The Xbox also has the best version of Psychonauts! But the Gamecube had the best version of RE4, and still has the best version of Killer 7
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The Xbox also has the best version of Psychonauts! But the Gamecube had the best version of RE4, and still has the best version of Killer 7
With the Xbox version, you need a Live account to play offline. And only Gamecube has the "Plus" version which has extra content.Quote:
Originally Posted by Black_Tiger
Not anymore. The Xbox version is as useful as a coaster now. Without Xbox Live you can't even play offline mode. Gamecube you can still do everything, including Online Mode.Quote:
Originally Posted by Black_Tiger
There's a reason the Xbox version costs less than the cost to ship it and the Gamecube Version costs upwards of $100 or more right now.
Not true. I fired it up to see if it still works. I opened up Episode one and everything still appeared to be working fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118
That certainly is not true. First, you can't even PLAY the Xbox version anymore unless you have a hacked Xbox. Second, there's no more complete, bug-fixed version, like PSO I&II Plus available (except maybe via hacked systems? I'm not sure, probably not even there). And third, you can't play the Xbox version online, hacked system or not. You can connect either Gamecube version to the Schthack servers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Black_Tiger
So yeah... no. GC PSO I&II is significantly better.
Then you must have a hacked Xbox or something. Xbox PSO links your character data to your Xbox Live account. Without being able to sign into Xbox Live, you can't get your character data, therefore you can't do anything if I remember correctly. There's a reason theres offline mode patches for Xbox PSO to allow you to play it without Xbox Live on a hacked Xbox.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
I'm pretty sure you don't have to sign into Xbox Live. Your character data is linked to your Xbox Live account, but that information is also saved locally. The game required Xbox Live but it didn't require that you always play online. He is still able to play it because years ago, he had both the game and Xbox Live, and set up his profile back then. Anybody newly acquiring the game today would require the hack.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118
You're not acknowledging how MP, in many cases, sells these games. That's the reality of things.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118
Have you played the Wii? If so, you have to agree the multiplayer component is extremely minimal at best. It seems to be an after thought in most cases and is not a focal point of this system as it is for the others. Understand? What you get is an extremely dumbed down version that makes you wonder if you are playing an actual human being or the computer. In summation, although some systems rely heavily on the internet component, the Wii is extremely iminor in this respect.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118
Which doesn't make them exclusives, by definition. It made then exclusives (past tense), and it made them exclusives for an insignificant amount of time (less than even a year).Quote:
Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118
Those games were not seen as exclusives even when they came out, the Gamecube owners went on about how Resident Evil 4 was an exclusive, and that it was going to change the fortunes of the Gamecube, then before it was even released on Gamecube, it was announced for PS2, at which point the Gamecube owners fell silent, and hoped everybody had forgotten about what had been said, which did not happen, as Gamecube owners were a laughing stock for like 2 weeks as everybody they'd mentioned it to took the piss out of them, you forget, I was on the Gamecube side at the time, luckily I've never been one to gloat (at least not in everyday life), so I didn't get half as much flack as the others.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118
Brand name is not a good argument for Double Dash IMO, I know mainstreamers love to have their authentic IPods and what not, but I'm more interested in gameplay merit.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118
and seriously, WTF is up with all the mentionings of Kirby's Airride recently? that game is awful, and Mario Party has barely changed since the N64 days! I kid you not I went to a New Years Eve party once, and it was someone's bright idea to put on Mario Party, within 40 minutes the party had died, and the place had been cleared out!
Playing Mario Party, at a party, is nearly as depressing as watching kittens die.
If you're going by present time, where most exclusives have been whored out, then you also have to consider that a N64 game that was once considered an 8 or 9, would now score much lower. Case in point, Goldeneye has not aged well, Turok has not aged well, Blast Corps has not aged well and even though the gameplay was pretty uniqued back then, it's not as fun as when it came out. I'd much rather play a first person shooter like Bullet Storm or Crysis 2, over something like Perfect Dark or Golden Eye, and don't even get me started on Turok.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thenewguy
What was that, the school yard? :lol:Quote:
Those games were not seen as exclusives even when they came out, the Gamecube owners went on about how Resident Evil 4 was an exclusive, and that it was going to change the fortunes of the Gamecube, then before it was even released on Gamecube, it was announced for PS2, at which point the Gamecube owners fell silent, and hoped everybody had forgotten about what had been said, which did not happen, as Gamecube owners were a laughing stock for like 2 weeks as everybody they'd mentioned it to took the piss out of them, you forget, I was on the Gamecube side at the time, luckily I've never been one to gloat (at least not in everyday life), so I didn't get half as much flack as the others.
Seriously, the average consumer had no idea that Resident Evil 4 was coming out to PS2. I'd imagine some kid is at Walmart and sees Resident Evil 4 on the Gamecube and notices it isn't on the PS2. What do you think the kid is going to ask his parents to get him?
Those games are very early N64 titles, they hadn't even aged well by the end of the generation, The World is Not Enough was better than Goldeneye in literally all aspects apart from the multiplayer, it had better graphics, it had a better frame-rate, it had more complex missions, and it didn't have time consuming lets-run-around-lost-in-the-snow missions, the reason Goldeneye is brought up is because of its impact, not anything else, by the end of that generation I couldn't give a rats ass about Goldeneye, I was too busy playing better N64 first person shooters like Perfect Dark, and TWINE.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
Not to say Goldeneye is any more dated than any fps game on PS1 or Saturn though, against that stuff it still holds up well.
You can say this about pretty much any retro game, not just first person shooters, seriously, at the top of the list of "dated" is always going to be sports games regardless, but then after that, if anything its a lot of the driving sims on PS1 which I find to be dated, and redundant, I respect Colin McRae, Jarrett and Labont, Gran Turismo etc, but I really don't find them that fun to play anymore, on top of that a whole ton of the fighting games, whilst still fun, have gone through multiple updates since then, and many are now pretty much redundant to their own sequels.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
Blast Corps has aged better than virtually every game that generation, because it has a unique premise, and original gameplay, I can't think of any games out now which are anything like Blast Corps, and unlike a lot of the N64 games being criticised, Blast Corps is also fairly smooth in frame rate which also holds it in good stead now.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
College actually (albeit college for us starts at 16-17), and it was quite late on in college too, as I'm sure the Gamecube itself came out after I started college, and RE4 was quite a late release.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
and yeah, sure it was childish, but PS2 owners (ie the majority of students) wouldn't shut up about how awful the Gamecube was, and how it was for children, so when Resident Evil 4 was announced, and PS2 owners who'd expected it to be on Playstation were annoyed, unfortunately a lot of the Gamecube owners made a big deal out of it, and it came back to bite them on the ass.
I find it hard to believe that the US could be so ridiculously out of touch with whats going on in the gaming industry for this to be the truth, in Britain anyone interested in videogames knew that Resident Evil 4 was coming out on PS2, RE4's so called "exclusivity" was very high profile at the time, people were talking about buying Gamecubes just so they could get Resident Evil 4, then the whole thing fell apart before RE4 even came out so they didn't bother.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
Some games just hold up better than others. Crap like Quarterback Club aren't worth the time to play, and neither is something like Loaded on the Playstation. Gran Turismo 2, on the other hand, is so much better than the first title and the gameplay is all there. It's still a great racing game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thenewguy
A good fighting game will always hold up. I've never thought of something like Fighting Vipers as a good fighting game, even back then, but X-Men Vs. Street Fighter is still a fun game to play, even if Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 exists. I can still play and enjoy MKII on the SNES, while I can't say the same for the memorization fest that is Killer Instinct.
Listing scores for games made back in the 90's and then calling out games that aren't exclusive (anymore) as making one console better than the other doesn't float. Resident Evil 4 on the Gamecube is still one of the best versions available, even if the gimmicky Wii version exists. Even the HD port for the PS3 kind of sucks (horrible texture mapping in some areas, poorer color), because it's just an updated version of the PS2 game; It still looks better on the GC. Resident Evil: RE isn't a port of the original in any sense, other than the storyline. Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes, isn't a direct port of the original game, it has added content and Miyamoto himself helped with the project.
I couldn't even imagine the ridicule someone would get, had they brought an N64 to a North American college campus, during the Playstation's prime.
I really liked Blast Corps back when it came out. I tried to play it again a year or 2 ago, and I just wasn't having much fun with it. Visually, the game looks so bland.Quote:
Blast Corps has aged better than virtually every game that generation, because it has a unique premise, and original gameplay, I can't think of any games out now which are anything like Blast Corps, and unlike a lot of the N64 games being criticised, Blast Corps is also fairly smooth in frame rate which also holds it in good stead now.
You know what the average North American aged 16-25 male was playing back then? They didn't care or know about Resident Evil 4, they were playing Madden and other sports games. We'd all love to believe that Sonic sold Genesis consoles in the US, but it was Madden and Sega sports titles that moved the console. RE4 on the college campus would have been a blip on the radar. And on the other side of the college life, it was LAN parties with stuff like Halo. The only people that cared about Resident Evil 4, were probably already fans of the original games, or were wanting to try something new.Quote:
College actually (albeit college for us starts at 16-17), and it was quite late on in college too, as I'm sure the Gamecube itself came out after I started college, and RE4 was quite a late release.
and yeah, sure it was childish, but PS2 owners (ie the majority of students) wouldn't shut up about how awful the Gamecube was, and how it was for children, so when Resident Evil 4 was announced, and PS2 owners who'd expected it to be on Playstation were annoyed, unfortunately a lot of the Gamecube owners made a big deal out of it, and it came back to bite them on the ass.
I find it hard to believe that the US could be so ridiculously out of touch with whats going on in the gaming industry for this to be the truth, in Britain anyone interested in videogames knew that Resident Evil 4 was coming out on PS2, RE4's so called "exclusivity" was very high profile at the time, people were talking about buying Gamecubes just so they could get Resident Evil 4, then the whole thing fell apart before RE4 even came out so they didn't bother.
I've already posted the sales numbers for RE4 on the Cube and PS2. The PS2 has 5 times the marketshare that the GC had, yet RE4 only sold about 400,000 units more on the PS2. Obviously, RE4 on the PS2 didn't have the same impact on the consumer end as that of the GC. I've seen the same RE4 greatest hits version sitting at Fry's going on several years; they probably dust it off every now and then; I wonder if those are part of the total amount considered sold for the PS2?
Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to try out that Banjo Kazooie cart I picked up the other day. Let's see if it lives up to the hype.
I've had a Wii since 2007. Most of the best titles for the system are heavily dependent on Multiplayer. You don't play Smash Bros, MarioKart, Wii Sports, Mario Party, Mario Sports, Tatsunoko vs Capcom, Goldeneye, etc. By yourself. You play them when you have tons of friends over. If you are going to say the 360 is worthless without Multiplayer, then you better Acknowledge that the Wii is equally worthless if not more worthless without multiplayer.Quote:
Originally Posted by JCU
With an attitude like that, you're gonna be disappointed. Judge a game on it's own merits, hype is a terrible thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
I would say a strong combination of both. Sonic was huge back then. Mortal Kombat 1 with blood didn't hurt either.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet