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I grew up with a fair amount of influence from the stuff he made, and was able to see some of the rise, fall, and re-rise of Apple. The Wall Street Journal has a pretty good write up here: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...210811910.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by Thunderblaze16
He made the Graphical User Interface popular. So unless you enjoy working on DOS, you should feel sad he's gone. Of course he didn't invent the concept, Steve didn't invent anything. He just took a good idea and made something awesome and practical out of it. He was an innovator which is different from an inventor. He's also responsable for the modern mp3 players and smartphones. Again, exactly the same thing as what happened with the GUI. He took something that already existed and made something awesome and practical out of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thunderblaze16
R.I.P. Steve Jobs.
Sad news. He will live while people remeber him. Brilliant innovator.
iPhone? iPad? Wota u toking baut?! Apple ][, VisiCalc, GUI, mouse and, yes, finally, iPod, your pocket medialibrary. It's easy to judge from today, but look back almost 30years.
Wow breaking news indeed. I haven't switched on the news or tv for a couple of days. Bit of a shock.
RIP Bud
Some people seem to be talking about how much they love there ipod-touch or the ipad thing but what can that ipod touch thing do that my toshiba satellite L455 can not do beside run slower than my $370 dollar laptop and make people stare at a 3 inch screen and burn out there eye's.And the damn thing does not even have a keyboard please explain how I am gonna type without a keyboard.Also for the ipad why the hell would you need that.The ipad is more expensive than a laptop and why not just buy a laptop see laptops have bigger screens that is higher resolution and a faster cpu than the ipad.The ipad doesn't even have a dvd drive how are you supposed to enjoy favorite movies oh wait I know you can pay 5 dollars to get a low quality .mov file that has drm protection on it so you can only watch it on itunes and quicktime.
I'm going to be the last one to defend that overpriced eyecandy pos, but clearly, you've missed the mark by a mile and need to look up the definition of "user friendly".Quote:
Originally Posted by sega16
There is a reason why a lot of computer-handicapped people use apple products.
Silly question....How is something without a keyboard gonna help someone type.How is that user friendly?Quote:
Originally Posted by Olls
Oh, you should feel sad... If you can't comprehend his contributions for HCI and HCC, it's OK.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thunderblaze16
But take a look at what we'll have from now on, without the "antidote" called Steve Jobs:
At least, Steve Jobs had good manners and didn't use to act like a dumb clown.
He was pretentious as all get out though.
Hey, its not speaking ill of the dead when its a fact.
Yup; sorry. Brain spasm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guntz
Will people stop crediting the man with stuff he did not invent?Quote:
Originally Posted by 80sFREAK
Douglas Engelbart invented the mouse.
Ivan Sutherland invented the GUI.
And the Apple II was mainly Steve Wozniak. VisiCalc wasn't an Apple product at all. The iPod, iPad, and iPhone were developed by teams. The CEO of a large corporation does not usually invent its products.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bastardcat
Jobs was a great businessman. He developed general strategy and product placement and so on. He knew what products to come out with and how to sell them. He turned Apple from a company that had flirted with bankruptcy into one of the largest corporations on Earth. But he was not a great inventor or designer.
I think David Pogue said it well with his article
Steve Jobs: Imitated, Never Duplicated
Sourced from: http://t.co/wfZiQdvnQuote:
Wednesday evening, Apple broke the news that Steve Jobs had died.
Since that moment, tributes, eulogies and retrospectives have poured over the world like rain. He changed industries, redefined business models, fused technology and art. People are comparing him to Thomas Edison, Walt Disney, Leonardo da Vinci. And they’re saying that it will be a very long time before the world sees the likes of Steve Jobs again.
Probably true. But why not, do you suppose?
After all, there are other brilliant marketers, designers and business executives. They’re all over Silicon Valley — all over the world. Many of them, maybe most of them, have studied Steve Jobs, tried to absorb his methods and his philosophy. Surely if they pore over the Steve Jobs playbook long enough, they can re-create some of his success.
But nobody ever does, even when they copy Mr. Jobs’s moves down to the last eyebrow twitch. Why not?
Here’s a guy who never finished college, never went to business school, never worked for anyone else a day in his adult life. So how did he become the visionary who changed every business he touched? Actually, he’s given us clues all along. Remember the “Think Different” ad campaign he introduced upon his return to Apple in 1997?
