The PSX Vs Saturn Poll.

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Originally Posted by Da_Shocker

To add fuel to the fire rumor has it that RE2 for the Saturn was going to use the 4MB ram cart and was going to be better than the PSx version but Sony made sure that game never saw the day of the light. TR2, FF, and Ninja were all suppose to look as good if not better than the PSx version again Sony made those vanish. Then we had Wild'9's which was going to be better on the Saturn and it vanishes but we sure did get those shitty lookig ports by the bucket load.

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Please elaborate on this post.Sony stopped companies from making saturn versions of games?

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Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118

When you say FF do you mean Final Fantasy or Fighting Force or something else entirely?

As for Tomb Raider 2 I have heard that rumor as well. Didn't Sony buy exclusive console rights for it?

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Fighting Force not Final Fantasy lol

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Originally Posted by kokujin

Please elaborate on this post.Sony stopped companies from making saturn versions of games?

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Yes they bought up exclusive rights to multiple games. They would allow the PC version to still be made but Saturn versions nope.

I heard Fighting Force was cancelled on the Saturn because of Sega, not Sony.

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Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118

When you say FF do you mean Final Fantasy or Fighting Force or something else entirely?

As for Tomb Raider 2 I have heard that rumor as well. Didn't Sony buy exclusive console rights for it?

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Originally Posted by Gogogadget

I heard Fighting Force was cancelled on the Saturn because of Sega, not Sony.

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Doubtful as Ninja was canned too. Core use to be a huge Sega supporter back in the day and all of the sudden that changed when Sony started to flash dollars there way.

If I remember rightly, it was due to Fighting Force apparently being an SOR4 beta, but the developers we're more interested in a multi-platform release and canned the Saturn version entirely when Sega weren't having it.

Of course, pinch of salt, etc.

I remember an interview with the two main founding members of Core that described the exclusivity contract with Sony, starting with Tomb Raider II, as the reason why they left the company for greener pastures.

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Originally Posted by Gogogadget

If I remember rightly, it was due to Fighting Force apparently being an SOR4 beta, but the developers we're more interested in a multi-platform release and canned the Saturn version entirely when Sega weren't having it.

Of course, pinch of salt, etc.

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Sega only declined their offer to buy it and market it as SOR4. Core was free to publish it with anyone until Sony paid them off for exclusivity of all their games. It was a good business strategy on Sony's part, just as it was for Nintendo to keep companies from publishing on rival platforms and EA securing the Madden license.

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Originally Posted by Gogogadget

I heard Fighting Force was cancelled on the Saturn because of Sega, not Sony.

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Fighting Force was originally going to be Streets of Rage 4. When the developers wanted to make it multiplatform Sega pulled the Streets of Rage license. That's it. They didn't prevent the game from being released. The game was still slated for a release and I think it might have actually been reviewed in some Saturn Magazines. And then it just disappeared.

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Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118

Resident Evil 2 was planned and being developed for the Saturn. The only reason it didn't come out was because the Dreamcast came out and Capcom decided to move development over to the Dreamcast. If Dreamcast hadn't come out for another year or so we probably would have seen Resident Evil 2 on Saturn, and possibly even Resident Evil 3. At the very least we would have probably seen RE2 as a Japanese Release.

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You are correct except it's not really accurate to say they "moved development over to the Dreamcast". They canceled the Saturn version due to the death of the console, released it as a PSX exclusive, then made a Dreamcast port two years later. The Dreamcast port, while well-done, was very much an afterthought.

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Originally Posted by Da_Shocker

To add fuel to the fire rumor has it that RE2 for the Saturn was going to use the 4MB ram cart and was going to be better than the PSx version but Sony made sure that game never saw the day of the light. TR2, FF, and Ninja were all suppose to look as good if not better than the PSx version again Sony made those vanish. Then we had Wild'9's which was going to be better on the Saturn and it vanishes but we sure did get those shitty lookig ports by the bucket load.

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Sony did make the Core/Eidos games vanish but I don't think Sony had anything to do with the others. With Core/Eidos it was a global agreement, not for any particular games. This is why the Saturn version of Swagman was only released in Europe, because the agreement took effect right around that time (Sony certainly didn't particularly care about that game).

FF was originally to be SOR4 but I really doubt it ever made it to the beta stage as SOR4. The Saturn version of Fighting Force was canned pretty late, as evidenced by the beta that was leaked a while back, plus it was also featured on a Saturn demo disc in Europe. The final game was widely considered a disappointment anyway, with a lot of cuts to wrap it up quick.

Yeah, if Fighting Force was indeed SOR4, I think alot of people would of been bitterly disapointed, I played Fighting Force on Playstation after learning about the SOR4 liscence, even from someone who throughly enjoyed SOR3, I didn't like it.

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Originally Posted by Gogogadget

Yeah, if Fighting Force was indeed SOR4, I think alot of people would of been bitterly disapointed, I played Fighting Force on Playstation after learning about the SOR4 liscence, even from someone who throughly enjoyed SOR3, I didn't like it.

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what I meant is that Fighting Force was considered a disappointment disregarding the SOR4 connection. The previews of Fighting Force (under that name) made it look awesome. Hell, back in the day when I mentioned getting the game on some old message board, I got a lot of responses that said "lol the demo was better than the game". And they were basically right, as there's stuff in the demo that's not in the game.

If Sega let Fighting Force come out as Streets of Rage 4 it would have been horrible. Die Hard Arcade was a much better game in every possible way, and it wasn't even close to being a sensation anyway.

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Originally Posted by j_factor

You are correct except it's not really accurate to say they "moved development over to the Dreamcast". They canceled the Saturn version due to the death of the console, released it as a PSX exclusive, then made a Dreamcast port two years later. The Dreamcast port, while well-done, was very much an afterthought.

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http://www.gamespot.com/news/2465273.html

It was canceled in late 1998. The Dreamcast port came out a year later. They mention canceling it to do Code Veronica, but I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't also move what bit of Saturn RE2 they had to the Dreamcast

I thought the DC version was a port of the PC version? I get wet dreams thiknig about how a 4MB ram cart, 4 player SoR4 could've turned out. I'm sure we could've easily gotten at least 10 enemies on screen with 4 player co-op!!!!

The Dreamcast version of Resident Evil 2 was a port of the PC game and was released late in 2000. Resident Evil 3 may have been released a month earlier for Dreamcast, but still in 2000 and it was still a PC port.