon

Stop pushing your opinion as fact, it's really annoying and insulting.
02-07-2011, 05:57 PM
evildragon

This is PLENTY playable.
02-07-2011, 06:00 PM
OldSchool

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Originally Posted by evildragon

This is PLENTY playable.

Poison won't kill you, the world is square, and there are 25 hours in a day.

:|
02-07-2011, 06:03 PM
doomguy

I dont know what planet "OldSchool" is on a framerate in the teens is perfectly playable and the game runs at a fast pace for a 1994 console shooter. 2nd the graphics are less pixelated than the Pc version on the low mode, they are in between the high and the low mode.
Third the controls are good and it plays like the Pc version, the Pc version is fun and so is the 32x version.

Please change your name to NewSchool because you clearly don't have a clue about anything oldschool.
02-07-2011, 06:07 PM
evildragon

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

Poison won't kill you, the world is square, and there are 25 hours in a day.

:|

Yea, and you're just butthurt cause you don't know how to just enjoy things and quit confusing your reality with our reality.
02-07-2011, 06:07 PM
TrekkiesUnite118

Sorry but Doom 32X is very playable and has a decent frame rate for the hardware.

Saturn Doom on the other hand is an even worse rush job. It's a port of the PS1 version which is a port of the Jaguar version which is a port of the PC version. So the Saturn port is a port, of a port, of a port. It's just awful:

Then 3DO Doom you have to lower the screen size to even smaller than the 32X just to get a frame rate that is about the same if not worse than the Saturn port:

32X Doom by comparison is an amazing port.
02-07-2011, 06:09 PM
evildragon

Actually it goes like this. Jaguar Doom is compiled from the NeXT code, and 32X doom is a port of the Jaguar version.

I forgot where I read that but I'm searching for it right now.

Found it: http://doom.wikia.com/wiki/Atari_Jaguar
02-07-2011, 06:11 PM
doomguy

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Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118

Then 3DO Doom you have to lower the screen size to even smaller than the 32X just to get a frame rate that is about the same if not worse than the Saturn port:

32X Doom by comparison is an amazing port.

The 3DO version is under rated you can have a bigger screen than that and have it match the 32X frame rate the controls are great the music is great and it runs at a nice resolution, if you have a big TV it could be the best console port.
02-07-2011, 06:18 PM
TrekkiesUnite118

When you increase the screen size the frame rate goes down:

Sorry but that is truly a bad port of Doom.
02-07-2011, 06:23 PM
doomguy

I meant by like 1 more option i do own the game, i mean that is my YT video, i find the game very fun on the lower screen sizes. Just curious do you own many ports which do you like the best? the only one i am missing is the Jag and i will pick it up next time its going for cheap. I have played all the other ports to death (even the Saturn) the 3DO version is alright once you get used to the lower screen sizes.
02-07-2011, 07:03 PM
TrekkiesUnite118

I dont really own any ports, but growing up lots of my friends had various different systems with different ports of Doom, so I have seen the SNES, the Saturn, the PS1, and the 32X ports in person though it was a while ago.

However my best memories of Doom and Doom 2 come from my one friends house who's dad set up a LAN between all the computers they had and we would play LAN games of Doom.
02-07-2011, 07:22 PM
ThunderForce

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

Poison won't kill you, the world is square, and there are 25 hours in a day.

:|

I know you like men baby so come over to my place were we can have a fun time playing it today in our boxers on Cornholio's bed. ;)
02-07-2011, 07:30 PM
Cornholio857

^My bed isn't at your place. I sleep in my car.

Doom 32X isn't that bad of a port considering the Hardware. Some parts aggravating, yes. But unplayable, no.
02-07-2011, 07:57 PM
OldSchool

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Originally Posted by doomguy

I dont know what planet "OldSchool" is on a framerate in the teens is perfectly playable and the game runs at a fast pace for a 1994 console shooter. 2nd the graphics are less pixelated than the Pc version on the low mode, they are in between the high and the low mode.
Third the controls are good and it plays like the Pc version, the Pc version is fun and so is the 32x version.

Please change your name to NewSchool because you clearly don't have a clue about anything oldschool.

looks the same to me :|

Framerates in the teens does not = playable... you're fucking retarded.

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Originally Posted by evildragon

There's 61 seconds in a minute.

:nod:

Wow... after seeing so many of you defend this absolute joke of a port... it's no wonder I feel smarter. :p Y'all are weird.
02-07-2011, 08:02 PM
TrekkiesUnite118

We are defending it because considering how rushed it was and the hardware it still came out decent and better than ports on more powerful systems like the Saturn and 3DO. A framerate around 15-20 fps may not be ideal but its still very playable. Games like Daytona USA, Panzer Dragoon, and Quake on the Saturn are proof of that.
02-07-2011, 08:05 PM
evildragon

Oldschool, don't you put fucking words in my mouth, or insult any of us here.. Quit while your behind.
02-07-2011, 08:08 PM
The Coop

A thread where OldSchool complains about something and starts making belittling, intolerant and insulting comments toward those who don't agree with him?

Who'd of thunk it!

Anyway, I enjoyed the Saturn version of Doom more than the 32X version. Yes, the framerate is considerably lower, but the graphics are better and moodier, the sound is better (even if you do have to use mono to fix the sound), there are a lot more levels (just in Doom alone), all the weapons are there (how the hell did they forget to put the BFG 9000 in any of the levels in the 32X version?), the Cyberdemon's there, all the enemies have more than one side, it's full screen, and you even get a password save feature.

It's a very flawed port to be sure, but it's still more enjoyable to me. The 32X version is decent, and it's a nice intro to the game if you've never played one of the better home ports or PC original. But it just lost too much IMHO.
02-07-2011, 08:08 PM
OldSchool

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Originally Posted by evildragon

1+1=3.

:nod:

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Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118

We are defending it because considering how rushed it was and the hardware it still came out decent and better than ports on more powerful systems like the Saturn and 3DO. A framerate around 15-20 fps may not be ideal but its still very playable. Games like Daytona USA, Panzer Dragoon, and Quake on the Saturn are proof of that.

THAT is beyond interesting right there... I'm gonna save this one for another debate. thks:!:
02-07-2011, 08:10 PM
TrekkiesUnite118

I'm again really tempted to make a thread just like this for OldSchool:

http://forums.sega.com/showthread.php?198157
02-07-2011, 08:11 PM
OldSchool

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Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118

I'm really tempted to make that thread...

nike
02-07-2011, 08:16 PM
evildragon

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

I eat dog poo. :D

:p

I can put words in your mouth too..
02-07-2011, 08:18 PM
TrekkiesUnite118

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

I bought a 32X for the sole purpose of anally raping Justin Bieber with it!

This is a fun game to play...