So apparently console games didn't begin until 1983, and were all Japan's idea.
Printable View
So apparently console games didn't begin until 1983, and were all Japan's idea.
I didn't see a MegaDrive on that display.... It is the tokyo game show, so I doubt any of the people going there care any more about the old American consoles than they do the current one.
Honestly not to be a "hater" but, American systems sucked. Gaming wasnt even gaming until the nes. Japan has every right to claim it invented console gaming. Now I think America rules gaming again however. The xbox brand and iOS taking over portables. Only real competition coming out of Japan right now is Sony. I wonder how much longer till Nintendo bows down.
Vectrex says you're wrong. All hail the Vectrex!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Clessy
Bullshit! Ralph Baer invented the home game console. Jerry Lawson invented game cartridges, and Nolan Bushnell made console a fixture in homes in the late 70s to early 80s. What the fuck are you? Some kind of weeaboo? Let me guess, Japan invented animation and comic books too. To say Japan has the right to claim invention of console gaming, is like saying Henry Ford has the right to claim inventing the automobile.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clessy
Did any of the Western consoles back in the day even reach Japan? I wouldn't be surprised if Japan didn't get any consoles at all during the third generation (actually I lie, there's the SG-1000 which is second generation... but yeah that went completely unnoticed, and I don't know of any other second generation Japanese consoles =P)
EDIT: screw that, the SG-1000 wasn't out before the Famicom
Quote:
The SG-1000 was first released to the Japanese market on July 15, 1983. Coincidentally, this is exactly the day that Nintendo's Family Computer was released in Japan.
Clessy, did you fall on your head lately?Quote:
Originally Posted by Clessy
Gaming wasnīt gaming until the NES? Excuse me, but this is probably the biggest load of bs that has EVER been posted here on Sega-16.
I can understand if you do not enjoy games from before the NES came out, but that does not make the older consoles not count. The absolutely latest date of the start of console gaming would be 1976 with the Fairchild system; if you count systems without exchangeable games even earlier.
You neednīt like the games of the era, but you canīt ignore them just beause you feel like it. People today could just as well say that the first console was the Genesis because it was the earliest console to feature an FPS.
Wikipedia tells me that the Intellivision reached Japan in 1982. Before that though ther were also no-name-clones and dedicated sysems in Japan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sik
@Kamahl
Indeed, the Vectrex rules. Had a chance to play it once, a great little system!
Ok I see where you're coming from but, Gaming died and Nintendo bought it back to life. You also are being selective. You call me a weeaboo but, yet in my post I say I think America owns gaming right now. Im also a huge Xbox fan and I worked for Apple for 3 years...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bastardcat
Im just saying Nintendo popularized gaming, and Sony made it mainstream. Both Japanese companies. Gaming wouldnt be what we know it as today without them. Shit the market had crashed without nintendo gaming might have just been a fad that died.
A lot of them where imported over but, they where never officially released as far as I can tell. I remember reading a artical saying the MSX and the PC88 where inspired by american market computers of the time. So even if they werent out in Japan they where influencing them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sik
Yes, they should get credit for reviving it after the crash, but not starting it outright. Hence my beef with this revisionist timeline.
I think it has a lot to do with 3 things. 1) It's the Tokyo gaming show, I very highly doubt they give a shit about American history of consoles. 2) They're only naming flag ship system any way and have forgot tons of Japanese systems even. 3) Most of the American systems didnt come out in Japan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bastardcat
Gaming today is not in Americaīs hand either. The PS3 has almost as many consoles sold as the Xbox 360, it even outsold it years ago in Europe. Add to that the Wii. And the handheld market.
The hardware is still in Japanīs hand, but the software is where Japan lost ground rapidly in the last decade.
The crash only happened in the US, and it only happened for the console market (games on all other platforms were doing just fine). Considering it's an expo about gaming in Japan, I don't even know why Nintendo should be given credit for recovering part of the industry from a crash in a different region.
The 360 still has the most console moved over all in this generation unless we're counting portables where DS has shit on everything and, just done unbelievably well.Quote:
Originally Posted by 108 Stars
The 360 is doing well here, but not in Japan. It's a flop over there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clessy
The 360 wouldn't have been given a proper chance in Japan even if it didn't have the RROD problem.