Bought a CRT with S-Video, but the S-Video is in black and white?

Bought a CRT with S-Video, but the S-Video is in black and white.

TRIED MULTIPLE BRAND NEW S-VIDEO CABLES THAT ALL SHOW COLOR ON OTHER TV'S WITH S-VIDEO. IT IS NOT THE S-VIDEO CABLES.

I messed with all of the settings. There is just no chroma signal being picked up by the TV.

Tried multiple devices, DVD players, consoles, etc. No color on S-Video.

Highly pissed. This was not cheap and when I tested it at the shop I accidentally tested it with the Composite plugged in, so I was only seeing composite. I didn't find out that I hadn't see the S-Video till I got home.

LET ME CLARIFY: THE OWNER OF THE STORE WOULD NOT LET ME CHANGE THE SETTINGS TO SELECT S-VIDEO AS HE SAID HE DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO LET ME "MESS WITH A TV". HE SAID HE KNEW HOW THE TV WORKED WOULD DO IT HIMSELF. HE ACTUALLY SELECTED AV1 (COMPOSITE) AND TOLD ME IT WAS ON S-VIDEO (I DID NOT KNOW THIS UNTIL LATER). He probably didn't deliberately deceive me, but simply didn't know what the hell he was doing.

So, when I saw a picture it was ACTUALLY THE COMPOSITE SHOWING A PICTURE AND NOT THE S-VIDEO. So, when I say I "accidentally tested composite" what I mean is that I thought it was S-VIDEO because the store owner SAID HE HAD SELECTED S-VIDEO. HE MAY NOT HAVE DONE THIS DELIBERATELY, BUT THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED. MY MISTAKE OR "ACCIDENT" WAS BELIEVING THE STORE OWNER WHEN HE SAID IT WAS ON THE "S-VIDEO" SETTING WHEN IT WAS ACTUALLY ON COMPOSITE.

Any ideas?

I'm no expert but you might check your S-Video cable. It might be faulty or incompatible. I can't remember the details but a long time ago, we had a similar problem plugging in a laptop to a television set; the picture was only in black & white. We finally got a different S-Video cable and it solved our problem.

Yea, check the cable. You make no mention about trying another cable. I have had a few S-Video cables go bad.

If it's not that, sounds like something internal, but surely it can be returned if bought from a shop?

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Originally Posted by evildragon

Yea, check the cable. You make no mention about trying another cable. I have had a few S-Video cables go bad.

If it's not that, sounds like something internal, but surely it can be returned if bought from a shop?

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Tried with multiple brand new S-Video cables. These cables also work find with other TV's that have S-Video and show color on those.

I just read a few reviews about this guy's shop and he apparently gets TVs out of people's garbage and refurbishes them and sells them.

Dude, take it back. I bet he never tested the S-Video.

Ask him how many pins S-Video has. ;)

I've seen S-Video jacks go bad on TVs before, they do break eventually. Try moving around the S-video plug in the TV's jack and see if you get chroma to come up.

What brand is the TV? Please don't say KLH (Or Toshiba). A lot of them had faulty S-Video circuitry that went bad.

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What brand is the TV? Please don't say KLH (Or Toshiba). A lot of them had faulty S-Video circuitry that went bad.

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Samsung.

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Dude, take it back. I bet he never tested the S-Video.

Ask him how many pins S-Video has. ;)

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I'm bringing a witness with me.

Some issues:
He said it was 22 inch on the phone (I live an hour away, in a different city), but I get there and it is a 20 inch.
He would not let me test the S-video in the store, only the composite (which I don't need). --->Let me clarify. He said it was on the S-Video setting when it was on the Composite setting. This made me think the composite signal was S-Video and that the S-Video was working.
When I called about the TV set I explained I would be coming from a good distance away and would need to test it, yet when I arrived he rushed me out the door stating that he had too many appointments. He barely even let me connect the TV to a console to test it at all and almost didn't let me do that.

I think he might be trying to rip me off.

Well wait a second, you said in the original post, you said you accidentally tested composite video and not S-Video, but now you're saying you were forced not to test S-Video?

Dude, which is it?

My red lights are flashing right now.

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My red lights are flashing right now.

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Look, believe what you want.

For other people that are reading this, however, what happened is that the owner said he had changed the settings to S-Video so that I could test my console with S-Video. However, he had actually (not known to me) changed the settings to composite. As I had both composite and S-Video hooked up, this made me think that the S-Video was working. He may not have done this deliberately, but he did tell me that he had S-Video selected and he did not. When I got home the settings were exactly as the owner had left them and it was on a composite channel NOT S-VIDEO. This means I had NEVER seen S-video tested in the store. Also the owner did not let me adjust the settings myself as he stated he didn't have enough time to let me play around with a TV.

When I say I "accidentally" tested the wrong output, this was me attempting to paraphrase what happened in as few words as possible and not assign blame to anyone.

So "which is it" in this case is a logical fallacy. It presupposes that there are only two possibilities.

Either I "accidentally" tested the wrong output...

..or the owner "forced" me to test the wrong one...

What happened, again, is that the owner told me that he had changed the settings to S-Video (deliberately or not) when they were actually showing composite. As I took what the owner was saying at face value (and he would not let me adjust the settings myself), my real mistake was trusting the owner selling me the TV. Again, he may not have done this deliberately, but he did tell me something that was not accurate.

Dude, red flags everywhere.

You should have turned it down. But your story has a few holes in it though that have me confused. Why didn't you say this originally, for example? It's very important.

Right from the start, he did do this on purpose to you.

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Why didn't you say this originally, for example? It's very important.

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I paraphrased to save time.

I also didn't mention how many tiles were on his floor or how what prescription his eye glasses are. Nor did I mention that he has a dog named "Whiskey". That doesn't mean I'm lying to you. There are no "holes in my story".

I simply tried to relate the story in as few words as possible and then move on to the things I had tried with the television.

I also didn't realize what was going on until I looked back at the owner's behavior. It was only suspicious in hindsight (after the fact). It happened really fast.

In other words, I thought it was my own mistake, until I looked back and realized that I didn't really have control over what was going on with the television in the store. I had to argue with the guy just to plug the console into the television. When there was no picture I tried to go into the menu and he knocked my hand away and pulled out a universal remote and changed it to AV1 (which it turns out, is composite). However, he said he had it on S-Video. So, I believe at the time it was S-Video and paid and left.

You need to go to him, and tell him this: "I feel you have pursueded me into purchasing a TV that was not properly tested. When I wanted to test S-Video, you kept pushing me that you didn't have enough time, and forced me to only test composite video. It was then, because of my time constraints, I felt pressured into buying the TV, in which I did, but didn't realize until I brought the TV home, that I saw why you kept pushing me to not test S-Video. The input for S-Video has a chroma problem and can't show color under any circumstance, and is without a doubt faulty. It is because of this, I feel this I feel the sale was forced upon me, and was sold a TV that was not working, when you knew exactly what problems it had. Please take the TV back and refund my moneu, other prove to me S-Video is functional."

Now, I'm not a lawyer, but that is what I would do.

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You need to go to him, and tell him this: "I feel you have pursueded me into purchasing a TV that was not properly tested. When I wanted to test S-Video, you kept pushing me that you didn't have enough time, and forced me to only test composite video. It was then, because of my time constraints, I felt pressured into buying the TV, in which I did, but didn't realize until I brought the TV home, that I saw why you kept pushing me to not test S-Video. The input for S-Video has a chroma problem and can't show color under any circumstance, and is without a doubt faulty. It is because of this, I feel this I feel the sale was forced upon me, and was sold a TV that was not working, when you knew exactly what problems it had. Please take the TV back and refund my moneu, other prove to me S-Video is functional."

Now, I'm not a lawyer, but that is what I would do.

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Sounds good. I'm bringing a witness also.

I've had problems with TV repair shops like this before.

A lot of these guys are dumpster divers.

Yes, and a lot of them are not worth it these days. That's not to say there isn't TV repair shops that are good, but they are rare now.