“Here’s to the crazy ones. The rebels. The troublemakers. The ones who see things differently. While some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius.”
In other words, the story of Steve Jobs boils down to this: Don’t go with the flow.
Steve Jobs refused to go with the flow. If he saw something that could be made better, smarter or more beautiful, nothing else mattered. Not internal politics, not economic convention, not social graces.
Apple has attained its current astonishing levels of influence and success because it’s nimble. It’s incredibly focused. It’s had stunningly few flops.
And that’s because Mr. Jobs didn’t buy into focus groups, groupthink or decision by committee. At its core, Apple existed to execute the visions in his brain. He oversaw every button, every corner, every chime. He lost sleep over the fonts in the menus, the cardboard of the packaging, the color of the power cord.
That’s just not how things are done.
Often, his laser focus flew in the face of screamingly obvious common sense. He wanted to open a chain of retail stores — after the failure of Gateway’s chain had clearly demonstrated that the concept was doomed.
He wanted to sell a smartphone that had no keyboard, when physical keys were precisely what had made the BlackBerry the most popular smartphone at the time.
Over and over again, he took away our comfy blankets. He took away our floppy drives, our dial-up modems, our camcorder jacks, our non-glossy screens, our Flash, our DVD drives, our removable laptop batteries.
How could he do that? You’re supposed to add features, not take them away, Steve! That’s just not done!
(Often, I was one of the bellyachers. And often, I’d hear from Mr. Jobs. He’d call me at home, or when I was out to dinner, or when I was vacationing with my family. And he’d berate me for not seeing his bigger picture. On the other hand, sometimes he’d call to praise me for appreciating what he was going for. A C.E.O. calling a reviewer at home? That’s just not done.)
Eventually, of course, most people realized that he was just doing that Steve Jobs thing again: being ahead of his time.
Eventually, in fact, society adopted a cycle of reaction to Apple that became so predictable, it could have been a “Saturday Night Live” skit.
Phase 1: Steve Jobs takes the stage to introduce a new product.
Phase 2: The tech bloggers savage it. (“The iPad has no mouse, no keyboard, no GPS, no USB, no card slot, no camera, no Flash!? It’s dead on arrival!”)
Phase 3: The product comes out, the public goes nuts for it, the naysayers seem to disappear into the earth.
Phase 4: The rest of the industry leaps into high gear trying to do just what Apple did.
And so yes, there are other geniuses. There are other brilliant marketers, designers and business executives. Maybe, once or twice in a million, those skills even coincide in the same person.
But will that person also have the vision? The name “Steve Jobs” may appear on 300 patents, but his gift wasn’t invention. It was seeing the promise in some early, clunky technology — and polishing it, refining it and simplifying it until it becomes a standard component. Like the mouse, menus, windows, the CD-ROM or Wi-Fi.
Even at Apple, is there anyone with the imagination to pluck brilliant, previously unthinkable visions out of the air — and the conviction to see them through with monomaniacal attention to detail?
Suppose there were. Suppose, by some miracle, that some kid in a garage somewhere at this moment possesses the marketing, invention, business and design skills of a Steve Jobs. What are the odds that that same person will be comfortable enough — or maybe uncomfortable enough — to swim upstream, against the currents of social, economic and technological norms, all in pursuit of an unshakable vision?
Zero. The odds are zero.
Mr. Jobs is gone. Everyone who knew him feels that sorrow. But the ripples of that loss will widen in the days, weeks and years to come: to the people in the industries he changed. To his hundreds of millions of customers. And to the billions of people touched more indirectly by the greater changes that Steve Jobs brought about, even if they’re unaware of it.
In 2005, Steve Jobs gave the commencement address to the graduating students at Stanford. He told them the secret that defined him in every action, every decision, every creation of his tragically unfinished life:
“Your time is limited, so don’t waste it living someone else’s life. Don’t be trapped by dogma — which is living with the results of other people’s thinking. Don’t let the noise of others’ opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.”
Stop mixing the up the words innovation and invention. They don't mean the same thing. I see that shit everywhere.
"Steve didn't invent the GUI or the smartphone or the...!"
"No one ever said he did..."
"But you said he was a great innovator!"
*facepalm*
This sentence sums it up perfectly:
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The name “Steve Jobs” may appear on 300 patents, but his gift wasn’t invention. It was seeing the promise in some early, clunky technology — and polishing it, refining it and simplifying it until it becomes a standard component.