I have a real big problem with that, atari 2600 was huge in the late 70's
and Clessy you're an donkey
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I have a real big problem with that, atari 2600 was huge in the late 70's
and Clessy you're an donkey
Erm . . . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by Sik
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_2800
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The Xbox 360 only has a small advantage over the PS3.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clessy
Xbox 360: 55 mio
PS3: 51.8 mio
With the PS3 being released almost exactly one year later.
And you forget the Wii, which despite being technically weak is part of this generation.
Wii: 87.5 mio
Basically the Wii is the winner in all regions, the PS3 has a slight dominance over the 360 in Europe, and the 360 a slight dominance over PS3 in the US.
But it was 1983, the system was released after the NES there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crackdown
They just didn't care for it. They didn't really care for any American consoles that were released over there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crackdown
I was just proving that an American console was released there, I never said it did well did I!
Also if you read the article you will see that Epoch were selling the 2600 in Japan before the Famicom came out.
Whoop de fucking do. Japan is the smallest market now. This isnt the 90's anymore. Japan is by far the least important market to own control over. US has the most sells then europe and then Japan.Quote:
Originally Posted by eddiespruce
Japan is still very important. They make up a pretty damn large chunk of console sales for PS3 and Wii still for being such a small country.
And it remains fact that the Wii dominates everywhere in this generation, and that the Xbox 360 is ONLY no.2 in the US market, but no.3 in Japan AND Europe.
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Originally Posted by Clessy
And yet, how Nintendo damn near drove the gaming market right back into the ground with their heavy-handed and strong-arm policies toward third party developers, rarely gets mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bastardcat
Thank you. I can't tell you how sick I am of hearing how nintendo saved the dead gaming industry. They didn't save anything. All they did was buy the entire market for themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Coop
Wow. That's just flat out not true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clessy
The Wii has outsold the 360 by more than 30 million consoles. And I'll be willing to bet my last dollar that the PS3 catches and overtakes the 360 within one calendar year.
But hey, go 360!
http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/s...sdisgusted.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Clessy
Goddamn you're ignorant.
Have you ever taken notice of the videogame historians in North America who seem to be oblivious to the Japanese market?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bastardcat
I always get a kick out of videogame "authorities" who fail to view videogaming as a global market/industry.
Heck the people over at Retrogaming Roundtable forum are some of the biggest offenders. They regularly talk about gaming as if only the US market existed.
I cant imagine Microsoft not announcing their next console next year. With the wii u coming out and being = to the ps3/360 graphics im sure Microsoft will want to crush Nintendo visually and get a head start on Sony again.Quote:
Originally Posted by InternalPrimate
Heh, it's funny that there are some members on Atariage that make similarly ignorant/inflammatory statements to the exact opposite of Clessy.Quote:
Originally Posted by 108 Stars
There were other 1st and 2nd gen systems out too, including native JP ones like the Casette Vision among others. None of the cart based consoles were very popular prior to the Famicom though. (Atari royally botched the 2600 in Japan . . . they should have farmed it out to a capable distributor in Japan, especially Namco -since Namco started out as Atari of Japan before going independent)Quote:
Wikipedia tells me that the Intellivision reached Japan in 1982. Before that though ther were also no-name-clones and dedicated sysems in Japan.
How about putting Clessy and Underball in the same dicussion and letting them duke it out. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by ApolloBoy
Actually, the 2600 didn't get really big until 1980 with Space Invaders (the first real killer app for the system, arguably the fist real system seller killer app in the programmable home console industry). It's interesting to note that many of the biggest hits in the 2ng gen market were Japanese arcade titles. (Pac Man, Space Invaders, Donkey Kong, Galaxian, Dig-Dug, Mario Bros, etc)Quote:
Originally Posted by KnightWarrior
The VCS was the most significant console in the US in the late 70s, but it didn't explode into the mainstream until Space Invaders. (Warner getting an exclusive license on that was one of the smartest -if not THE spartest- business decisions ever made, albeit they also made some of the worst mistakes ever in the industry -then again, Bushnell had made far more consistently poor business/financial decisions prior to selling Atari -to the point where Atari Inc had been constantly on the verge of bankruptcy, not a stable way to manage a company -interestingly the very same thing happened to several later ventures of Bushnell, including Chuck E Cheese, except that one actually did go bankrupt under him and Showbiz Pizza bought them out)
And Bushnell wanted to kill off the VCS over a year prior to that due to a slump in sales and perception that such a system couldn't possibly last more than 3 years on the market, that was one of the areas of contention that led to him leaving the company. ;) (Warner established the trend for milking popular consoles for all they're worth, something perpetuated -more or less- to this day ;))
Damn you are ignorant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clessy
The crash of '83 was ONLY in America. You seem to be completely unaware of that. Even if the NES hadn't took of in America, gaming would have still been alright. The focus would have just been more on computers than TV consoles and taken longer to gain stronghold in the markets.
All that coming from a guy who says he knows Japanese. Think you'd be a bit more global...