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There going to be a new atari flashback console it going to be made by atgames who made the
sega genesis console clones
http://www.destructoid.com/atari-fla...s-210748.phtml
If you want to get it here's the site
http://www.blazeeurope.com/atari/ata.../prod_156.html
They also have it on amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Atari-Flashbac...001361&sr=8-14
I sure do love me some Atari. I'd consider buying that if the price was closer to $30.
We all know how it's going to turn out...Quote:
Originally Posted by johj1987
Atari 2600 Hardware is uber-simple. They'll actually have to actively try to fuck it up.
It's relatively simple to clone in hardware (though doing a conversion to modern CMOS ASICs took some work for the Flashback 2 iirc), but if they take the emulation route, there's plenty of pitfalls to screw things up. (and. of course, the original Flasback didn't use 2600 games/hardware at all, but an NOAC with ports of Atari games to NES hardware)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bastardcat
I was kind of hoping the flashback 3 would end up with 7800 support though . . .
Does this version of the Flashback 3 even have anything to do with Curt Vendel, or Legacy Engineering for that matter?
This. No go for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by kool kitty89
I just got into collecting for 2600 again actually after being given two consoles (A Light-Sixer and a Darth Vader).
The new Flashback looks cool but a bit costly.
Are you f***ing serious?! Just that fact alone makes an eventual purchase of this console a definite NO for me. F*** AtGames, I'm not buying any of their shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by johj1987
I agree. Everything AtGames makes is garbage!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace
Rep'd:)
This has been a hot topic on the AtariAge Flashback forum for awhile. While I would have preferred to see the continued evolution of the Flashback line (rather than another rehashed 2600), it looks like this will be a decent dedicated system for those who just want an easy way to get an Atari "fix".
http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic.../page__st__200
As I have the original hardware, I would not be purchasing such a unit unless it was dirt cheap. I did wind up buying a FB1 and FB2 for $10 each, and would likely do the same if I ran across this :D . Of course, I would prefer to pick up the new Atari-compatible console Legacy is starting to work on:
http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic...e-controllers/
-Rob
Seems pointless, you can find 2600/jr and a bunch of games for much less. Does that POS even run original carts? The original Atari sticks are already horrible and prone to fail after some time. Why would they even want to reproduce those?!
Nostalgia. But I agree they're awful. I use a Genesis controller on my 2600.Quote:
Originally Posted by SF78
This machine is of course not aimed at somebody like me who collects original hardware. It's aimed at someone who just wants to play a quick bundle of Atari games the way they played them back in the day without a hassle.
From your average consumer's standpoint these mini-consoles are attractive. They're(usually) inexpensive, and take up very little space.
I found a video of the Flashback 3(there is another version of this review, but this one has louder audio coming from the consoles, so it's easier to hear the games):
If my ears aren't playing tricks on me, about the only sound flaws I can see are slightly higher sound pitch and some slight inaccuracies with the white noise. The video appears to be a bit too saturated, but one thing which really caught my attention is the stuttering. Listen to the sound; it's actually stuttering, and I wonder if this has to do with the ARM core used in the Flashback 3 being too weak to properly emulate the Atari 2600(unlikely), this guy's capture equipment inducing stuttering or just shoddy coding on AtGames' part. Either way, I'm still intrigued by the Flashback 3. I will say, though, compared to any Geniclone AtGames has released, this thing just runs 'em all over. It seems much more faithful to the 2600 than any of AtGames' Geniclones ever could be faithful to the Genesis.
Still, this is an AtGames product, and if anything has AtGames' name on it, I will not buy it new because if I do, I'd be giving AtGames money they don't deserve, so the hell with that. The only reason I'd ever buy an AtGames product is either out of curiosity or just to show people and see for myself how awful their products are.
EDIT: Upon closer inspection, it seems as though some of the colors are a different shade than they would be on a real 2600. They all seem to be a bit more faded and more saturated than on a 2600.
Well, the Flashback 2 (and probably the 2+) can be modded with a 2600 cartridge slot...Quote:
Originally Posted by SF78
The Flashback 3, however, can't, as it's based off AtGames' God-forsaken ARM-based software emulation instead of a 2600-on-a-chip like in the Flashback 2 and Flashback 2+. Personally, I really couldn't care less if these plug and plays could be modded to work with 2600 cartridges as I have 4 2600s and a 7800 in perfect working order, but it's always nice to have that option.
For all we know, though, there might be a way to make the Flashback 3 work with 2600 cartridges. I don't expect it to be possible, but we won't know for sure unless someone tries to hack in a 2600 cartridge slot into a Flashback 3.
Just because it's the At Games doesn't mean it can't.. The Retrogen and Genmobile both use the At Games ARM chip and both can use real cartridges.
That's why I said we won't know for sure if the Flashback 3 can work with 2600 cartridges until someone tries to hack in a 2600 cartridge slot into the Flashback 3.
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Originally Posted by Ace
Well, if the Flasback 3 is related to this:Quote:
Originally Posted by evildragon
http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthr...-Coders-Wanted!
It would imply that that's not even 2600 emulation, it's 2600 games that have been ported to Genesis and then emulated via the @Games system. (which seems quite convoluted -why not just port the games to the ARM SoC directly rather than working within the limits of the Genesis . . . short of actually making a new 2600 emulator)
OTOH, Curt mentioned games that weren't on the 2600 (seemed to imply ports of the actual arcade versions), and he did refer to it as a Genesis on a chip and not emulation. (could just be a mistake though)
I do wonder why Atgames didn't use the FB2 ASIC, maybe licensing overhead. (I can't imagine the ARM hardware being cheaper to manufacture than the FB2's ASIC -especially assuming the latter could be made with generic gate arrays)
I'm little disappointed they didn't add hdmi to the atari flashback 3 console
Please tell me that you're joking.Quote:
Originally Posted by johj1987
No. And Atari nixed SD support as well.:(Quote:
Originally Posted by SF78
No. Atari did not want to wait for Vendel to free up time from the 7800 expansion module project, so they outsourced the project to atgames.:mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Guntz
No I'm not joking I wanted atari flashback 3. to have a hdmi because the Games will look good on a HDTVQuote:
Originally Posted by Bastardcat
Oh great, even LARGER blocks. Yea that's going to go over well.
Look, you can't enhance Atari graphics all that well, and if you did, it wouldn't be pretty. It's highly primitive graphics, and barely looks good even on RF.
I'm pretty sure he just wants to avoid weird artifacts on an HDTV without good SD support. (be it deinterlacing issues, filtering, crappy composite decoding with horrible sot crawl, etc)Quote:
Originally Posted by evildragon
S-video on the 2600 (and 7800, and A8) looks pretty nice IMO.
I'll take my pixels sharp and blocky (if that's how they are natively), thank you. ;) (wrong aspect ratio is a real problem though, and that's one area that annoys me in emulators -save for cases where the emulators output square pixels for games designed for such that look wrong on normally calibrated TVs, but that's never the case for the low res 7800/C64/A8/VCS stuff -all are stretched horizontally, not to get into specific pixel aspect ratios)
Since the FB3 doesn't have SD card support I won't be buying it until (like mentioned above) I can run across it for about $10. It'll be neat to tinker around with it and see what it can do in the next few years when I *do* find it for cheap.
This gamer was disappointed there was no SD slot, after all my trolling emails to AtGames :(
I forget how many emails I sent asking them to include SD support.
Breakout doesn't sound right at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace