I didn't say "long" before the SNES. The SNES was getting a bunch of games through 1998-ish and the Genesis petered out in the US in 1995-ish, mostly. Seems like a fair guess.
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I didn't say "long" before the SNES. The SNES was getting a bunch of games through 1998-ish and the Genesis petered out in the US in 1995-ish, mostly. Seems like a fair guess.
In Japan maybe, but for US releases, there really wasn't much released beyond 1995. The only notable US SNES game of '98 is Kirby's Dream Land 3 (still a wonder this ever came out, knowing what Nintendo is like). The SNES had lots of RPGs throughout it's life, almost all had batteries. Even action games had batteries, to save your current position and such.
Fair enough.
We should create a list (prob. in another thread, don't want to derail Joe.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Guntz
ed: Here are most of the games:
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/show...=134961&page=2
32X cart battery games:
36 Great Holes starring Fred Couples
Knuckles Chaotix (FRAM)
NBA Jam Tournament Edition (EEPROM)
NFL Quarterback Club (EEPROM)
World Series Baseball 95
Virtua Racing Deluxe (JP Only, FRAM)
Genesis battery games:
Blockbuster World Videogame Championship II (NBA Jam T.E. portion) (EEPROM)
Mega Man: The Wily Wars (Europe/Japan only title on physical cart; all European copies of the game, and the second ([alt] rom) release of the Japanese version, use EEPROM. The original Japanese release uses SRAM (battery).
Micro Machines 2 (Europe exclusive title) (EEPROM)
Micro Machines '96 (Europe exclusive title) (EEPROM)
Micro Machines Military (Europe exclusive title) (EEPROM)
Brian Lara/Shane Warne Cricket (Europe/Australia exclusive title) (EEPROM)
Aerobiz
Aerobiz: Supersonic
ATP Tour Championship Tennis
Ayrton Senna's Super Monaco GP 2
Barkley: Shut Up and Jam! 2 (EEPROM)
Beyond Oasis
Bill Walsh College Football
Bill Walsh College Football '95
Brett Hull Hockey '95
Buck Rogers: Countdown to Doomsday
Coach K College Basketball
College Football USA '96
College Football USA '97: The Road to New Orleans
College Football's National Championship
College Football's National Championship II
College Slam (EEPROM)
Crusader of Centy
Dungeons & Dragons: Warriors of the Eternal Sun
ESPN National Hockey Night
ESPN Speedworld
ESPN Sunday Night NFL
Evander "Real Deal" Holyfield Boxing (EEPROM)
Exile
FIFA Soccer '95
FIFA Soccer '96
FIFA Soccer '97
Frank Thomas Big Hurt Baseball (EEPROM)
Gemfire
Genghis Khan 2: Clan of the Gray Wolf
Greatest Heavyweights of the Ring (EEPROM)
Hardball '94
Hardball '95
Hardball III
IMG International Tour Tennis
Jack Nicklaus' Power Challenge Golf
John Madden Football '93
John Madden Football '93 Championship Edition
Landstalker
Liberty or Death
Light Crusader
Madden NFL '94
Madden NFL '95
Madden NFL '96
Madden NFL '97
Madden NFL '98
Master of Monsters
Might & Magic: Gates to Another World
MLBPA Baseball
NBA Action '94
NBA Action '95
NBA Hang Time
NBA Jam (EEPROM)
NBA Jam Tournament Edition (EEPROM)
NBA Live '95
NBA Live '96
NBA Live '97
NBA Live '98
NBA Showdown '94
NCAA Final Four Basketball
NCAA Football
NFL '94 starring Joe Montana
NFL '95
NFL '98
NFL Quarterback Club (EEPROM)
NFL Quarterback Club '96 (EEPROM)
NHL '94
NHL '95
NHL '96
NHL '97
NHL '98
NHL All-Star Hockey '95
NHLPA Hockey '93 (EEPROM)
Nobunaga's Ambition
Operation Europe: Path to Victory 1939-45
Pebble Beach Golf Links
Pele II: World Tournament Soccer
Pele!
