i've a few friends in the u.k. who have purchased this system and have complained of strained eyes and blurry vision after playing it. heard this may be a common problem, either way though i have a standard DSI and wont be rushing to buy this
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i've a few friends in the u.k. who have purchased this system and have complained of strained eyes and blurry vision after playing it. heard this may be a common problem, either way though i have a standard DSI and wont be rushing to buy this
Not for Nintendo apparently. Dropping the price by a third this soon after launch is confirmation that the thing is tanking right now. Not to say that the thing will ultimately be a flop (Nintendo put themselves in the best position to fix that with the price drop), but if sales fail to considerably pick up between August 12 and the end of the holidays, I doubt it will get any easier for them. Sony really looks like they stepped up their game this round, and tablets/phones are only becoming better gaming machines. I think Nintendo knows they gotta make a serious splash now or they might be stuck looking up at the Vita and smartphones for as long as they try to keep the 3DS going.Quote:
Originally Posted by JCU
Just because Nintendo thinks it's a failure, doesn't mean the customer base thinks so as well. From my eyes, common opinion among buyers and fence-sitters is that there's not enough good software yet for the 3DS to take off. It's not necessarily a failure. Those people aren't buying 3DS stuff because Nintendo and the other 3rd parties haven't bothered to produce any worthwhile software for the system. Even though this is again a catch 22, clearly the problem lies with Nintendo having too high of expectations for a handheld that really doesn't innovate that much which also has to compete with a totally new business model from the smart phone market.
Personally, if the 3DS being canceled early means Nintendo will try something revolutionary in handheld gaming again, like they did with the DS, then let the 3DS die in favor of progress. It'd be a win-win situation anyway, because if the 3DS was shelved in the near future, in 10 to 20 years it would be a real nice collector's system like the Virtual Boy.
Are you serious. Sustain? Shit it better do a lot better than just sustaining its current momentum. Its doing absmel. The library sucks too. I'm personally a huge fan fo 3d and was admitely excited but, there's not shit to want on the system. I need a killer app. Maybe a Earthbound remake or a new Golden sun. Shit maybe nintendo could try to at least make 1 new fucking ip.Quote:
Originally Posted by JCU
3D was 'supposed' to be that revolution, if there where any more interesting or better ideas available I'm sure Nintendo would have brought them to the table, it seems there efforts with the 3DS was trying there damned hardest not to go down the tablet/smartphone route, hence why they used an (arguable) gimmick of the 3D much like the Wii's motion control. Sony and Microsoft simply countered with there own gimmicks after the Wii's motion controls. But then it seems however they forgot that the success of Microsoft and Sony over the past 10-15 years has been about cannibalisation of other peoples innovations, that might sound like a harsh criticism, but if anything thats how they managed to thrive and you have to admire there tenacity. The 3D of 3DS faces a bigger threat, Sony are on trend with Vita and can happily ignore the 3D angle of the 3DS, unlike the brief fleeting success of the Wii.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guntz
Nintendo knows it can't play with the big boys by aping Sony, and Apple and other smartphone vendors, partly because they haven't got the expertise nor the infrastructure to handle it unless they team up with another manufacturer. It seems Nintendo lives and dies by the sword of its innovation, pander to taste with smart phones and there rapid convergence on gaming and end up having no differentiation from other competitors, or follow the blue skies management mantra bullshit and work outside the box?
Virtual Boy was a different time and place, Nintendo don't have the benefit of Gameboy cash revenues and a mature SNES market like it did in 95'-96' along with the buzz of the impending 'Nintendo Ultra 64'. There Gameboy Market (in the form of the DS) is being encroached on by other competitors, the Wii has flatlined at its point of maturation, and the Wii-U is not an easily discernible 'contender' purely because the other competitors Sony, and Microsoft haven't shown there hand yet and most responses from the press seem to have been luke-warm to only moderately positive.
The 3DS is of utmost importance, it is no novelty experiment like the Virtual Boy. And Sony really seems to stepping up its game. Imagine if Microsoft dropped a bombshell for a phone/handheld hybrid based on there Windows 7 phone next year? Or Apple pulls there finger out and actually creates a tangible Video Game strategy?
