Fan-made tech demo of Starfox on the Genesis

Exceptional post by TrekkiesUnite on Nintendo Age. That about sums it up.

It's just pitiful watching 3GenGames try to rationalize that SuperFX Starfox is somehow a fair comparison to the stock Genesis version. Nintendo fanboys indeed.

3Gengames comment gave me a little headache, I mean just shut up and be impressed.

I lol'd at Laseki's post. It's basically "If you like your Genesis so much why don't you marry it?"

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Originally Posted by FuturePrimitive

I don't seem to be very popular on this forum! So, to make everyone happy, let's pull the SFX chip out and see how StarFox runs without it on the SNES. Then we would have a fair comparison. Virtua Racing's chip would easily compare to SFX. This is no true test of hardware when StarFox has an extra chip in the cartridge, while the Genesis demo is running on pure hardware.

So much hostility, damn.

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Hostility, what? Also, your popularity or lack thereof has nothing to do with what I said. The SNES absolutely needed the SFX chip to do polygonal 3D games of any sort above 10FPS. The Genesis only needed the SVP chip to do a rendition of Virtua Racing, which was a very advanced 3D racing game for its time. Comparing the Genesis plus SVP to the SNES plus SFX isn't exactly equal ground and heavily favors the former in processing power. The Genesis alone, especially overclocked, or the Sega CD are much more comparable to what the SNES SFX could do.

Actually, if yo watched the EMUreview,



He says that the maker of the FX chip made a very primitive 3D demo game using the only the snes hardware and showed it to nintendo. Nintendo asked if he could do better and he said that it couldn't get better using such limited hardware.

That video of Star Cruiser we keep passing around looks like it might have some serious emulation issues with those vertical lines. They remind me of Duke Nukem 3D on the MD not playing in emulation correctly.

Also, Argonaut rules to no end.

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Originally Posted by Thunderblaze16

Actually, if yo watched the EMUreview,



He says that the maker of the FX chip made a very primitive 3D demo game using the only the snes hardware and showed it to nintendo. Nintendo asked if he could do better and he said that it couldn't get better using such limited hardware.

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Alright this guy might know what he is talking about, but his use of emulation for video examples is seriously wrong. Doom and Stunt Race are the worst offenders here. Stretched window size and much faster gameplay, emulation is bad for comparisons.

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Originally Posted by sheath

Hostility, what? Also, your popularity or lack thereof has nothing to do with what I said. The SNES absolutely needed the SFX chip to do polygonal 3D games of any sort above 10FPS. The Genesis only needed the SVP chip to do a rendition of Virtua Racing, which was a very advanced 3D racing game for its time. Comparing the Genesis plus SVP to the SNES plus SFX isn't exactly equal ground and heavily favors the former in processing power. The Genesis alone, especially overclocked, or the Sega CD are much more comparable to what the SNES SFX could do.

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Oh no, the hostility and popularity comment was towards NeoVamp. I don't think he likes me very much. Sorry to confuse you with my terrible wording.

As far as the tech specs, you know more about it than I do. I just play the games!

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Originally Posted by FuturePrimitive

Oh no, the hostility and popularity comment was towards NeoVamp. I don't think he likes me very much. Sorry to confuse you with my terrible wording.

As far as the tech specs, you know more about it than I do. I just play the games!

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Game on!

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Originally Posted by sheath

That video of Star Cruiser we keep passing around looks like it might have some serious emulation issues with those vertical lines. They remind me of Duke Nukem 3D on the MD not playing in emulation correctly.

Also, Argonaut rules to no end.

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Really? Those looked like Composite/Capture Card artifacts to me.

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Originally Posted by Guntz

It's just pitiful watching 3GenGames try to rationalize that SuperFX Starfox is somehow a fair comparison to the stock Genesis version. Nintendo fanboys indeed.

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They're too dumb to look inside the carts... You gotta accept this!
The whole "You just need a SNES to play _______ (SuperFX game), you damn Sega fanboy!" argument is just as stupid as it perfectly shows the mindset you'll find in your average Nintendork.

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Originally Posted by Thunderblaze16

Actually, if yo watched the EMUreview, he says that the maker of the FX chip made a very primitive 3D demo game using the only the snes hardware and showed it to nintendo. Nintendo asked if he could do better and he said that it couldn't get better using such limited hardware.

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Worth the watch! I didn't know that.

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Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118

Really? Those looked like Composite/Capture Card artifacts to me.

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I'll try to test the game with my Everdrive tomorrow, I'm just guessing that the actual game doesn't have those horrible bars, they look just like Duke 3D does under emulation.

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Originally Posted by sheath

they look just like Duke 3D does under emulation.

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They're different. Star Cruiser bars are just horrible to look at, no matter what video output you're using.

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Originally Posted by sheath

I'll try to test the game with my Everdrive tomorrow, I'm just guessing that the actual game doesn't have those horrible bars, they look just like Duke 3D does under emulation.

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I know the game probably doesn't have them, but I've seen it before in certain capture card recordings using composite.

EDIT: You can see it in his other videos too: