Genesis vs. SNES: Game-by-game comparisons.

Probe unfortunately just seemed a bit lazy. The issue with the first MK port wasn't really the graphics for me, rather the masses of missing samples.

They felt the need to change the music too. It was actually pretty good, but not the arcade. They port MK to Mega CD and do little to enhance their efforts. Sounds are still missing and music tracks play on the wrong stages. Along comes the 32X, another lazy port this time of MK2. Rather than build the game up for the new platform with larger sprites and redrawn backgrounds to take advantage of the expanded palette, we get the MD version with more colour. You would think then that at least this time they would use the extra 8 MEGS available to shoehorn in the rest of the sounds, but no.

The Saturn arrives, Probe apparently still can't get it right with a ton of sounds still missing and the stage tunes playing at the wrong times. Despite having the capacity for redbook audio recordings of the MK2 arcade soundtrack, I believe they actually messed with those as well, so they don't sound the same.

Yeah, if we swapped the devs around the results would probably have been similar, just on opposite consoles.

Then again, Sculptured Software were no angels either. Just look at The Punisher on Genesis.

The controls bring about another question. Was it easier to program tighter controls on the Genesis, or did Probe have a better grasp of that than Sculptured?

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The controls bring about another question. Was it easier to program tighter controls on the Genesis, or did Probe have a better grasp of that than Sculptured?

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Didn't sculptured software make UMK3 on the genesis? It also has tighter controls than the SNES one so it's probably a system thing. Same goes to the Lion King for example.

i did hear megaman on the megadrive has slowdown and also there's a bit on strider when you face the monkey robot in the snow level so I guess it does depend on how well something is programed as compared the sonic games run flawless and sonic is a lot faster than snail paced megaman and the robotnic or eggman giant robot final boss in sonic 2 is about as big as the monkey robot in strider and it doesn't slow down the game

Well, Capcom have always sucked at optimisation. All of their SNES games are riddled with slowdown.

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Well, Capcom have always sucked at optimisation. All of their SNES games are riddled with slowdown.

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i think they knew they could get away with it, just as people paid for SF2 turbo and SSF2 which were pretty much the same game just with a few bells added on. In the arcade Capcom had upgraded to the cps2 but the snes and megadrive versions couldn't have taken that much of an effort to warrant 70 pound.

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it does depend on how well something is programed as compared the sonic games run flawless and sonic is a lot faster than snail paced megaman and the robotnic or eggman giant robot final boss in sonic 2 is about as big as the monkey robot in strider and it doesn't slow down the game

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There's slowdown in the Sonic games (tons of it in Sonic CD) , more so when there's rights flying across the screen. Also Strider port on the MD was handle by SEGA them self's and its much harder for the Team given the game wasn't built from the ground up for the MD.

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i did hear megaman on the megadrive has slowdown and also there's a bit on strider when you face the monkey robot in the snow level so I guess it does depend on how well something is programed as compared the sonic games run flawless and sonic is a lot faster than snail paced megaman and the robotnic or eggman giant robot final boss in sonic 2 is about as big as the monkey robot in strider and it doesn't slow down the game

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In the case of Rockman Mega World, Capcom outsourced it, and its just poorly programed, a real shame, cuz i love Megaman but hate that game. Its so broken.
As for Strider, well, its a port of a game running on a more powerful machine, so its hard to make it run as well as a game designed with the Genesis in mind. And it was programed by Sega, not Capcom.

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In the case of Rockman Mega World, Capcom outsourced it, and its just poorly programed, a real shame, cuz i love Megaman but hate that game. Its so broken.
As for Strider, well, its a port of a game running on a more powerful machine, so its hard to make it run as well as a game designed with the Genesis in mind. And it was programed by Sega, not Capcom.

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i think megaman was another backend the MD got, why they couldn't have just ported megaman X or maybe at least put megaman 8 on the MD and continue that way.

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i think megaman was another backend the MD got, why they couldn't have just ported megaman X or maybe at least put megaman 8 on the MD and continue that way.

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Yeah, agree. Personally i would have prefered an original take on MegaMan for the Genesis. As for ports, i would take Mega Man 7 and Rockman and Bass, instead of the X games. I prefer the orignal formula. I am not a big fan of the MMX series, save for Mega Man X4.

