Pretty much my experience as well. Also reped for the Master Race comment.
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I'm a member of the PC master race. I've built my last 2 gaming PCs in the past 3 years. You should check out the comments left on Alienware videos posted on Youtube. The PC builders laugh at the people that spent too much money for sub-par performance.
My laptop is a piece of crap, because I don't play MMOs, thus I have no need for an overpriced piece of hardware that would get outperformed by a $650 desktop PC. You could build a pretty bad-ass desktop PC for $1500.
I can see the need for a dedicated MMO player to have a rock solid laptop, but you'll usually find that they are happy with just the laptop over a desktop PC.
Sega isn't selling them. Enterbrain is. They are Clevo product as I've already told you. The price isn't marked up like Apple either, they are about the same price as the ODMs sell the same thing as. And those other companies you mentioned don't sell Clevo notebooks, they are their competition. And Coby? Really? The high-end of garbage electronics?
Coby is the new Emerson. :lol:
We all build our own PCs. We also take it seriously enough to buy secondary hardware if we want to. PC builders laugh at people who spend too much when they don't need to, not because they're buying something as needless as a gaming laptop when compared to a desktop rig. There's a point to be argued there when we're talking about prebuilt desktops, but not laptops. It's accepted as a needless niche, enough to be almost only secondary and for the serious PC gamer. Nobody's looking for top-end performance, just convenience in a portable desktop replacement.
I wouldn't take anybody who puts money into those gaming laptops any less seriously. Usually the customers for them know what they're buying ahead of time and have the disposable income for it. The people who buy those laptops have no problems replacing them in 2-3 years with new top of the line hardware. I've seen them being used in LAN parties more than anything else.
I wouldn't expect their site to say it is a Clevo, most OEMs don't. Since its a product I am familiar with, I can tell by the photos that are made available. I don't have one on hand at the moment unfortunately. The two things I can say for sure is the chassis molding, the left side input arrangement, and the button bar are the exact same. Also, other OEMs also sell this model with different "skins" which I don't think are stickers. The entire panel on the backside of the lid is available in many different colors. For example, AvaDirect sells theirs with 11 different panel colors as an option.
You ever heard of Black Box?
They take other manufacturers' products, slap on the Black Box logo and sell it in their catalogs. It's pretty funny to see a product I know was manufactured by someone else, with the BB logo on it.
Has anyone seen this (sorry if it's a repost):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqyEhVwl2MI
Pretty cool concept
^That was beautiful
Nice vid. Thank God this " Playstation Orbis" nonsense is finally over. Now SEGA won't have any trouble selling their Orbi brand.
Major UPDATE with the Sega Orbi trademark:
The mark has been OFFICIALLY registered.
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/documentviewer...Index=1&page=1
March 14,2013:
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Mark: ORBI
US Serial Number: 85517210 Application Filing Date: Jan. 16, 2012
Register: Principal
Mark Type: Trademark, Service Mark
Status: Applicant's response to a non-final Office action has been entered. The application is being returned to the examining attorney for
further review. To view all documents in this file, click on the Trademark Document Retrieval link at the top of this page.
ORBI
Standard Character Claim: No
Mark Drawing Type: 5 - AN ILLUSTRATION DRAWING WITH WORD(S) /LETTER(S)/ NUMBER(S) INSTYLIZED FORM
Description of Mark: The mark consists of a graphic design composed of the letters "O"-"R"-"B"-"I" in a highly stylized font.
Color(s) Claimed: Color is not claimed as a feature of the mark.
Foreign Information
Priority Claimed: Yes
Foreign Application
Number:
2012-000879 Foreign Application Filing
Date:
Jan. 10, 2012
Foreign Registration
Number:
5523373 Foreign Registration Date: Sep. 21, 2012
Foreign
Application/Registration
Country:
JAPAN Foreign Expiration Date: Sep. 21, 2022
(Ten years until Renewal?!) Wait a minute, this sure as hell isn't no game console. This is definitely a new business brand/new company mark.
Here's several highlights from SEGA's foreign registration document Translated from Japan:
https://tsdrsec.uspto.gov/ts/cd/case.../24/webcontent
Class 9: Protective Helmets;Cash Registers;Coin Counting or Sorting Machines; Token coin Counting machines;Money Exchanges,Coin operated photo machines;Photographic machines and apparatus;Optical Apparatus and instruments; Game software for Arcade Video game machines;Electronic circuits, magnetic tapes and discs,optical discs,ROM cartridges and other medias recorded game programs for use with Arcade video game machines;Telecommunication machines and apparatus; Headphone straps; Batteries and cells;Telephone sets;portable telephones;Auto Frequency Machines and Apparatus; Compact disc players; Video frequency machines and apparatus; DVD players; Computers; Electronic circuits; magnetic tapes and discs, optical discs and ROM cartridges; recorded game programs for use with personal computers; Computer programs;other Electronic machines, Apparatus and their parts; Downloadable game programs; Mouse Pads; Game programs for home video game machines; Electric circuits; magnetic tapes and discs, optical discs; ROM cartridges and other medias recorded game programs for use with handheld games with liquid crystal displays; Phonograph records;Metronomes; Electronic circuits and CD-ROMs recorded with automatic performance programs for electronic musical instruments; downloadable music files; Downloadable audio files and music files;Video or sound recorded compact discs and magnetic tape; Exposed Cinematographic films; Exposed side films;Slide film mounts; Downloadable image files; Recorded video discs and video tapes; Downloadable video files; Downloadable image files and moving image files for mobile phones; Electronic publications;Spectacles; Eyeglasses and goggles; Sunglasses; Spectacle cases; Downloadable electronic publications
Class 28
Amusement Machines and Apparatus for use in Amusement Parks; Arcade video game Machines;Redemption Game Machines; Toy Vehicle; Electronic toys; Home video game machines; Hand-Held games with liquid crystal displays;Stuffed Toys;Toys;Dols;Educational Toys;Hand-Held Electronic game machines;Puzzle toys;plastic toys;Toy figures;action figures;Toy models; Bath Toys; Rubber Toys;