3do topic

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Originally Posted by agostinhobaroners

Simulators don't have to be slow. It's not that the 3DO version is a tad slower, it's very slow compared to the other versions.

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I never implied simulators have to be slow. And i dont think the 3DO version is "very slow" compared to the ports. It is noticably slower yes. But it isnt "very slow". You dont have to agree with me, but im not alone in thinking the 3DO version, the original, is superior to the ports. I prefer the realistic sense of speed 3DO NFS offers compared to arcade sense of speed the ports offer. Like i said "insane speed sensation" belongs in the arcade racers.. Take Gran Turismo for example, it felt slower than most racers of the day, simply because it was a simulator and not an arcade racer.. Driving strategically and having to think about when to break etc slows down any racing game. 3DO NFS included.

Okay, I believe you about Starfighter 3DO not having pop-up. It was like fifteen years ago. I used to go into my friend's shop to compare the 3DO and Saturn version of games. I guess you could say I was looking for an excuse to buy a 3DO but none of these games convinced me to spend the money, I always got the Saturn (or SegaCD or Playstation) versions instead. I wonder what game I am remembering then? I don't remember being impressed by Starfighter (or what-ever game I was thinking of) and didn't buy any version of it. There were some others like that, too, like Off-World Interceptor (or something like that).

Oh yeah, and I have the Jaguar version of Wolfenstein 3D which was good enough for me. The Jaguar may not have been great but there were enough different games to justify buying it, at least to me. Plus, it was cheap and the games were cheap, too.

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Originally Posted by grimm

I never implied simulators have to be slow. And i dont think the 3DO version is "very slow" compared to the ports. It is noticably slower yes. But it isnt "very slow". You dont have to agree with me, but im not alone in thinking the 3DO version, the original, is superior to the ports. I prefer the realistic sense of speed 3DO NFS offers compared to arcade sense of speed the ports offer. Like i said "insane speed sensation" belongs in the arcade racers.. Take Gran Turismo for example, it felt slower than most racers of the day, simply because it was a simulator and not an arcade racer.. Driving strategically and having to think about when to break etc slows down any racing game. 3DO NFS included.

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I love racing simulators and I also love Gran Turismo (and don't consider it a proper simulator) but probably we'll have to agree in disagree about the rest.
To my taste, PC's The Need for Speed was the best version and the PS1's is probably the closest to it among the console versions.

I know that you are not alone in your opinion about the 3DO version but I always found it a bit overhyped. Don't get me wrong, I own a 3DO, a Saturn and a PS1; and I love all the three systems in a different way but I don't see anything special about this game on the 3DO. The same for Road Rash.
At the time of their releases they were really mindblowing in several aspects but they pale in comparison to the other versions IMO.

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Originally Posted by sheath

I haven't seen koolkitty in a while, but he/she always said that the 3DO was all high level optimized and only high level development, no assembly language was allowed. The only thing I can say for C libraries in older systems is that they create consistency between releases.

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Makes sense.

Star Fighter 3DO does have pop up, it's just the objects though, the hills have a sort of detail pop up as they get closer too as I recall. It's sort of like Mario 64's pop up as opposed to the typical PS1 and Saturn game just having a drop off on the horizon. The thing is that the 3DO version just blows the other ports away, and being able to see the planet from space is something I haven't seen in any other game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGXytmFQHns

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Originally Posted by sheath

Star Fighter 3DO does have pop up, it's just the objects though, the hills have a sort of detail pop up as they get closer too as I recall. It's sort of like Mario 64's pop up as opposed to the typical PS1 and Saturn game just having a drop off on the horizon. The thing is that the 3DO version just blows the other ports away, and being able to see the planet from space is something I haven't seen in any other game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGXytmFQHns

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3DO usually had the versions with less pop up. If the game runs fast enough, the 3DO version usually is the one to go for IMO.
Saturn is good when the game is not fuck up with slowdowns, too much darkness and odd geometry.
PS1 is usually the one that has more pop up.:yuck:

I'm talking about 3D games, of course.

Man, I am liking my Panasonic 3DO.

So far, games I have are Gex, Escape From Ghost Manor, Return Fire, Stellar 7, Ballz, Burning Soldier, Captain Quazar, Total Eclipse and Star Fighter.

Escape From Ghost Manor is a Wolfenstein clone and reminds me of mid 90's PC gaming. Great fun. Gex is an addictive little number, and I have not played another console port of this game to date. Captain Quazar is one of a kind battle sim that quickly grows on a person. Stellar 7 is fun, but strikes me as a Battlezone knockoff.

Overall, I am quite happy with my 3DO, and am looking forward to much happy gaming to come.

Best thing I did so far was to buy a sleek 3rd party controller off ebay that is much more comfortable than the stock Panasonic pad.

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Originally Posted by tz101

Best thing I did so far was to buy a sleek 3rd party controller off ebay that is much more comfortable than the stock Panasonic pad.

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Which one? I think the Panasonic controllers, especially the larger one that initially came with the FZ-1 is pretty comfortable. Only real flaw is a fairly poor d-pad.

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Originally Posted by sheath

Star Fighter 3DO does have pop up, it's just the objects though, the hills have a sort of detail pop up as they get closer too as I recall. It's sort of like Mario 64's pop up as opposed to the typical PS1 and Saturn game just having a drop off on the horizon. The thing is that the 3DO version just blows the other ports away, and being able to see the planet from space is something I haven't seen in any other game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGXytmFQHns

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The PC version actually has by far the best quality visuals... but it's got the fog, and you can't make it go away, so the 3DO version beats it, even though if you just look at the stuff within the fog distance, the PC version looks quite a bit better than the 3DO. It's quite unfortunate that the port didn't do distance like the 3do...

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Originally Posted by grimm

3DO Need for Speed, its not an arcade racer. Unlike most other in the Need for Speed franchize, or even the ports of the first game if i recall.. It was a racing simulator, so yeah it didnt have the most insane speed sensations later games in the series did. Thats a good thing in my opinion. I also like the fact it takes place on highways or freeways. As for Super Street Fighter 2, its the best port from the arcade hands down i think.



I would personally say its somewhere between the saturn and the playstation, the playstation being the most powerful. That said, i think 3DO versions of games which also saw an early release on PS and Saturn often looked and played better on the 3DO, however, later PS titles is beyond what the 3DO could handle.. The M2 was gonna change that big time, but it got cancelled as a console release just prior to release really. Wouldve been interesting to see what couldve happened between M2 and PS2.

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what? de fuq...?

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Originally Posted by tz101

Stellar 7 is fun, but strikes me as a Battlezone knockoff.

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That's because it is (the original PC game from the early 80's at least)

I guess I only vaguely remember Starfighter. I don't remember any outer space missions. How did you play the space missions if the Saturn and Playstaton versions didn't let you go into space? Or does the 3DO version have more missions than the others?

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Originally Posted by Bones Justice

I guess I only vaguely remember Starfighter. I don't remember any outer space missions. How did you play the space missions if the Saturn and Playstaton versions didn't let you go into space? Or does the 3DO version have more missions than the others?

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In the Saturn version it's just broken. In the PS1 version you get to see stars and hunt down the same satellites and ships as the 3DO version, you just can't see the planet as you move from target to target if I recall correctly. I keep meaning to make a comparison of these three versions, July just might be the right time.

My problem with 3DO isn't necessarily the lack of good games, there are some really fantastic games for the system! It isn't even the really bad games, because for the most part I don't think 3DO had all that horrible of a library. What turns me off to 3DO is the overwhelming amount of just mediocre games the system reeks of games that seem like they were put together as an after thought. The system is worth owning for the standouts, but in the end I don't know if I'd own one again. I do miss my 3DO once and awhile but I think I'd rather spend the money on a new Plasma TV and Pioneer DvD player which I feel I'll get more utility out of.

Then again I do miss playing Cpn' Quazar and Alone in the Dark.

Video Game collecting is hard for me now...there's just so many other things I'd rather put my resources towards...a laptop, tv, dvd player, phone...on and on.

I have mixed feelings about this "early 3d" consoles... I mean I know that those were the days 3d graphics but omg they were HORRIBLE and aged bad... but in the other hand think of the potential that these machines had to make GREAT 2d games u.u so much wasted in stupid and ugly poligons.

So the 3DO is cool? Was wondering if it is okay to say it in public without being beaten up?