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Yeah, agree. Personally i would have prefered an original take on MegaMan for the Genesis. As for ports, i would take Mega Man 7 and Rockman and Bass, instead of the X games. I prefer the orignal formula. I am not a big fan of the MMX series, save for Mega Man X4.

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if you had a contra megadrive version of megaman with different branching paths that would have been quite good.

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There's slowdown in the Sonic games (tons of it in Sonic CD) , more so when there's rights flying across the screen. Also Strider port on the MD was handle by SEGA them self's and its much harder for the Team given the game wasn't built from the ground up for the MD.

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Do the Genesis Sonic games run at 60 or 30 FPS, by the way? I can't really find any information online and the scrolling in Sonic games does seem more "hitchy" on occasion than in other Genesis games.

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Yeah, agree. Personally i would have prefered an original take on MegaMan for the Genesis. As for ports, i would take Mega Man 7 and Rockman and Bass, instead of the X games. I prefer the orignal formula. I am not a big fan of the MMX series, save for Mega Man X4.

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if you had a contra megadrive version of megaman with different branching paths that would have been quite good.

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I'd be afraid of a Genesis exclusive Mega Man. The speed of it, plus the number of enemies/projectiles coming at you...

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Do the Genesis Sonic games run at 60 or 30 FPS, by the way? I can't really find any information online and the scrolling in Sonic games does seem more "hitchy" on occasion than in other Genesis games.

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All games before the 3D era run at 60 FPS.

Some games end up showing less per frame due to too much on screen at one time. Optimized programming can usually eliminate this, but even Genesis games were susceptible to slowdown.

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All games before the 3D era run at 60 FPS.

Some games end up showing less per frame due to too much on screen at one time. Optimized programming can usually eliminate this, but even Genesis games were susceptible to slowdown.

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Framerates, dropping frames and slowdown are all different things. Nearly all 240p/8 & 16-bit 2D games run at 60fps, but not all do (such as Wonderboy III SMS) and some have mixtures of elements scrolling at various framerates. I can't think of a single early 2D game that drops frames like 3D games do, but slowdown was common.

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All games before the 3D era run at 60 FPS.

Some games end up showing less per frame due to too much on screen at one time. Optimized programming can usually eliminate this, but even Genesis games were susceptible to slowdown.

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I'm not too sure about this. Here's Wolfchild for Amiga which runs at 25 FPS (which is half the PAL refresh rate). Note how slightly choppy everything moves.



Also, I've been playing Super Metroid and Metroid Fusion on Virtual Console recently, and Fusion definitely seems smoother overall.

Just looking over the 'ol collection, a couple of games that don't run to a rock solid 60fps on Genesis would be SOR1, Ranger X, possibly Super Baseball 2020.

There would be a lot more I would imagine, but most arcade ports and Japanese stuff are 60 frames.

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I'm not too sure about this. Here's Wolfchild for Amiga which runs at 25 FPS (which is half the PAL refresh rate). Note how slightly choppy everything moves.


Also, I've been playing Super Metroid and Metroid Fusion on Virtual Console recently, and Fusion definitely seems smoother overall.

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bad programing, but chuck rock was vary smooth and that was core design

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Just looking over the 'ol collection, a couple of games that don't run to a rock solid 60fps on Genesis would be SOR1, Ranger X, possibly Super Baseball 2020.

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Say, Super Baseball 2020 could use a comparison write-up. Are you up for it?

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Probe unfortunately just seemed a bit lazy. The issue with the first MK port wasn't really the graphics for me, rather the masses of missing samples.

They felt the need to change the music too. It was actually pretty good, but not the arcade.

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Agree that sound effects are the single biggest single let down of the Mega Drive version. Not having the screems, yells and grunts kind of diminishes the overall experience, especially during fatalities. I also do not attribute the lack of the above due to shortcomings of the hardware but rather lazy porgramming or cart size limitations.

