Advantages of SNES hardware vs. Genesis hardware

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12-13-2012, 09:36 AM
Team Andromeda

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What does playing on a crt mean

A TV of the Day in basic terms and where MD and Snes graphics looked their best with scan lines intact.

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Please don't act like you know what you're talking about when you really don't

I'm only going on what SM told Nintendo Japanese mag in a interview and how the game was using the 1st generation Super FX chip one give that it started out production at the same time and made to make complete use of that Super FX chip. They again there's a Retro Gamer interview with the programers of Stunt Racer FX - who make out its using the 2nd generation chip and most here beg to differ. What ever the case Yoshi Island looked pretty dam amazing and better than a lot of 2D Saturn and PS games

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My genesis is a va6 model 1 pumping out s-video from a modified 32x. The picture is absolutely crystal clear and the audio sounds perfect,

S-Video ? WHY RGB is the way for Mega Drive

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Pre rendered CGI doesn't look too good this day and age. I don't know why you even bring DKC up.

I'm not talking of today - Where my mobile phone makes Mega Drive or Snes 2D look old hat but back in 1994/5

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its pretty damn clear that you have next to zero experience with the game at all, you actually get killed by the mid boss twice?!?!

What's that got to do with sound and GFX .

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So what's different on a real CRT

Not as clear You want MD res try recored a video in 320 for starters and yes you need to stop playing Batman & Robin because its full of graphical effects for the bosses and that makes a game rubbish.

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We already established in a much earlier argument that TA's TV and/or cables are extremely low quality

The Snes I play in S-Video and the Mega Drive in RGB video , but hey trying to capture a direct RGB video into the PC a pain in the ass -give the lack of RBG inputs to the PC that come in a decent price.

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God I wish I would have never replied to TA's comment about Multi-PCM playback on the Genesis

The Mega Drive only supported 1 channel for sample sound , correct ?.

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i didnt understand all this mumbo jumbo about mode 7, scaling and rotation,

Not a hint of bias in those comments ?

Lots of people would like to see graphical effects in the games - One of the 1st I remember on the MD was the back round rotation in Gynoug 1st stage or the swirling backround fire effect in Thunder Force III - Effects that make the game look nicer and give it those stand out moments that keep you playing to see what's coming next,
12-13-2012, 09:44 AM
Team Andromeda

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Originally Posted by Joe Redifer

Nintendo said that Sonic could run on the SNES. I can't remember where the quote is from, probably one of their ads.

I take it we're being ironic ? SEGA said the PS2 couldn't do cel shading and well we all know what happened there . They all say silly stuff
12-13-2012, 09:47 AM
blackbirdru

And you are ignore my question.
Don't stand for yours words?
12-13-2012, 10:46 AM
TrekkiesUnite118

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Originally Posted by Team Andromeda

The Mega Drive only supported 1 channel for sample sound , correct ?.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!

:bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::b ang::bang::bang::bang::bang:

It's like he hasn't even read anything in this thread...
12-13-2012, 10:54 AM
Kamahl

I feels ya bro... He has the mind of a politician.
12-13-2012, 11:30 AM
TrekkiesUnite118

Can we please just Ban TA from any and all technical hardware discussions?
12-13-2012, 11:31 AM
Kamahl

Nah, he's keeping this forum alive.
12-13-2012, 12:08 PM
evildragon

He completely ignored my quote of him claiming Gunstar Heros was a Saturn game. Lol what an idiot screwball.

You know what's funny? Technically the standard PC today has only TWO channel sound. Left and right, but we can play multiple sounds at once because of SOFTWARE mixing.
12-13-2012, 01:21 PM
Team Andromeda

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Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!

:bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::b ang::bang::bang::bang::bang:

It's like he hasn't even read anything in this thread...

Just answer the Question . Does the MD only allow one of its channels to be used to play samples ?

Yes or NO ?

In Saturn threads you love to make out the Saturn hardware support for 2D planes and what not . Issues like the PS being quite able to emu the effect in software go out the window;even though it has a fast CPU . Hardware support just makes thinks better and easier for the developer

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He completely ignored my quote of him claiming Gunstar Heros was a Saturn game.

A typo by me when I mean to say Guardian Heroes, and its looks like some also do a typo (unless there is Gunstar Heros for the Mega Drive) . It happens 'screwball'
12-13-2012, 01:29 PM
evildragon

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Originally Posted by Team Andromeda

A typo by me when I mean to say Guardian Heroes, and its looks like some also do a typo (unless there is Gunstar Heros for the Mega Drive)

LOL!! Gunstar Heros IS on the Megadrive. It was only that and the GameGear.
12-13-2012, 01:29 PM
Black_Tiger

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Originally Posted by evildragon

He completely ignored my quote of him claiming Gunstar Heros was a Saturn game. Lol what an idiot screwball.

You know what's funny? Technically the standard PC today has only TWO channel sound. Left and right, but we can play multiple sounds at once because of SOFTWARE mixing.

He probably just meant Guardian Heroes. People think of one game and type the name of a similar one all the time.

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Nintendo said that Sonic could run on the SNES. I can't remember where the quote is from, probably one of their ads.

I take it we're being ironic ? SEGA said the PS2 couldn't do cel shading and well we all know what happened there . They all say silly stuff

If "SEGA" said that, it was likely just one person making an assumption in the middle of an interview. They were also talking about something only the DC had done.

That bs from Nintendo about the SNES running Sonic as-is, but adding in screen filling scaling sprites, so detailed that you could make out every whisker on Sonic wasn't just some silly comment. It was a crazy propaganda campaign where Nintendo bought pages of magazine space to post a bunch of lies disguised as a legit editorial that was supposed to look like the magazine doing their own article demystifying Sega's propaganda and all the secrets they were hiding. It went in depth to explain why tech specs are misleading and what the consoles actually could and could not do. Except of course it made the SNES out to be superior to the Neo Geo and the Genesis to be a barely functionng franken-console, thoughtlessly cobbled together from "off the shelf" parts. As quickly as they called out blast processing for being nonsense, they claimed the SNES could do many things several times more fantastical than blast processing.

I've posted scans of it on here in the past, but don't remember the urls right now.
12-13-2012, 01:32 PM
Team Andromeda

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I was very excited so was my brother which is a big Nintendo fan but we both were really disappointed when we saw the same. To start with, it's a really ugly game imo and technically speaking that game is not that impressive, even on SNES we saw really better things that this game

Agreed it looks and sounds quite poor -given all the hype . To me the likes of super turrican 2 just pee all over it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EvIIdLWLYY
12-13-2012, 01:35 PM
Team Andromeda

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Originally Posted by evildragon

LOL!! Gunstar Heros IS on the Megadrive. It was only that and the GameGear.

Yes but both those games contained an 'e'. So I would hold back the LOL if I were you ....
12-13-2012, 01:36 PM
Team Andromeda

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If "SEGA" said that, it was likely just one person making an assumption in the middle of an interview.

It was the Jet Set Radio Team them self 's and I happy to post the interview up If I must ....
12-13-2012, 01:37 PM
sheath

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Originally Posted by Black_Tiger

That bs from Nintendo about the SNES running Sonic as-is, but adding in screen filling scaling sprites, so detailed that you could make out every whisker on Sonic wasn't just some silly comment. It was a crazy propaganda campaign where Nintendo bought pages of magazine space to post a bunch of lies disguised as a legit editorial that was supposed to look like the magazine doing their own article demystifying Sega's propaganda and all the secrets they were hiding. It went in depth to explain why tech specs are misleading and what the consoles actually could and could not do. Except of course it made the SNES out to be superior to the Neo Geo and the Genesis to be a barely functionng franken-console, thoughtlessly cobbled together from "off the shelf" parts. As quickly as they called out blast processing for being nonsense, they claimed the SNES could do many things several times more fantastical than blast processing.

I've posted scans of it on here in the past, but don't remember the urls right now.

Here we go! Nintendo's smear campaign is also the origin of the myth that Sega claimed there was a special chip in the Genesis called the "blast processOR".

http://www.gamepilgrimage.com/sites/...ntendoad11.JPG

http://www.gamepilgrimage.com/sites/...ntendoad12.JPG

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