Is It Me, or Does the Nintendo 64 SUCK?!

I don't one own but about 4 days ago I actually just heard of them as well as tried them at this local Play N Trade of mind for the first time and I gotta say. Not only is does it have a MUCH more comfortable grip to it, it just feels more responsive and with such a high quality made into these little fuckers. There really worth checking out, but I'm a snes and genesis man atm, lol.

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Originally Posted by shinobimusashi

a majority of the "5 Star" games are criminally overrated.

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I agree with you, unfortunately the majority of the 4 star games are criminally underrated though, so it kinda' balances out all in all.

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Originally Posted by combofriend

Without mentioning any names, I have indeed noticed that at this forum even some members of the staff spew hate and disrespect and belittle other people's opinions just like your two friends in this thread. Fuck the whole place, I'm gone. Sorry to those that were hoping I would entertain them.

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Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out! You want to go blow up and throw temper tantrums, go somewhere else.

To be fair, the Gamecube-style control stick doesn't have the same butter smooth yet subtly resistant play and feel that a new N64 control stick has. Also, that stick doesn't have such a hard and stiff circle of resistance around the dead zone like the PS1/2/3, GC and Xbox control sticks all have. While the metal/GC-style control sticks you can get for N64 pretty much never wear out, it's hard to say they offer as good a feel as a new, well greased official N64 control stick.

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Originally Posted by Hidden_Darkness

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I'm going to second this controller. Feels very comfortable and both the D-Pad and analog stick are placed nicely. Also rather inexpensive compared to the Hori pad. I see a few on ebay for ~$25 BIN. If anyone is looking for a good, affordable 3rd party N64 controller, this is the one.

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Originally Posted by Guntz

To be fair, the Gamecube-style control stick doesn't have the same butter smooth yet subtly resistant play and feel that a new N64 control stick has. Also, that stick doesn't have such a hard and stiff circle of resistance around the dead zone like the PS1/2/3, GC and Xbox control sticks all have. While the metal/GC-style control sticks you can get for N64 pretty much never wear out, it's hard to say they offer as good a feel as a new, well greased official N64 control stick.

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thats usually what I hear about the cube style replacement sticks, i've also heard their overly sensitive in some games so I haven't bought one yet because of the mixed opinions. i'll have to take your advice on greasing the control stick on my official 64 controllers, luckly the sticks arn't worn out on mine but I want to preserve them.

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Originally Posted by Baloo

I'm going to second this controller. Feels very comfortable and both the D-Pad and analog stick are placed nicely. Also rather inexpensive compared to the Hori pad. I see a few on ebay for ~$25 BIN. If anyone is looking for a good, affordable 3rd party N64 controller, this is the one.

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yes the superpad 64 is a great controller, I like how it feels more like a traditional controller and its quite comfortable to use. the thumbstick on mine finally wore out after owning it for over 12 years though :(

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Originally Posted by Thunderblaze16

I don't one own but about 4 days ago I actually just heard of them as well as tried them at this local Play N Trade of mind for the first time and I gotta say. Not only is does it have a MUCH more comfortable grip to it, it just feels more responsive and with such a high quality made into these little fuckers. There really worth checking out, but I'm a snes and genesis man atm, lol.

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i've never seen one of those hori mini controllers in person, they do look like a huge improvement over the nintendo branded 64 controllers. are they selling any at your play n trade?

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Originally Posted by Hidden_Darkness

thats usually what I hear about the cube style replacement sticks, i've also heard their overly sensitive in some games so I haven't bought one yet because of the mixed opinions. i'll have to take your advice on greasing the control stick on my official 64 controllers, luckly the sticks arn't worn out on mine but I want to preserve them.

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Pretty much any plastic-safe grease or lube should be okay. I've heard using RC car plastic-gear type grease is a logical choice, though I've been using a silicon-based lube for quite some time and it's been quite good. Only one little issue though when using a more liquid lube... If you put too much in there, it can get on the interface PCB which will cause the control stick to function wrong. I've never had one die one me, they always work after being cleaned up.

My P-N-T has them sold out at the moment but they sell them pretty much the same price as on eBay.

Quality over quantity I suppose. I love the N64.

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Originally Posted by DarkDragon

Yeah but English probably isnt the 1st language of whoever started it.

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Yep! sorry for the grammar, Im mexican so I speak spanish and Im really doing my best with the english xd so please if you dont mind correct my mistakes and help me to improve.. who knows? maybe I can teach you one or two things about spanish pal! n.n

well maybe the 64 isnt my favorite console but it really had his "gems" check "sin and punishment" for the 64 it wasnt released in america but that was an AWESOME game made by TREASURE so you can be sure that its going to be a great game!

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Originally Posted by Guntz

To be fair, the Gamecube-style control stick doesn't have the same butter smooth yet subtly resistant play and feel that a new N64 control stick has. Also, that stick doesn't have such a hard and stiff circle of resistance around the dead zone like the PS1/2/3, GC and Xbox control sticks all have. While the metal/GC-style control sticks you can get for N64 pretty much never wear out, it's hard to say they offer as good a feel as a new, well greased official N64 control stick.

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I've got to agree. No other stick matches the feel of the N64's. Everyone else's have a fatty feel to them. Part of this is probably because of the internal button that have been standard since the Dual Shock.

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Originally Posted by WarmSignal

Quality over quantity I suppose. I love the N64.

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Nintendo used that phrase if I recall. Too bad they never bothered to follow it though, as the N64 wound up getting a fair bit of garbage titles like all the other consoles... just at a slower pace.

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Originally Posted by Thenewguy

Doesn't change what he said, the Atari machines didn't "set the standard", because 4 controller ports didn't become standard after the release of those systems.

I think we can safely say that Xbox and DC were inspired by N64 to put 4 ports into their console, and that Nintendo were possibly inspired by Atari (being that the N64 also had the Vectrex's analogue thumbsticks I think its safe to say that during the design of the N64 Nintendo may have actively looked into videogame ideas which didn't take off, to see if they could be re-worked).

I don't think that lessens their achievement with the N64, it was still important that they saw the potential in those ideas and took the chance to bring them back into the public eye, many companies are happy to never try anything new (or forgotten) and just go through the motions whilst letting others take risks.

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right, just mentioning 5200 so it isn't overlooked or forgotten.

Multiplayer on home consoles obviously was around plenty before the n64, it was nice that nintendo brought it back to being integral on the console design.

As an aside, I think it could be argued that PC-Engine set the bar for "more than 2-player" games.

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Originally Posted by The Coop

Nintendo used that phrase if I recall. Too bad they never bothered to follow it though, as the N64 wound up getting a fair bit of garbage titles like all the other consoles... just at a slower pace.

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N64's good game ratio based on critical reviews is probably like 35%-40% which is actually pretty good, most consoles are much lower than that (albeit I'm pretty sure the Dreamcast had over 50%).

Also a lot of the games which were hated by magazines back in the day were scored low for being "too retro", Robotron 64 for instance was panned but is fairly well liked these days.