The Last Action Hero

Case: C (games are similar but with significant differences)
Genre: Beat-'em-up/action-platformer with driving sequences
Verdict: Neither release is a good game, but the SNES version has less content and more frustration, so Genesis wins

SNES screenshots:

http://www.sega-16.com/forum/attachm...0&d=1404173964

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http://www.sega-16.com/forum/attachm...2&d=1404173980

http://www.sega-16.com/forum/attachm...3&d=1404173988

Genesis screenshots:

http://www.sega-16.com/forum/attachm...4&d=1404174163

http://www.sega-16.com/forum/attachm...5&d=1404174170

http://www.sega-16.com/forum/attachm...6&d=1404174176

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Pros and cons:

Graphics/Presentation:

Both ports are roughly in the same ballpark, though the Genesis version uses a simpler HUD that doesn't show lifestock (instead, the game displays the number of remaining lives at the start of each level, or after you lose a life). The SNES version makes typically gratuitous use of rotation on the title screen.

The game is too tedious and irritating to do a systematic comparison of all the graphical assets, but my impression is that some sprite animations on the SNES version may have more frames. However, this comes at a cost (see below). Some sprites and backgrounds may have a higher color count on the SNES, though the Arnold sprite is laughable in both versions.

Some odd graphical cuts are noticeable in the SNES version. For example, in the Genesis version of the helicopter sequence at the end of Scene 3, you fight in a rooftop garden lounge of sorts, but as you can see above, in the SNES version you just have a bare set with a black background. Another brief helicopter-related sequence in Scene 1 has you grab a chopper halfway through the level, but that's been completely cut in the SNES port.

Music/Sound Effects:

Both versions are lousy, so it's just a question of whether you prefer to be irritated by poorly-programmed FM or cheesy-sounding ADPCM.

Controls:

This is where things start to get weird. In both versions, Jack Slater has a basic punch and kick attack, but in the Genesis version he also has a kneeling kick (Down + kick) and a bizarre, standing bidirectional jump kick attack (Up + kick). For some reason both of these moves have been stripped from the SNES version (they're not mentioned in the manual). While neither one is especially crucial, it's still a strange choice.

However, I've just learned that the extra moves are present in the PAL/European version, which is bizarre and makes me wonder what else might be present in the Euro release.

More broadly, the timing and hitboxes of your moves feel totally different in each port. On the SNES, the punch has to be your main attack, as the kick is severely slow and laggy -- possibly because of the additional animation frames mentioned above -- and has a relatively small window. On the Genesis, the kick is quicker, both of your main attacks have more forgiving hitboxes, and you have the option of throwing in other attacks to keep things lively.

Gameplay/Level Design/Difficulty:

I don't know which port came first, or what the process of creating them was, but the Genesis version has a fair number of gameplay details that are totally absent from the SNES version. It's as if the developers of the SNES version decided to strip out almost all of the nuance from the game, making it as repetitive and one-dimensional as possible, and weaken some of the bosses as well. Here are some examples:

Scene 1 - In the Genesis version, as you approach the school, you're targeted by a sniper's crosshairs, and soon hear gunshots; shortly thereafter you come under fire from his slow-moving bullets, which are very hard to avoid.

Many people find this section of the game confusing and demoralizing, but there's actually a clever nuance: you're supposed to jump on the police cars to draw the sniper's fire high, then proceed onward after the crosshairs disappear. The bullets will travel harmlessly overhead. All this (plus the helicopter sequence) is missing from the SNES version; you can't even jump on the police cars at all.

Scene 2 (Bonneville Car Chase) - In the Genesis version of this racing stage, you're supposed to pick up three items to earn the super jump that lets you pass the wall of trucks at the end of the level. In the SNES version, there are no items to get, and the entire car chase is just a matter of holding right and staying in the top lane, only leaving it twice to avoid a couple parked cars.

Scene 3 - The helicopter boss fires an additional weapon in the Genesis version, but only fires missiles in the SNES version (at least the US release -- I think this may differ in the PAL version). In addition, the lack of jump kicks and low kicks in the US SNES version greatly reduces your options for knocking back the helicopter's missiles. That said, I actually found this boss a bit less frustrating on the SNES.

Scene 4 - In the Genesis version, you have to collect speed boost items to eventually catch the yellow cab and ram it into submission. It's probably the easiest level in the game, but at least you have to do something. In the SNES version, you can basically close your eyes, hold right for 30 seconds, and you're done with the level.

