PLEASE DO ANY THING TO TRY AND PREVENT THIS I DO NOT WANT THE INTERNET CENSORED
here is a great website with great info on why this bill is bad
http://americancensorship.org/
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PLEASE DO ANY THING TO TRY AND PREVENT THIS I DO NOT WANT THE INTERNET CENSORED
here is a great website with great info on why this bill is bad
http://americancensorship.org/
I've already contacted my congressman about my opposition, I urge others to please read it and make your own decision about whether or not to oppose this bill. If you agree that this is wrong, please contact your representative and let them know as well.
There isn't much I can do about this since I'm a Canadian resident, but I wish you fellows good luck in blocking this garbage.
Eh, any time anything even remotely challenges "freedom of speech" every activist group in the country goes nuts. There is no way an internet censorship bill would ever pass. I'm still rooting for some sort of separation from the Internet proper and all that friggin junk porn out there at the ISP level though.
But I like friggin junk porn :(
I'm not saying make it inaccessible for your kind, I'm saying make it practically blockable at the ISP level for my kind. ;)
I'm only human, if I had a nudy magazine under my keyboard at all times I would eventually take a look no matter what. That is what the Internet is right now.
Tell me about it... :| ... :huh: ... :bull: ...Quote:
Originally Posted by sheath
Exactly, and as a control nut and a formerly very self disciplined fighter it was always sort of in my face that I couldn't, er, lick that problem. ;)
This is seriously going to suck if it gets passed. I had no idea it was this bad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDX8Lyl16Qs
The internet will lose all meaning to me and probably all of you too. There isn't much we can do about it. If it were to get passed, would this place be wiped out?
The internet is too big. The Facebook crowd would probably find something to freak out about it, causing the bill to be dropped.
Threads merged.
A vote for Smith in 2012 would be a vote against such a bill. You people know the score: Republicans and Democrats can't resolve any real problems, but can join forces to allow such draconian legislation. Sure, under a Smith Presidency things would be just as draconian, but they would be draconian in a good way such as Raul statues, attractive women walk around topless legislation and mandatory wars.
Vote Smith.
Mandatory wars? No thanks, I've had enough of that with the Bush and Obama administrations. A vote for Smith is a vote against peace.
Vote Guntz for Prez in 2012. Stoners, drunks, sex offenders, crazies and all those other citizens can have all they want, but in restricted areas of the country (Ohio, Nebraska and California seem like good candidates). The deficit will be addressed with taxation of soon-to-be legalized contraband goods and the broadcasting of these restricted areas for national viewing, with piles of ads thrown on top for good measure. (cookie to anyone who can figure out who I'm para-referencing)
Vote Guntz. A vote for me, is a vote for a logical and ironic step forward.
I'm anti-mandatory war, and pro-mandatory shouting "PAINUS!" at the elderly.
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Originally Posted by Bastardcat
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"Heh?!?! Penis?!?!?! Don't work no more!!! Heh heh heh......"
Apparently Nintendo, Sony and EA really like this bill. I only see a few things as a slippery slope, but the Federal Government getting to firewall the Internet for us is definitely one of them.
Holy shit! That guy is like, the quintessential geezer! I must have an action figure of him!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cornholio857
Well Nintendo and Sony are idiots alot of times. Don't know much about EA, but I feel they're idiots, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by sheath
They didn't talk about Mirosoft
Didn't they already try to pass this bill or something like it a couple of years ago? I believe it was the "series of tubes" bill.
They have tried this crap multiple times.
Seems like they wont give up
Everytime it get's shot down..a new one pops up
Sadly, that's kind of how legislation works nowadays. There's always some Senator or Representative looking to make a name for themselves with a bill that they hope to pass that's "good for the US". It makes a great talking point at re-election time.Quote:
Originally Posted by KnightWarrior
One need only looks at the countless number of times videogame legislation has been introduced to "think of the children" that eventually struck down as unconstitutional. The state representatives know it and it just makes a good talking point at reelection, despite the fact they know it'll be shot down anyway and they're just wasting everyone's time and money :(
whoever in the senate or house wants to get this bill passed won't get my voteQuote:
Originally Posted by xelement5x
Yep,
This is exactly what communist China and other totalitarian dictatorship countries do to their citizens. Its just another way to crack down on people for illegally downloading copyrighted materials from multimillion dollar corporations who are too cheap to put in protections for their software so they get the government to subsidize it by being the internet enforcer, and to also censor opposing ideas so people are kept in the dark their whole lives. If a website has "anti-government" messages it will be banned from viewing, etc,etc.
My last job I worked in an office building and they have a similar program that blocks certain websites from being seen and used by employees. Problem was that Sega-16 was different and bypassed it somehow. Hence my constant posting back in the day.
Protect IP and SOPA are two different things, both of them bad. If you don't like freedom and can't raise your kids properly, then I can see why someone would support this kind of trash. But people need to keep tabs on what their kids are browsing (don't let your crotch fruit have a computer in their own room and don't let them have a smart phone. They deserve neither as they aren't even real people yet). Stopping online piracy sounds all warm and fuzzy, but do you really think the law would be contained to just that? Sites like Youtube, Facebook, etc etc would be gone. It's like the US WANTS to become communist or something as this is the same shit that China already has in place.
The liberals sometimes seem to want the government to protect us all as they cannot take care of themselves, but these bills are surprisingly bipartisan and have lots and lots of support. Nintendo supports SOPA. So does EA and Sony. SOPA has TONS of support. I have more fear of it passing and I am about 60% certain right now that it will, but hopefully it won't.
I have always been the naive fellow who believed that ideas are not limited to literacy or even communication. If an idea is good, people will come up with it. The only limiting factor is resources.
^Recorded human history is proof of that, especially in secluded places (and sometimes bad ideas crop up too).
The other issue is whether the masses choose to recognize such good ideas (and recognize them as "good" at that). And that's where ignorance and/or prejudice and/or sheer laziness, etc come into play. (not to mention established tradition and status quo . . . and other aspects of human nature -in modern society or otherwise)Quote:
Originally Posted by sheath
Or conversely, the issue of the masses following inherently "bad" ideas due to those ideas being championed by stronger resources. (be it compelling public speakers and/or money and/or established political power, military power, religion, etc)
Sometimes resources for public speaking/appeal (and related skills/resources) are used for good, sometimes not. (and, perhaps more than anything in out consumer-driven world, used for neither -ie mass marketing for consumer goods ;))
http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/Fuck_SOPA_Wide.jpg
With the global economy being inherently broken as it is, I'm surprised anyone gives a shit about "intellectual" property. Fuck that shit.
Guys, sites like Google and Reddit are protesting the SOPA atm so please make sure to sign the petition. Seriously where are risk here.
Tell every person you know, even if they're not a tech user, to go to wikipedia today and sign the petition. It takes less than 5 minutes to do so, and it's so, so very important. Already 3 senators have pulled their support for the bill, citing public outcry such as these petitions. This isn't the normal "do-nothing dumb internet petition." It's actually being heard, and every single signature counts.
US citizen or not, sign the petition. Sign the petition. Sign the petition.
http://americancensorship.org/
I'm trying to sign the petition, but it keeps saying that my postal code is invalid.
Petitions don't work, and I am 100% confident that our Federal Government is too incompetent to do anything good or bad with this law should it pass. Also, gameplay videos online are free promotion for games, these will definitely not be taken offline. Sites that allow ROM and ISO downloads might though.
Well I signed petitions for it but also actually wrote to my worthless Representative, the same fellow who actually publicly supported boycott of his own state. I think everyone here should do the same. I mentioned to him the time someone tried to claim ownership of piece done by Erik Satie that I used on a Youtube video. Nevermind it was public domain.
Heh, I handed the company with the IP address to a postal money order fraud, um, frauder, to my State Rep, the Secret Service and the FBI. They all said they were too busy to investigate and to get back to them if this "individual" stole more than $10,000. It was an eye opener, I even learned how to launder postal money orders in the process. ;)
Use this one: 90210Quote:
Originally Posted by eddiespruce
Lol, it worked!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by old man
What an igorant, selfish view on what this bill does. The outrage over this bill isn't about censorship, or stopping piracy, it's about the fundamental changes it proposes to the DNS system. Yes, even with DNS blacklisting provisions removed. Educate yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by sheath
The whitehouse responded to these petitions. These petitions got the hearing posponed. 3 senators have removed their support for the bill in response to the petitions. These are working. Inactivity is a weapon of mass destruction.
Well then, this is the first time since the internet took off that I have noticed petitions doing anything. I'd say don't fool yourself, there is too much corporate noise about it for it to pass as it stands, but then I'd just look ignorant and selfish again.
Everything moves in cycles, freedom of speech will lose at some point, and then if we don't completely wipe ourselves out getting it back, it will be had again. Then we will abuse it again, and the cycle will continue.