Samurai Shodown (SNES vs. Sega Mega Drive/Sega Genesis vs. Sega Mega CD)

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Originally Posted by SegaSonic91

The MCD could have replicated the NEO-GEO scalling sprites with ease but as usual, the sprite handling chip was not used. All those arcade conversions by SEGA post 1991 on the MD with scabby MBIT sizes, still annoy the hell out of me. They should have been on CD. The fact that there are SEGA games on CD on the PC Engine and not on their own system pisses me off no end.

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From comments of coders and other guys with tech knowledge, the Mega Cd cant do a game with full screen scaling/zooming, at more than around 24 frames per second. The 3do port struggles running at a steady frame rate, and its really annoying. Hopefully, someone with more knowledge can comment on this matter.

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Originally Posted by Assman

I'm sure the Genesis version has throat-slitting, though. I triggered it once by doing a heavy-slice combo with Haohmaru, although that might be the only time I've ever seen it. I guess it's just rather rare.

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Just to prove it once and for all:
http://i.imgur.com/NLzdQi2.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/Njlbz7w.png

Both types of fatal finishes right there.

The thing with the throat-slitting one is that the enemy MUST BE on a standing position (not jumping, not crouching, etc) and NOT defending himself (which is hard to achieve against the CPU in normal difficulty or higher).
The strength of the slice attack doesn't matter, but if you're too close to your opponent you're likely to drop him down to floor (which breaks the standing position condition) instead of slice him.

I think the conditions are the same for the arcade game, and I find them very logical. To stand in front of your opponent while not ready to defend yourself is a fatal mistake in a sword duel.
The best way to pull it off against the CPU is to counter-attack them right when they're back to the stand position or to jump to their opposite side after they've already started a special or strong standing attack (this is how I achieved the screenshot above) and then attack with a slice move (the opponent will be, obviously, not blocking any attacks).

how i can select amakusa on sega cd ?

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Originally Posted by Barone

Just to prove it once and for all:
http://i.imgur.com/NLzdQi2.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/Njlbz7w.png

Both types of fatal finishes right there.

The thing with the throat-slitting one is that the enemy MUST BE on a standing position (not jumping, not crouching, etc) and NOT defending himself (which is hard to achieve against the CPU in normal difficulty or higher).
The strength of the slice attack doesn't matter, but if you're too close to your opponent you're likely to drop him down to floor (which breaks the standing position condition) instead of slice him.

I think the conditions are the same for the arcade game, and I find them very logical. To stand in front of your opponent while not ready to defend yourself is a fatal mistake in a sword duel.
The best way to pull it off against the CPU is to counter-attack them right when they're back to the stand position or to jump to their opposite side after they've already started a special or strong standing attack (this is how I achieved the screenshot above) and then attack with a slice move (the opponent will be, obviously, not blocking any attacks).

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Thanks Barone. Have to try that definitely, never actually triggered that finisher on the Mega Drive version and only experimented it while playing the Mega-CD version (several times actually, not sure if under those same conditions or different ones), so that's why I thought it was missing. Glad I was wrong.

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Originally Posted by Wesker

Thanks Barone. Have to try that definitely, never actually triggered that finisher on the Mega Drive version and only experimented it while playing the Mega-CD version (several times actually, not sure if under those same conditions or different ones), so that's why I thought it was missing. Glad I was wrong.

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Yeah, not to prove you wrong though. I searched through lots and lots of gameplay videos of the MD version and didn't find that finish move, so you have a point right there too.

I think the Sega CD version probably has inaccuracies which allow that move to be pulled off more often.

well i finish....
and you can see all 16-bits versions side by side

http://i.imgur.com/gRk2m1K.png

SNES version is a joke, Sega CD version is rubbish. Great work, Pyron!

I always laugh with the sprites in the SNES version, too bad Capcom didn't outsource SF2 to developers like System Vision.

Nice work! I like everything you've done with it except Haohmaru's player 1 colours. He looks kind of jaundiced.

Is there a post itt or otherwhere that goes through all the differences between the versions? Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Alianger

Is there a post itt or otherwhere that goes through all the differences between the versions? Thanks.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4ENYmSzxZY

I still prefer the Sega CD versions of SS and Fatal Fury because of how the stages and playability are more close than the arcade, even if they could achieve better results with more work.
Also, looking at all of this, the 4th generation is probably the reason of why Nintendo fanboys usually despise SNK games :lol:

Barone mentioned that Funcom was a shitty developer but and I guess I am being "logical" but doesn't Sega have QA testers? Like hey these voices are bitch scratchy can ya'll clean them up a bit? Or on the SCD version of MK uhm why are ya'll showing the SNES version on a Sega console. I assume as long as that shit boots up and plays then it passes QA.

And I am wondering why on earth are we getting compilations developed in the US and Japan. It use to be shit was bought here and it was simply translated and or edited. Isn't this an issue with DC SNK ports?

There is something seriously wrong with Galford's background. It seems to be missing an entire layer. I would be curious if it was possible to fix that issue.

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Originally Posted by SEGA.GENESIS1989

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4ENYmSzxZY

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I'm curious why people can say the Sega CD version is inferior? It lacks the referee but it seems the best by far, in every other way! (Loading times are worth it.) Best backgrounds, biggest characters, nice voices etc.

Genesis version is solid and the referee is impressive. BUT it lacks Haomaru's signature move -- his strong slash -- and that ruins it for me. This also seems ridiculous because it's only a couple frames of animation, which was obviously not some kind of technical limitation. Inexcusable for the central character of the game.

Anyway, why is the SCD version considered lame? I don't get it. :daze: