Steve Jobs Has Died Age 56

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10-07-2011, 07:38 PM
MrX

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Originally Posted by profholt82

Look, regardless of whether or not you like his products, there's no denying the man's influence. Jobs ushered in the very idea of a home computer. Granted, he didn't actually invent many of the products he came out with, but he made them better and, more importantly, made them known. He didn't invent the home computer, mouse, graphic interface, mp3 player, etc., but he designed brilliant versions of them and made people want them. He changed the way we communicate as a society in so many ways. I don't think any single person has had a greater impact on the world the past 30 years than Steve Jobs.

What he said..

Oh and R.I.P to a man who loved technology and stayed with it as long as he possibly could. Very Sad.
10-07-2011, 07:47 PM
Bastardcat

Again, he did not invent the thing you are giving him credit for. He merely made it more accessible.
Home computing was alive and well long before Apple. All Jobs(With TONS of help from The Woz!) did was pre-package what people were buying and putting together themselves. You know what, fuck it? The dead man needs his ego stroked more. So for the sake of fuck all, he invented the fucking moon.
10-07-2011, 07:55 PM
Kamahl

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Originally Posted by Chilly Willy

I said there was no reason to compare him to real inventors, implying he ISN'T one. I guess you read that wrong. :)

No I read it right but answered poorly, I meant you were implying he was an inventor (which he isn't). Comparing him to Edison is comparing Apples (pun intended) with Oranges.
10-08-2011, 12:32 AM
old man

Man I know how Tesla felt. The company I work for is always taking the stuff I make for them and calling it "theirs". Fucking assholes. Then they go off and make a shitload of money off it. I mean, what gives them the right? :(

fun article on cracked.com that's relevant to thread derailment:
http://www.cracked.com/article_16072...-big-idea.html
10-08-2011, 12:41 AM
Chilly Willy

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Originally Posted by old man

I mean, what gives them the right? :(

It's the Golden Rule - those who have the gold make the rules. ;)
10-08-2011, 12:42 AM
Clessy

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Originally Posted by evildragon

You do realize you can in fact use keyboards on iPads, iPhones, and iPod touches, right?

Yeah you do realize that doing so totally proves the point of how fucking stupid they are right? Like once you use a keyboard and a ipad together you've just created a shitty laptop.

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Originally Posted by old man

Man I know how Tesla felt. The company I work for is always taking the stuff I make for them and calling it "theirs". Fucking assholes. Then they go off and make a shitload of money off it. I mean, what gives them the right? :(

Yeah its almost like when you work for a company and its your job to make shit for the company, that they own the ideas they're paying you to make. Fighting sarcasm with sarcasm!
10-08-2011, 12:45 AM
Bastardcat

I can't stand typing on anything that lacks tactile sensation of key presses. It just feels like I'm tapping my fingers on a table.
10-08-2011, 12:48 AM
Clessy

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Originally Posted by Bastardcat

I can't stand typing on anything that lacks tactile sensation of key presses. It just feels like I'm tapping my fingers on a table.

Couldnt agree more I fucking hate it. Its why I still use a sony ercison flip phone. Cause the fast way to type on a phone is still t9.
10-08-2011, 11:07 AM
sega16

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Originally Posted by Bastardcat

I can't stand typing on anything that lacks tactile sensation of key presses. It just feels like I'm tapping my fingers on a table.

Agreed!
10-09-2011, 08:02 AM
SF78

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Originally Posted by Kamahl

No I read it right but answered poorly, I meant you were implying he was an inventor (which he isn't). Comparing him to Edison is comparing Apples (pun intended) with Oranges.

Well, strictly speaking, he was. Jobs was the creator or co-creator of many products, such as these:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...s-patents.html

Now unless someone can prove that he just rubber stamped the papers, then those seem legit. It seems more likely that he had a more hands-on approach than Edison.
10-09-2011, 08:56 AM
Kamahl

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Originally Posted by SF78

Well, strictly speaking, he was. Jobs was the creator or co-creator of many products, such as these:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...s-patents.html

Now unless someone can prove that he just rubber stamped the papers, then those seem legit. It seems more likely that he had a more hands-on approach than Edison.

I wouldn't call any of those an invention, just an innovation.
10-09-2011, 09:37 AM
Olls

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Originally Posted by SF78

Well, strictly speaking, he was. Jobs was the creator or co-creator of many products, such as these:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...s-patents.html

Now unless someone can prove that he just rubber stamped the papers, then those seem legit. It seems more likely that he had a more hands-on approach than Edison.

Those are innovations, not inventions.
10-09-2011, 10:33 AM
sheath

I personally wish that companies like Apple and Microsoft never got involved in the industry. What happened to the idea of building one's own computer with all of the brand parts we choose? Apple, Microsoft, and proprietary manufacturers have spent billions making certain that people never bother to learn how to build their own machines. Then there is the whole idea of buying a phone that costs more than a fast new computer should. I've never understood how people justify doing that. Finally, why would I want a digital music player that won't allow me to back-up and keep music I paid for?

I don't consider any of these innovations. I consider them efforts to make certain consumers keep spending money on inferior devices they don't need while remaining ignorant to what the real possibilities are today.
10-09-2011, 10:41 AM
Kamahl

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Originally Posted by sheath

I personally wish that companies like Apple and Microsoft never got involved in the industry. What happened to the idea of building one's own computer with all of the brand parts we choose?

Thank IBM for being able to do that. It has nothing to do with Microsoft or Apple. Laptops aren't fully upgradable because the hardware is soldered to occupy less space. Same applies to iMacs. The Mac Pro is fully upgradable.

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Originally Posted by sheath

Apple, Microsoft, and proprietary manufacturers have spent billions making certain that people never bother to learn how to build their own machines.

It has nothing to do with that, it has to do with convenience, same reason why people don't want to deal with Linux.

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Originally Posted by sheath

Then there is the whole idea of buying a phone that costs more than a fast new computer should. I've never understood how people justify doing that.

The phone fits in their pocket and does most of what the computer does. Eliminated the need for a laptop. I still don't understand tablets though, other than a newspaper replacement in the bathroom.

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Originally Posted by sheath

Finally, why would I want a digital music player that won't allow me to back-up and keep music I paid for?

Blame the industry and/or piracy.

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Originally Posted by sheath

I don't consider any of these innovations. I consider them efforts to make certain consumers keep spending money on inferior devices they don't need while remaining ignorant to what the real possibilities are today.

People have better things to do than waste time tinkering with stuff. "Inferior" is highly debatable.
10-09-2011, 10:44 AM
sheath

That inferior tech comment was in regard to what we could be paying $500 for today and will be in five to ten years. Just looks at what kind of phones people already own in Korea for example.

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