Hmmm
A price drop shows sales haven't met expectations. Nintendo was not being realistic with their desired sales though and no matter how hard the company tried to pass off $249.99 as a good deal, it wasn't happening. To the left of the 3ds you have the Wii and to the right the DS and both were substantially cheaper. Seeing the DS Lite at < $100 would be hard to pass up.Quote:
Originally Posted by AD2101
Nothing about sustaining its current momentum was mentioned or remotely suggested. Sales will be greater during the late fall and early winter. An increasing library coupled with a substantial price decrease should equal greater sales. "Should" is the operative word. Being able to keep sales steady during the dull months of the year is what will speak for this system.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clessy
Are you seriously? You use the word sustain right in the damn message I quoted.Quote:
Originally Posted by JCU
When this was said:Quote:
Originally Posted by Clessy
Stop arguing. Read the darn thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by JCU
In the next few months quite a few quality titles are scheduled for release. The holiday season will offer a better library then what we see today. Systems usually sell well during Xmas because of the titles released, promotions being offered, etc.., Lets see when Santa hangs up his hat and after some of the bigger names have been released.
You're asking if its gonna be able to sustain its sales throught Chrimstas. The issue is it isnt selling for shit. Hence it needed to do a lot better than just sustaining its sells.
Really? Its not just a regular ole' price drop, its a 33% price drop a few months after release. If you are a Nintendo PR guy, of course you are going to say "A price drop shows sales haven't met expectations" but when you announce this much of a cut this soon we all know the heads at Nintendo are hitting the panic button. Companies miss sales numbers all the time, and don't flip out like this unless its more dire than simply missing expectations for a quarter. This isn't Nintendo's first rodeo and I don't think they would have dropped the price like this unless they were really worried. Also some 3DS games have been getting shitcanned lately and that probably also helped put some heat on them to do something to get this thing going.Quote:
Originally Posted by JCU
No. After Christmas. Consistent sales through the year are important.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clessy
Luckily for Nintendo they can drop the price substantially and still turn a good profit. They left themselves room for error. The sales are certainly a concern but they haven't reached a panic inducing level.....yet. Quite frankly, there isn't a reason for such a drastic reaction. Not much has been released. If sales don't spring to life with releases of their first party games, sure, start to panic. The execs at Nintendo should realize people won't buy a system with an under impressive library.Quote:
Originally Posted by AD2101
That's the point, really; Nintendo's ideas for the prior generation, no matter whether people liked or loathed them, were fairly unique from an internal dev standpoint, and relative not only to the handheld/console market but the overall consumer electronics category.Quote:
Originally Posted by TVC 15
The ideas for WiiU are leftovers from Apple. The 3DS is a Lucasfilm/James Cameron/1950s retread of baby boomer childhood idealism (recursive, but that's the postmodernist ideal, after all, as well as the best argument for 3D: depth through repetition).
Whether you consider 3D a success, failure or a fad the problem for Nintendo is that there's nothing uniquely theirs about its conception or introduction. It has poor brand synergy, and is arguably a market argument that reached saturation before Nintendo released their product.
What's the big deal? More 3D? Lack of glasses? *yawn*
As an input variance, it may be the worst Nintendo release since the GB Color/Micro. Analog was provided by Sony 6 years ago. And the 3D is arguably more cosmetic than it was with the VirtualBoy.
Nintendo revolutionized next to nothing this gen. Catching up with the pack (for six months) isn't the most stellar market argument.
Of course they were trying to avoid a portable touch screen standard; arguable cost-thresholds, the issue of competing too directly with Apple and, let's be honest, that's the main N argument for console gaming. The WiiU is supposed to rip off Apple while the 3DS rides the zeitgeist of 3D, circa 2009.Quote:
it seems there efforts with the 3DS was trying there damned hardest not to go down the tablet/smartphone route, hence why they used an (arguable) gimmick of the 3D much like the Wii's motion control.
Nintendo is becoming a sad conflation of traits. What they've done is combine their outlook -- basically standing still, holding back or looking in that same direction -- for the handheld market with their console business (wherein every piece of hardware is notably inferior technologically to the competition, usually by a full generation), with the added loss of any type of input integrity, gimmickry or R&D worth that used to be, at the very least, a talking point for their side against the competition.
Their hardware is second-rate as far as graphical/aural standards, then, and now is about average as far as gameplay methodologies.
A combination, if it is to be a company staple beyond this generation, that will almost certainly end their reign as handheld king, and may just be a coda for Nintendo as a hardware company altogether.
Which is to say, the Vita looks like a must-buy.
lol I quoted for the first time! Clessy get the fuck out of my head! I love Mario and the rest of the crew! However, the last big thing Nintendo came to market with was pokemon. I read a Popular mechanics interview with Miyamoto talking about focusing on the next Mario game. No talk of a new franchise or anything. Enough of this Swanson frozen video game shit! Just like mario kart........how many more Ocarina of time and Starfox remixes do we need? how about some adult themed ips Miyamoto San!There has to be a young gun in the Kyoto Boyz Posse with fresh new ideas. It seems as if Miyamoto wants to continue hogging all the glory for himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clessy
Oh yeah 16bitter! That vita is hella sexy! It looks like Sony is pulling out all of the stops this time.!