Advantages of SNES hardware vs. Genesis hardware

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12-16-2012, 12:51 AM
evildragon

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Originally Posted by Drakon

....why not just wire up two mono dacs? One for each channel.

Genesis only has one DAC. ;) This was a thought for a stock system, not a Genesis perhaps with dual 2612's.
12-16-2012, 05:58 AM
Team Andromeda

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Originally Posted by Thenewguy

Really?

Well if it did that's not saying much, being that the graphics looked like crap compared to Dreamcast anyway.

If I had decent quality screenshots I'd post them, Texturing, Colour, lighting, and resolution were all waay better in the DC version, it also had mouse and keyboard support, and online deathmatch.

I have Quake 3 on the DC and its much better than the PS2 version bar the frame rate .

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While Sega's PC ports have never been the best optimized, I'm not so sure that's the case here

Lets face it a decent spec Pentium II could run PSO

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Viewtiful Joe 1&2 look rather grainy and jagged on the PS2.

Part II did , but Okami didn't suffer from those issues and of course you had the likes of Auto Modellista, XIII , Dragon Quest 8 (which looked stunning)

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With worse textures and no online multiplayer.

? I saying in run at 60 fps not that it was the best looking or the best version on console

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Almost all of these comparisons have more to do with being shitty port jobs

Yep porting games over built from the ground up to another console will tend to lead to issues here and there , more so if the Team handling the port aren't up to the task
12-16-2012, 10:15 AM
Drakon

Methinks this's over my head.

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Originally Posted by evildragon

Genesis only has one DAC. ;) This was a thought for a stock system, not a Genesis perhaps with dual 2612's.
12-16-2012, 10:54 AM
Kamahl

And because TA hates homebrew, here's a freaking awesome sounding genesis tune:

https://soundcloud.com/jredd/transcend

That acoustic guitar sound is freaking perfect. Not to mention the flute.

Also:
https://soundcloud.com/jredd/limitless
12-16-2012, 11:16 AM
Team Andromeda

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And because TA hates homebrew, here's a freaking awesome sounding genesis tune

I don't hate it . Just that I think its unfair given how more developed one home-brew community is to another and I wouldn't say too much by even your home brew links are only emulating what bog standard Snes games did generations ago in terms of Mode 7 and Multi Samples ...
Mega Drive handle this has well, I doubt it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-18zfwvySw
12-16-2012, 11:20 AM
Kamahl

http://i.imgur.com/Ly24C.jpg
To answer your question, no, the genesis can't do that, unless it's Tim Follin.
Only Tim Follin can do Tim Follin.
12-16-2012, 11:22 AM
Drakon

The snes does have some games with terrible sounding guitars, like the guitars in the opening stage of megaman x...*shudder*
12-16-2012, 12:21 PM
sega16

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Originally Posted by Team Andromeda

I don't hate it . Just that I think its unfair given how more developed one home-brew community is to another and I wouldn't say too much by even your home brew links are only emulating what bog standard Snes games did generations ago in terms of Mode 7 and Multi Samples ...
Mega Drive handle this has well, I doubt it

What the hell does that mean?
12-16-2012, 12:45 PM
Kamahl

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Originally Posted by sega16

What the hell does that mean?

I'll translate from TAese.

"I don't hate homebrew, I just think it's unfair to use it in a comparison considering that the Genesis homebrew community is far more developed than the SNES one." (TA keeps disregarding the fact that the better CPU of the Genesis and simpler hardware makes Homebrew a lot easier).
"Oh and even so, all those homebrew examples are only emulating what bog standard SNES games did generations ago in terms of abusing Mode-7 and simultaneous PCM playback." (Here TA misses the point like usual, I think he still hasn't read the OP)
"You think the megadrive could handle this well? I doubt it..." (Posts Tim Follin song)
12-16-2012, 12:55 PM
sega16

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Originally Posted by Kamahl

I'll translate from TAese.

"I don't hate homebrew, I just think it's unfair to use it in a comparison considering that the Genesis homebrew community is far more developed than the SNES one." (TA keeps disregarding the fact that the better CPU of the Genesis and simpler hardware makes Homebrew a lot easier).
"Oh and even so, all those homebrew examples are only emulating what bog standard SNES games did generations ago in terms of abusing Mode-7 and simultaneous PCM playback." (Here TA misses the point like usual, I think he still hasn't read the OP)
"You think the megadrive could handle this well? I doubt it..." (Posts Tim Follin song)

Well atleast I can now read the post but like you said there is a reason why the genesis homebrew community is more well developed because of more interest in hardware and I still cannot understand TA's "point" if you would go as far as to even call it a point.
12-16-2012, 01:28 PM
zetastrike

This thread is getting repetitive. How many times is TA going to post a Tim Follin song? Maybe that's his little way of admitting they're the only SNES tracks that sound good.
12-16-2012, 01:30 PM
TmEE

there is no point, only a bottomless pit
12-16-2012, 02:52 PM
sega16

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Originally Posted by Drakon

....why not just wire up two mono dacs? One for each channel.

The dac in the ym2612 is internal. I still wish sega would have used the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_YM2608 instead of ym2612+SN76489. The ym2608 uses an external stereo dac http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_YM3016
Also even though the chip is more expensive to use but it would save on mixing hardware with the ym2612+SN76489 as the ym2608 has a built in YM2149 and it has 7 channels of adpcm. But overall it would have added to the cost but I am not sure how much.
12-16-2012, 03:08 PM
Raijin

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Originally Posted by Drakon

The snes does have some games with terrible sounding guitars, like the guitars in the opening stage of megaman x...*shudder*

:(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta9ZpVPGLLI
12-16-2012, 04:13 PM
Drakon

I think most of my favourite games sound good (super metroid, chrono trigger, ff4, ff6, earthbound, secret of mana, zelda lttp). No tim follin in there.

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Originally Posted by zetastrike

This thread is getting repetitive. How many times is TA going to post a Tim Follin song? Maybe that's his little way of admitting they're the only SNES tracks that sound good.

I said x, not x3. Still these ones could be better, where's tim follin when I need him.

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Originally Posted by Raijin

:(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta9ZpVPGLLI

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