I posted about this in the Sam Sho thread, the MD port is trash. It's missing entire attack animations... Etc, but it was great to have them anyway. I just wish they would have been treated like fatal fury 2, which was kinda an amalgam of 2 and special. It became its own thing, and suddenly wasn't part of the "arcade perfect" discussion, it was just MD FF2. That was a clever way to approach the game.
Ah man, that kinda sucks. Kinda really sucks. I may have to change my preference now. Thanks for confirming that for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wesker
I'm sure the Genesis version has throat-slitting, though. I triggered it once by doing a heavy-slice combo with Haohmaru, although that might be the only time I've ever seen it. I guess it's just rather rare.
Oddly enough, all the arcade fighting game ports on the MD were always subject to a scaling back of this or that, and ultimately exist as just ports, but they can definitely be viewed/played in a vacuum, and in those instances, FF2, UMK3, Sam Sho, are just awesome. (Although I thought UMK3 was great regardless, that game was impressive and played really well, 4th gen port or not.)
This is one of the reasons I loved 4th gen so much, we could get close to arcade ports, but always just a step away, so the good devs placed the focus on the feel of these games, and THAT was what was important to me. The focus on pacing, the weight and motion of characters/enemies, the nuts and bolts of what defined the particular characteristics of a great arcade game could be recreated on the hardware. I freaking love that. That's why Sam Sho was so disappointing, it failed to capture a lot of that, where FF2, UMK3, SF2, Etc became great examples of communicating the essence their respective arcade experiences. .
Genesis SamSho does capture a lot of the arcade atmosphere (let's just put the missing animations to one side for a second). The graphics themselves are close to the arcade, and the blade-on-blade samples and hit FX are accurate, both areas are superior to the FF2 port IMO (IIRC Fatal Fury 2 runs in low res, this doesn't help the graphics at all, and it uses weak FM SFX in place of the PCM samples). Music is also kinda weak, about on par with FF2 I suppose.Quote:
Originally Posted by SEGA-Jorge
Art of Fighting: Colour use is extremely close to the arcade. Pity about the SFX and music.
Samurai Shodown for sega CD is same shit of FFS, lets keep de characters size , detail and animation and fuck all the rest...
Goodbye Kuroko, narration, backgrounds and etc....
Mega Drive port using a cartigde with 24mb brings alot more content from the arcade tham the cd version,
he wins hands down =D
I've never played FFSCD but videos make it look like much of the character animation is cut as well. That and Sam Sho were Scandinavian developed ports, weren't they? I guess Takara couldn't be arsed to do it. It's a shame, considering the hardware.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyron
Yeah, i'm played it now and some frames are missing. Crap shit port!Quote:
Originally Posted by zetastrike
That's interesting. I never saw it in that version and thought it was completely missing, unlike the dismemberment which is present with heavy flickering or so I remember. Truth is, I had the Mega Drive version back in the day but no longer have it, I still have to get ahold of it. I have the Mega-CD version though, so that's the one I usually play despite its setbacks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Assman
Takara never did anything for the Mega-CD. The Mega-CD versions of Fatal Fury Special and Samurai Shodown were handled by JVC, who tasked them to Funcom (you are right, they are from Norway and are still around) instead of developing them in Japan which would have been the logical step.Quote:
Originally Posted by zetastrike
Yes it has. It's more about the distance from the opponent than anything (strong attack with the sword + distant enough to just touch your enemy with the edge of the sword; not close). At some point I could pull if off very often.Quote:
Originally Posted by Assman
The Mega Drive version also has some cool options.
I did some tests with SS and at least i can improve the characters alot,
the backgroud i dont know if you guys gonna like the changes
but takara can be did a bether job with this port
http://i.imgur.com/KbZHFYb.png
The Water looks much improved! but the rest looks better in the original, I think.
I don't think it's worth messing with Samurai Shodown, it looks good enough. Your improvements on the characters are very nice, though.
I like the improved colors, my only gripe is with Haohmaru clothes, it looks....browner, the original looks much more closer to the Neogeo.
lol retrospiel we definitely live in different worlds ...
although I like the mega version graphics I hate the freedom they had to change the look of most of the characters,
some as Galford are far from original for example. Anyway, this green Ukyo never this for my flue .....
http://i.imgur.com/AASfF5J.png
Looks much, much better IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyron
The Haomaru's stage, especially the "night" version is superb now IMO.