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When you get hit on you "hanging riis" or lower ribs, they take very tiiny little hairline cracks, this transfers into alotta pain and it takes a while to go away 3 weeks usually. Man I hate it when it happens, hurts just to make certain movements that should be natural or normal. Lotta milk is needed
I couldn't read a word you said, I was too distracted by the flickering mess in your sig.
Oh, the beauty of being able to turn off sigs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jax184
Thanks Melf
Milk does nothing for your bones, boy. Another myth to suck in gullible consumers and rack in cash for the dairy industry.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanceroftheShadows
It is however good for rebuilding muscle post-workout due to the protein.
I couldn't read a word you said, I was too busy having a seizure from the flickering mess in your sig.
Glad to see someone else that realizes this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olls
Protein, Calcium, Fluoride... GUBBERMENTS!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamahl
Keep your elbows down, and take Omega 3 EPA and APA supplements along with calcium. Also, don't fight people who are going to hurt you on purpose unless you absolutely have to. Your body can only take that strain for a few years and then you'll be as weak as your grandma.
By the way, weren't you banned for creating too many posts, or am I thinking of somebody else with very similar posts? I've been a bit forgetful lately so it could be either way.
LOOOOL, bring back TheEdge.Quote:
Originally Posted by JDB
Eh, Milk is mostly dead protein due to the pasteurization. Besides, by all accounts it's an unnatural food item. Milk is intended for infants, not adult creatures. In fact, human milk would be a more "correct" food than cow milk is, but it seems a lot of people get grossed out by that idea... But it's true.
Calcium supplements are a far better way to go. I take a few different supplements, like Omega 3-6-9 fatty acids, zinc, magnesium and a multi-mineral. It's about the only thing I can do to make up for the ridiculously poor nutrition I had through my youth, but that wasn't really my parents' fault. They said I was extremely picky. Kind of funny actually, since I enjoy a large number of foods now, ones that I didn't like before...
Zinc supplements hurt my stomach, I only take it when I feel flu symptoms coming on. Also, over the counter daily vitamins don't digest, and I try to avoid supplements with any caffeine like substances in them. Aside from growing our own vegetables and fish, we should be buying pre-natal quality vitamins and Omega 3 DHA supplements with at least 1500mgs a day of pure DHA. Then again, I shouldn't drink scotch, so what does it all matter anyway?
It truly is a pain everyday that I don't get to eat ribs :'(
Vitamins and supplements keep you in good working order. I know anecdotes aren't solid proof, but my old man is 54 and has been taking supplements forever. He is in fantastic shape and hardly has any gray hairs yet. Mind you, he also works as a power lineman, so that contributes to his good health.Quote:
Originally Posted by sheath
I've known for about fifteen years that our food, by the time it gets to us, doesn't have all of the necessary vitamins and minerals to maintain us. So I've been taking semi-premium supplements from Nutrilite/Amway for my entire adult life. I still managed to get injured from kinking my spine and I have plenty of grey hair though. I think it is a great idea to take nutritional supplements, without them I have no energy and my physical ability declines at an exponential rate.
My "natural medicine nutjob" (read: takes a ton of supplements) grandpa is 73 years old and looks 50 at most.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guntz
I should take some vitamins, my diet is rather poor.
You don't know what you're talking about. "Dead protein" isn't even a terminology, you just made that up to look smart.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guntz
Milk is the #1 muscle builder/restorer, because it is made out of whey and casein; two of the most important sources of protein.
And why should we listen to a special needs sock puppet, hmmn? ;)
sock puppets are peope tooQuote:
Originally Posted by sheath
Special needs sock puppets know more about nutrition than 19 year old 120 pound canadians.
Crap, now I'm intolerant. Well, I can work with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by JDB
What do you know about cabbage juice mr. sock puppet?
It's good against stomach ulcers!
Or any other stomach ailment in my experience. Listen to this puppet@!
I take a muti vitamin everyday, I usually heal pretty quick, this means I just need more training. Thanks for the input guys.
An unexpectedly interesting thread! I agree that cow milk is a strange, unhealthy food for adult humans. Yes it has calcium and protein etc. that are good for you, but it also causes strange problems. It drastically increases mucus production so you'll be blowing your nose and hacking loogies, after a tall glass of milk. It also can upset the stomach a little, and make u have to run to the toilet with the runs -- Some folks think milk does this in a "cleansing" way, but I think it's basically a short dose of diarrhea. I know EVERYONE doesn't have these symptoms from drinking milk straight, but I sure as hell do, and I haven't drank a glass for probably 15 yrs! (And I think a lot of folks have such symptoms without really noticing it much.) Also, for all the supposed health benefits of milk, there are probably an equal number of studies suggesting milk really is NOT healthy; I vaguely remember reading a study suggesting bone loss from drinking a lot of milk somehow, the exact opposite of the common view of what milk does for us (build bones etc.).