Scene 5 - Getting through this area on the Genesis requires the player to dodge a succession of bouncing tires. These are absent in the SNES version.

Final boss - His punching attack appears to have been removed, leaving him with only projectiles.

Now, all this makes it sound like the SNES must be a cakewalk, but outside of the driving stages, the truth is absolutely the opposite. The SNES version is definitely more tedious and frustrating, and anything it does to alleviate the player's burden is countered by a larger irritant. The SNES game offers a much longer life bar (20+ hits vs. just 8 on the Genesis) and timer, but enemies take far more hits, and tend to gang up on Jack more effectively, so it's easy to run out of time and energy. In addition, enemies are much more aggressive in the SNES version, especially the gun-toting thugs who become the bane of one's existence in Stages 3 & 5.

Worst of all, the SNES version eliminates all mid-level checkpoints. If you mess up that boss fight against the helicopter, or stumble late in the final gauntlet of enemies, well, congratulations! -- you get kicked back to the beginning of the stage.

Final verdict:

Could it be that the US SNES release was rushed out prematurely, and then refined for the US Genesis and Euro SNES releases? Who knows, but other than the helicopter boss battle in Scene 3 (and the now-pointless driving stages), every aspect of the US SNES release is more frustrating and repetitive, and the last stage teeters on the edge of unplayability.

Most people won't want to play this game at all, but if you're one of the few exceptions, the Genesis version is definitely to be preferred.

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Some great & detailled comparisons here, GJ!

The PC Engine must be added to the topic, it's also a 4th generation console (as well as its CD add-on; the SuperGrafx; etc...).

Also, another way would be to share informations we already spoted even on some games we haven't finished then, once we have enough of stuff, we will conclude. This will be teamwork based comparisons :ok: OK for this?

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Some great & detailled comparisons here, GJ!

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Thanks! For a moment I was trying to figure out how you turned my username into GJ, then I realized you meant "good job". :D

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Well, then things start getting tricky, and I personally can't contribute since I don't own or (usually) play the PCE/TG-16. I agree that it's relevant in general, don't get me wrong, but I like the idea of just focusing on the main battleground of the 16-bit wars, and three-way comparisons get much more complicated. But that's just me.

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Thanks! For a moment I was trying to figure out how you turned my username into GJ, then I realized you meant "good job". :D

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Well, thanx to you i added a lot of things in some of my folders & about some games which aren't among the most obvious ones = something i like even more! So even more GJ ;p


As for added the PCE in this topic, go emulation man, no problem with that (use Magic Engine). Sure the 4th generation is mainly that famous "battle" between MD Vs. SNES but there are a lot of other systems which would fit the topic, like the PCE or the Amiga. The Neo geo is another story (i had one back then) & would be kinda pointless here.

Just getting caught up with this thread.

Yeah, excellent comparisons of Last Action Hero and the Cheetos games. Nice work.

^Thanks very much!

FWIW I've also got Super Battleship and No Escape on my radar, as well as Incredible Crash Dummies and Wayne's World; we'll see. Obviously I'm picking the really super-popular heavy hitters here. :D

Do any of the Koei games have major differences beyond the color count and sound chip/music style, I wonder?

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Haha! Looking forward to them, regardless.

I'm currently working on a Madden '94 comparison, and will probably do Madden '97 too while I'm at it. Out of this World is another I'd like to do, time permitting.

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Great!
Talking about systems-sellers, i once started CutThroat Island as well as the two Bass Masters Classic games but i haven't gone far in the comparison of these titles yet...
Anyway, some stuff will coming soon.

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Air Management / Aerobiz's introduction is quite different from one version to another, dunno about the games themselves.
Then there's also Mega-CD versions of some multi-platforms Koei games which can participate to the comparisons like Genghis Khan II or Romance of the Three Kingdoms III.