PGA European Tour Golf
PGA Tour '96
PGA Tour Golf
PGA Tour Golf II
PGA Tour Golf III
Phantasy Star II
Phantasy Star III: Generations of Doom
Phantasy Star IV: The End of the Millenium
Pirates! Gold
Prime Time NFL
PTO: Pacific Theater of Operations
Rings of Power (EEPROM)
Romance of the Three Kingdoms II
Romance of the Three Kingdoms III: Dragon of Destiny
Shadowrun
Shining Force
Shining Force II
Shining in the Darkness
Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (FRAM)
Sorcerer's Kingdom
Sports Talk Baseball (EEPROM)
Sports Talk Football '93 starring Joe Montana
Star Trek: The Next Generation
Starflight
Summer Challenge
Super Hydlide
Sword of Vermilion
Tecmo Super Baseball
Tecmo Super Bowl
Tecmo Super Bowl II: Special Edition
Tecmo Super Bowl III: Final Edition
Tecmo Super Hockey
Tecmo Super NBA Basketball
Test Drive II: The Duel
TNN Bass Tournament of Champions
TNN Outdoors Bass Tournament '96
Tony LaRussa Baseball
Tony LaRussa Baseball '95
Traysia
Triple Play '96
Triple Play Gold Edition
Troy Aikman NFL Football
Uncharted Waters
Uncharted Waters: New Horizons
Unnecessary Roughness '95 (EEPROM)
Virtual Pinball
Wacky Worlds Creativity Studio
Warrior of Rome II
WarSong
Wayne Gretzky and the NHLPA All-Stars
Winter Challenge
Wonder Boy in Monster World (EEPROM)
World Cup USA '94
World Series Baseball
World Series Baseball '95
World Series Baseball '96
World Series Baseball '98
Ys III: Wanderers from Ys
Joe, I want your children,
keep up the good work.
Allow me to add to your list with the one's I know of first hand...Quote:
Originally Posted by Genesis Knight
Phantasy Star II
Phantasy Star III
Phantasy Star IV
Shining in the Darkness
Dungeons & Dragons: Warriors of the Eternal Sun
Traysia
Sword of Vermilion
Warsong
Phantasy Star (Japanese re-release)
World Series Baseball
World Series Baseball '95
World Series Baseball '96
World Series Baseball '98
NFL Football '94
NFL '95
NFL '98
PGA Tour Golf
PGA Tour Golf 3
Tecmo Super Bowl
Exile
Super Hydlide
Sorcerer's Kingdom
Master of Monsters
Virtual Pinball
Ys III: Wanderers From Ys
NBA Jam
NBA Jam T.E.
And a few 32X games...
36 Great Holes starring Fred Couples
NFL Quarterback Club
World Series Baseball
So yeah, Guntz. The Genesis wasn't very outnumbered in this area (if outnumbered at all), since I'm sure there were plenty more.
Edit: Oh sure, Genesis Knight goes and edits his post while I'm typing :lol:
Suggestions are always welcome! That's definitely in the works for a future episode (can't promise exactly when, but it's definitely coming). I just want to make sure that as many handhelds are represented as possible. Right now it seems we have access to all of them, though I'm not sure if Dave has the O.G. GameBoy. I'm sure he has it in some form, but I want to present the very first model.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMatthews
If I ever have any, you are most welcome to them and all the costs incurred as a result of their existence. Thanks for the offer, it's like a "get out of jail free" card!Quote:
Originally Posted by JDB1983
You should do a show about the common misconceptions (fanboy fodder) of various systems and highlight games which showcase why they aren't true. This will help viewers spot someone spouting nonsense about their beloved console so they know to point and laugh at them when they turn their back, or right in their face if so desired.
I was being polite. Your videos are so masterful, they make me want to have sex with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Redifer
How many SNES racing games had battery saves? F-Zero didn't, and it came out around the same time as Road Rash. I'm not seeing any obvious sign that Road Rash would've had a higher likelihood of having a battery save on SNES. If SNES had more games with battery saves, it's because SNES had more of the types of games that demand it (especially RPG and action-adventure), not because it was a more common practice on that console.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamahl
I wouldn't say this is really true at all. The SNES may have had more releases in 1996 and 1997 than Genesis, but not by a wide margin, and certainly not a lot of high-profile games. Both systems had the same final release at the same time (Frogger in 1998).Quote:
Originally Posted by Genesis Knight
Just a note, Kirby's Dream Land 3 came out in late '97 in North America, so that's not true. The only US SNES game of '98 at all is Frogger. Same as Genesis. Kirby's Dream Land 3 was the final first-party game for the console, and came out near the same time as The Lost World for Genesis, its final first-party release.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guntz
What SNES action games -- not action-adventure like Zelda and Metroid -- had battery save?Quote:
Even action games had batteries, to save your current position and such.
There's a metric ton of Sports games on that list. There really isn't that much for non-sports. That would certainly explain why I couldn't think of any.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Coop
Besides, I don't often open my Genesis carts. For some weird reason, those screws are extremely difficult to screw back in, requiring a lot of pressure. They can easily go in crooked or not even make it all the way in.
Late '97? Weird, could have sworn it was '98 for sure. I suppose it might as well be 98 if it was released in November or December. Still, I for one can't think of a reason why or how that game made to US shores. Nintendo LOVES to drop support instantaneously for a previous console, even going so far as to cancel games that are nearing completion (Star Fox 2, Earth Bound NES, DK Barrel Blast GC).Quote:
Originally Posted by j_factor
Mind you, Sega is far worse in that respect, but at least they don't often have anything worthwhile canceled when they jump to a new piece of hardware.
Super Mario Kart, Uniracers, Stunt Race FX. Just to name 3 popular ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by j_factor
Actraiser, Mech Warrior, Soul Blazer?Quote:
Originally Posted by j_factor
Then there's a ton of platform games, such as the DKC's, the Mario games, the Kirby's, etc.
Sure can't think of many racing/platform/action games on genesis that had battery saves and that should've had them. Kid Chameleon comes to mind.
[Nintendo Hatemonger Arguments]
Surely SNES had more games with battery backup...
Most of SNES games are very slow paced due to its wimpy main processor, so it'll take weeks to finish a game that you could complete in a couple of hours using Genesis.
[/Nintendo Hatemonger Arguments]
Sure, there are a few, but there are a few on Genesis too. It doesn't seem like there's an overwhelmingly large number of them on SNES. And although this applies to all three Road Rash games, the comment was made specifically in reference to the first. So there's certainly nothing to suggest it would've had a battery save on SNES at that juncture.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olls
The only reason I'm harping on this is because I've never heard anyone say that before. Is it a commonly-held belief?
ActRaiser is half strategy game, MechWarrior has RPG/trading elements, and Soul Blazer is an action-RPG. :DQuote:
Actraiser, Mech Warrior, Soul Blazer?
I suppose there's that, considering the first two Sonic games (and Kid Chameleon) didn't save. That's still pretty weak though, since we're talking about Nintendo's long platformers (much longer than average), of which there are 7.Quote:
Then there's a ton of platform games, such as the DKC's, the Mario games, the Kirby's, etc.
Some chipped SNES games were listed...
Sega-CD is an add-on but it's still Genesis too... Many Sega CD games had saves!
Genesis also plays SMS games, and Ys has saves for an example!
Genesis Does again! Super Nintendon't!
Not that I doubt this, but I'm wondering if this is technically true. The Master System version of Road Rash is pretty impressive, far more than it should be. Maybe something similar could be done on the SNES? Granted, SNES gamers of the time would have probably rejected it outright due to no Mode 7.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zebbe