Now you're just a 'tard who is looking for pointless online arguments. I'll let you be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blades
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Now you're just a 'tard who is looking for pointless online arguments. I'll let you be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blades
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Originally Posted by avlon
It works both ways, some of the SEGA fans can be just as bad as any of the Nintendo fanboys in their worship of all things Mega Drive.Quote:
Originally Posted by sull56ivan2010
I don't know. go check several video reviews of n64 games and see how much dislikes they get just for criticizing the n64. classic gameroom(mark and dave) on perfect dark for instance or game sack on n64. there are countless examples. when you see critic on sega stuff in videos the good-bad ratio of votes on good videos is still very high.Quote:
Originally Posted by Team Andromeda
Haven't go to go to Youtube, a vist on here shows how bais SEGA fans can be, more so with any criticism of the Mega Drive.Quote:
Originally Posted by bultje112
Absolutely, but there are far more erstwhile Nintendo fans around than Sega fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Team Andromeda
Say what you will about who did/didn't win the 16 bit generation, by how much, etc.
But Nintendo is the undisputed king of "retro". Almost any time someone mentions liking old games, or retro games, or classic games these days, it's nearly always exclusively a Nintendo console/game/series they are talking about. Anything else is just an afterthought (Sega, Atari, and even less with NEC or others).
It's definitely not just a Nintendo/Sega thing. Sports, comics, current consoles, comics, cartoons, Mac/PC, etc... herd behavior is a comical thing. Trollers gonna troll, and some folks are just incapable of friendly, constructive conversations.
You're on a freakin Sega site. What are you expecting from a site that covers the 8-bit hardware, Genesis/Mega Drive, CD/Mega CD and 32x?Quote:
Originally Posted by Team Andromeda
It's a lot more complicated than that. The point is that if Sega overall had really had any interest in making a true Sonic game for Saturn, none of that tragedy would have happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gogogadget
And even as big a Sega fan as a I am, I think SM64 was revolutionary and amazing for its time. Fanboyism aside, the game was a watershed moment.
What you really mean is that you get into endless arguments by relentlessly taking things out of context and changing the subject with each response. The fact that people you have parallel debates with post on here doesn't begin to equal what we are talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Team Andromeda
People who blindly idiolize Nintendo aren't Nintendo or retro game fans, they're just people who adopt opinions and parrot "Everybody knows that..." factoids.
I've never heard of a single person, let alone a majority of Sega fans say things like "All Sega games are legendary and all legendary games are Sega". It's also rare to find people say variations of "SNES only had one or two good games. There's like Mario Bros IV and like, whatever it's called, Actracer?"
How many people here insist that everything Sega has done to date is great and defend everything/anything the company has ever done business-wise?
Where are the Sega or Genesis fans who take every superficial spec out of context and then insist that Genesis games are doing things they aren't and that the hardware can do everything it didn't and that Sega simply chose not to do high color games?
Maybe you don't spend much time outside the forum and have somehow missed the common behaviour of a majority of people talking about "retro" games. But you're already using hyperboles that you know aren't true. However, please feel free to name a few of the forum members who worship "all things Mega Drive".
For people to be far more grown up and fair about things . I love SEGA and all their consoles too (well bar the 32X) but I'm well aware of their shortcomings when it comes to games and hardware.Quote:
Originally Posted by sull56ivan2010
Please, I'm no fan of Nintendo fans who love to bash Online gaming make out MS or SONY are not true gaming corps, how their consoles aren't true console because they offer multimedia functions or have the bare face cheek to moan and SONY or MS make sequels to HALO and Drakes and by the same token I despise the SONY PlayStation generation and their ignorance of gaming didn't start before SONY or Final Fantasy 7 is the 1st RPG.Quote:
Originally Posted by Black_Tiger
But on there some of SEGA fans can act and be no better in their defense and love of the Mega Drive and look to bash the Snes and not praise it all. Some SEGA fans can just be just as bias as the Nintendo ones, there just seems to be more of the Nintendo lot and Nintendo do get far too much love-in with the press too imo
It was a watershed moment and after that all Platform games needed to be in 3D or they'l be laughed at . SEGA America and Japan were both serious about getting a Sonic game out though to be faith to both . Sonic X was just in a mess from start to finish and bascially a badly run stuio at that point, with no direction and no leadership and not the 1st clue what system they were developing for . Sonic Team Japan were always going to make a new Sonic game on the Saturn, but its just sad that the Saturn didn't sell well enough so we could see Sonic Adv on the Saturn in the time frame they wanted .Quote:
Originally Posted by Melf
Its hard to knock or blame a Team that wants to make and try somthing new after making 4 sequels to the same game in 4 years straight.
Looking over all that, Its not like the Saturn hardware really up to handling massive 3D maps that could be run through at huge Speeds.
But 3D was huge back then, TA. I know I basically shunned most 2D games in favour of this so called new 3D thing. Exceptions were stuff like X-Men CotA because I never seen sprites so huge at home and such. But yeah, it took awhile to 3D & 2D enjoyment to balance out a bit more again.
Yes, Mario 64 and then Zelda 64 blew me and everyone away back in the day when they dropped like nukes. No mistake. Also one of those you had to be there moments.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melf
After Mario 64 everything had to be 3D, trouble was the Saturn and PS came out in 1994 and even the PS 3D wasn't really up to handling a 3D open world like the N64 could. And I really don't any other developer other than NCL could have made a 3D Platform game as good as Mario at that time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thief
Even with the DC I remember interviews with the Sonic team saying one of the hardest parts with Sonic Adv was making this huge maps that Sonic could race through and one of the team members even joked, how he wished Sonic was slow so it make his life easier.
There were many great examples of 3D on the Saturn though and the PS. Seeing Ridge race on a import PS back inthe 1994 was unlike any home racer we had seen before. Panzer Dragoon made my jaw hit the floor in 1995, VF Remix High Res mode was inane in early 1995 and then a few months latter SEGA took the mick with Sega Rally, VF II and Virtual Cop (which was basically the Arcade game) all in Christmas 1995 thanks to imports . The best Christmas I've ever had gaming wise .Quote:
Exceptions were stuff like X-Men CotA because I never seen sprites so huge at home and such
I agree with you on X-Men COTA even my brother was amazed at the 2D visuals on display and he was more into 3D gfx.