Madden '94
Case: C
Genre: Sports
Verdict: SNES

http://www.sega-16.com/forum/attachm...1&d=1406685143 http://www.sega-16.com/forum/attachm...1&d=1406685127

Pros & Cons

Sprites and Animation

When it comes to player sprites and the quality of their animation, the two versions are more or less equivalent. Both versions are running at 30 frames of animation/sec. However, the number of unique frames that compose a fully animated sprite differs between the two versions for some sprites. For example, the animated sprite of a player running down the field in a vertical line is composed of 8 unique frames in the Genesis version. In the SNES version, that animation is composed of only 4 unique frames. However, every time the Genesis cycles the full animation of that sprite, the SNES version cycles it twice within that same time span.

What this difference translates to is an SNES version that looks comparatively choppy, but feels quicker and more crisp, and a Genesis version that looks comparatively fluid, but feels somewhat sluggish.

I obviously didn't have time to make detailed comparisons of every single animated sprite in the game, but I did examine a few others and it's important to note that the Genesis version does not possess a unique-frame advantage across all sprites in the game. For example, the animated sprite of a player running horizontally across the screen is composed of 8 unique frames of animation in both the Genesis and SNES versions.

As you can see, objectively evaluating the comparative quality of the sprite animations in each version of the game is not a straightforward task. Nevertheless, I think a case can be made for the Genesis version being the more consistent performer. It seems that most, if not all, of the animated sprites in the Genesis version are composed of 8 unique frames. The animations in the SNES version appear to be more variable with respect to both their number of unique frames and their cycling rate. Nevertheless, the overall impression I got when playing the two versions was of an SNES version that feels like it is moving at a snappier tempo than a more languid feeling Genesis version.

Backgrounds and non-sprite graphics

Simply put, the SNES version possesses the advantage, boasting more detail and refinement.

Music

The music in both versions sounds fine to me. I'm sure most individuals will have their preference, but I can't make an objective case that one version is better than the other.

Sound and Voice Effects

Beyond a single exception listed in the "Notable Differences" section below, the sound and voice effects are roughly equivalent. Neither version possesses a clear advantage in this category. The voice samples in the Genesis version are grainy, but clearer, while the voice samples in the SNES version are cleaner, but somewhat muffled. Also, hits and grunts sound "meatier" on the Genesis, but they sound more realistic on the SNES.

Gameplay

I've already discussed my perception of a difference in the speeds of the two versions, so I won't rehash any of that here. Some individuals may prefer the feel of one version over the other, but both versions play a great game of football, and in terms of core gameplay, the two versions are on an equal footing.

Controls

In regards to control, the SNES holds a distinct advantage because its 6-button controller allows every command to be assigned to a unique button. On the Genesis, the B-button has to do double duty, serving as both turbo and spin--turbo when tapped; spin when held. The SNES version maps these functions to two separate buttons, B & A.

In addition, when selecting a play in the SNES version, you can reset the formation or flip the play by pressing the R or X buttons, respectively. In the Genesis version, you must move a cursor and select an onscreen button in order to accomplish these tasks.

Notable differences between the two versions

• In the SNES version, team names and logos are displayed in the endzones. The endzones in the Genesis version are just solid gray blocks.

• In the SNES version, a crowd of photographers is gathered at the back of each endzone and their flashbulbs go off whenever you score a touchdown. There are no photographers in the Genesis version.

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• In the SNES version, the NFL and conference logos are painted on the center of field at the 50 and 35 yard lines, respectively. No NFL or conference logos appear anywhere on the field in the Genesis version.

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• In both versions, the offensive team advances the ball from the bottom of the screen towards the top. In order to preserve this orientation on a possession change after a punt, it is necessary for the game to rotate the screen 180 degrees. The SNES version accomplishes this task with a smooth "Mode 7" effect. On the Genesis, this change in orientation occurs in a jarring single-frame transition.

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• On every play, prior to the snap, the SNES version displays a narrow ribbon at the top of the screen that shows the game clock and the down-and-distance. The Genesis version displays just the play clock in a small box about halfway up the left side of the screen.

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• The SNES version includes an animated halftime show complete with parallax scrolling. Halftime on the Genesis is simply a return to the opening screen where John Madden offers a few generic comments on the first half of play.

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• The SNES version displays a receiver's jersey number in his respective passing window, making it easy to distinguish between a star Wide Receiver to whom you want to throw the ball and a third-string Tight End to whom you don't.

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• On the Genesis, the ambient crowd noise is just computer-generated white noise. It sounds like a 56k modem negotiating a dial-up connection. Conversely, the ambient crowd noise in the SNES version is a looped sample (albeit a very short one) of an actual crowd.

• In the SNES version, the chain crews are visible on the sidelines. In the Genesis version, only the yardage markers are shown.

• For some inexplicable reason, the Genesis version provides no indication of the wind direction on the coin-toss screen, making meaningless the choice of which end of the field you want to defend.

• In the SNES version, defensive players will occasionally headbutt each other after a big play. The Genesis version lacks this animation.

• In the SNES version, there is no pop-up animation of the referee signaling an incomplete pass, as there is in the Genesis version. In the SNES version, a whistle simply blows the play dead, and the game quickly moves on to the next play.

• When the CPU is selecting a play, the Genesis version doesn't allow the player to see what formation the CPU is choosing from. The SNES version reveals this information to the player.

• The play selection screens of the two versions are configured in slightly different ways. In the Genesis version, the playbook is displayed in a 4-column matrix. In the SNES version, the playbook is displayed in a 3-column matrix. Nevertheless, the two playbooks include the exact same number of plays. In cases where a formation is composed of 18 plays, they are arranged in a 3x6 matrix in the SNES version. In the Genesis version, those 18 plays are arranged within a 4x5 matrix, with two plays being duplicated to fill the extra 2 spots. In cases where 9 plays are in a 3x3 matrix on the SNES, the Genesis uses a 4x2 matrix and omits the "Stop Clock" play in that particular formation. I don't think it makes much difference, but given that fact that you can only choose from three plays in a single column anyway, I think the 3-column matrix of the SNES version is the more sensible presentation.

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Verdict

In terms of core gameplay, there really isn't any significant difference between the two versions. Nevertheless, one must acknowledge that the SNES version makes significant refinements to the game's overall presentation, and on that basis, it deserves to be considered the superior version.

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This can't be right! SNES has a better Madden game than Genesis?!?!?!?!

Tiburon Entertainment clearly favored and understood the SNES hardware, it's obvious that the Sega Genesis port was sloppy and that Tiburon Entertainment didn't take time to understand the Sega Genesis hardware.

Alright time to go a bit off-topic here, but time for some trivia and to go back in time a bit. You see, the average licensing fee from Sega on average was $8 - $10 per cartridge and good ole EA was NOT gonna have any of that, nope nope, so EA went ahead and succesfully reverse engineered the Sega Genesis, and pretty much commited industrial blackmail on Sega by demanding a $2 per cartridge and a $2 million cap on the licensing fee and left Sega fearing that EA would sell the the reverse engineered technology to competitors, so Sega caved and gave EA what they wanted.

Another dick move that EA pulled off was that because Sega was desperate for a Christmas 1990 release, which Mediagenic failed to make happen, Sega went to EA for help. Sega initially wanted the rights to John Madden Football and basically rebadge it as Joe Montana Football, but EA refused. EA pulled a dick move [though in the business world, brilliant move] by offering Sega an intentionally crippled Madden engine-based alternative that lacked a psuedo-3D playfield and very limited amount of available plays: going from 113 to only 13 and thus we end up with the original Joe Montana Football. I mean yeah the original Joe Montana Football was an okay game, but the original John Madden Football was the better all around game.

amazing topic i love this stuff!

One sugestion.. some games needs a deep look. Earthworm Jim is a exemple, md version have more voices samples, more fx effects and some extra level effects like the water stage thats have a nice effect of parallax derformation and etc..

Night Driver, please, could you make a comparison of the Peeble Beach Golf Links versions?

I'm working on a comparison between the Mega Drive and the SNES versions of ISS DeLuxe. There's a lot of fanboyism regarding this game and i wanted to give a fair analysis of both versions.

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Great game, the MD port is pretty good (to be expected for Factor 5). I would say the SNES version has slightly better music though, but graphics are on par.

Did Hülsbeck work on that OST?

I would make a Fatal Fury comparison, but it's unnecesary since everyone knows the genesis version is a lot better

edit: sorry for the double post.