Anyways I've been a happy vegetarian for about a decade, and mostly vegan too -- meaning I never buy eggs & dairy, and I never make it a point to eat them, and I sure as heck don't rely on them for nutrition. But I'm only "mostly" vegan bc occasionally I'll eat cake at a bday party, for example (with eggs & milk baked in), so I don't always avoid such things 100%, only like 98%. lol
Also I strongly believe in daily vitamins, herbs, & supplements for the last couple years. Every human should take at least a mult-vitamin each day. Then there are optional ones like taking a vitamin B complex to get extra energy....
Valerian root is a good supplement before bed; it will loosen up / soothe muscles which are sore and painful... Plus it makes u sleepy and u sleep better. Maybe the OP can try it and it might help relieve some of the pain he's talking about, if some of it is muscular pain... Also there's nothing like hot showers/baths, plus stretching / yoga, to make ur body feel altogether better. :cool:
The symptoms you describe are only common among people with lactose intolerance. I haven't witnessed any such drawbacks, and I drink about half a gallon of milk every day.
It's common practice among bodybuilders to drink at least a GALLON of milk a day, so it can't be bad for you. These guys know what they're doing and have been doing so for decades.
Also, going vegetarian is a terrible thing to do to your body. I will never understand people that do this. There are no health benefits, only drawbacks, and you rely heavily on supplements to even get the bare minimum of nutrition that your body needs to function properly. All the vegan/vegetarians I know look terrible; pale, underweight, etc.
I take valerian and hops and holy basil/tulsi whenever I'm not sleeping well. Also, if I could I'd eat nothing but wild game meat, but that opportunity only presents itself to me seasonally.
mmmm, reindeer steak.
You know what helps stop rib pains? Not getting punched/kicked in the ribs.
Food for thought.
The only true answer, and it happened only after 28 posts.
< Chopped Liver
thanks to all that stayed ON TOPIC
^A half gallon a day of milk and I would be doing nothing but sitting on the can nonstop! :yuck:Quote:
Originally Posted by Olls
Yes I do think I'm lactose intolerant, but I think many people are without realizing it or really noticing it. I think there are also strange side effects for just about everyone, but that many don't notice -- I'm pretty sure it increases mucus production for everyone, just not as much for some folks as others. For me I have asthma so the extra mucus really screws me up worse than most. Also, I went my whole childhood without noticing / realizing I was intolerant, so I think a lot of people are probably the same...
Anyways, I'm not saying dairy is horrible to consume, just that it's a mixed bag of results. Yes it has protein, calcium, sugars, etc. but there are negative things about it too. Then again I personally don't believe humans NEED to eat food from animal sources, so if someone believes it's a human need, then such side effects will not seem to matter... Not to mention the growth hormones in milk, antibiotics etc. that get pumped into cows, but I guess that would apply for virtually all food from animal sources, and again, if you think the human body NEEDS animal sources, then such things won't make a difference...
^Well of course I flatly disagree with that, as we have opposite beliefs of human nutritional needs, it seems. There are indeed health benefits, and no drawbacks as long as the person eats properly. Malnutrition is not a problem just for veg-heads, but for many meat-eaters too who just don't eat well in general. And everyone should take supplements for proper nutrition; not just a veggie issue. Also, you'll have to trust me that I personally look great, not pale, not underweight. In fact, I'm lean and muscular and dark-skinned. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Olls
your lactose i can drink a gallon of D milk a day easy.
Anyways, they say its great for athletes due to the natural growth hormone contained in it
A gallon is sick though. I know you lift weights, but you don't look that big.
@Ecco: A picture is all the proof you need. I too would like to see a photo of quite possibly the only "healthy" vegan/vegetarian on the planet.
@Olls: DanShad could also have a small body type. That would more easily explain his small size despite his exercise.
I should probably start exercising too, unless I snag a new job that does that for me. I don't know if anyone else agrees, but doing some hard work or easy going exercise makes me feel great. I have more energy, I feel quicker and I'm more mentally alert.
ShadowHawk, I hope you get well soon.
Lotta milkshake is required.
He'll have to be careful with those, lest he bring all the boys to the yard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Curryman123
I heard that outside of the USA most of the world is lactose intolerant simply because they stop drinking milk as infants. I also read an article once that peoples in Europe can be categorized as "butter eaters" in the north and "olive oil eaters" around the Mediterranean. This seems to have something to do with world view as well.