I would really like to be able to play Jang Pung 3 and Samgukji III (Sangokushi III) on real hardware.
Can anyone verify if they will run on a model 1 US SMS, or a Genesis with PCB?
What about flash carts? Will they run on a SMS Everdrive on any hardware combination, or with a Mega Everdrive? I know they won't work on a regular Everdrive, but I didn't know if that was a limitation on it or the Genesis console.
You would need to make a 44-pin to 50-pin adapter in either case. In addition, if you use a Master System, it will need to have its' bios disabled.Quote:
Originally Posted by Azathoth
That isn't a problem for me on the MD side since I already have a Mark III converter..
What's the deal with the SMS bios? Is that issue present regardless if you use a cart or flash cartridge?
There isn't yet a confirmed working 44-pin to 50-pin adapter.Quote:
Originally Posted by chessage
At least I've yet to see conclusive proof anyone to date has executed code from a 44-pin cartridge, using a 50-pin model of Master System.
Most Japanese carts lack data the English bios versions need. Flash cartridges have to include that part or they wouldn't boot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Azathoth
Those are both Korean games and use a mapper none of the flash carts support. However, the Korean mapper can be hacked easy enough into one of the other mappers... you need to change writes to 0xA000 into writes to 0xFFFF.
Taking that portion out of the equation; does that particular mapper use a display mode that will not work on a MD? (TMS9918? I can't remember offhand)Quote:
Originally Posted by Chilly Willy
AFAIK some of the other Korean games will not work on a MD because of that issue.
That's a different list of games, much like the list that don't work with a MD pad. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Azathoth
In general, SG-1000/3000 games and a couple other SMS games (literally like two) use the old TMS modes. There are a handful of games that use the PAL video mode and only work on the SMS V2 VDP. All the rest should work if the mapper is handled. Note: The mapper has NOTHING to do with video, it handles bank selecting the rom on large games.
A few years ago (!!), when I was working out what would and wouldn't work on my EverDrive, I made a list of Korean games that need the TMS9918:Quote:
Originally Posted by Azathoth
Dr. Hello
FA Tetris
Flashpoint
Penguin Adventure
Street Master
Super Boy II
The Three Dragon Story
Wonsiin
Some more games have surfaced/been dumped since then, mostly MSX ports and co-releases including my avatar's source, Super Boy I (or at least I assume that's why I didn't include it in my 2010 list).
You can see a tag-based list at SMSPower here, though when I tried to load the page just now I got a 503 error.
(In that list I also note that Jang Pung II, Jang Pung 3, and Sangokushi 3 all started up for me via EverDrive, but with massive graphics corruption; I don't think I've checked them since then, but at least that demonstrates that the graphics modes aren't TMS9918 since the game would've just black-screened.)
1.) Low demand.Quote:
Originally Posted by lumclaw
2.) Would require the user to disable the bios in their system(s).
Thanks for everybody's responses.
Looks like the only viable option would be real cart + Mark III converter for MD. Hunting these down is going to be a real treat :/
Before torturing yourself tracking those down, you might check with Krikzz. Since support for those mappers/hardware is well documented in various emulators, maybe it'd be easy for him to implement if he has the specs at hand?
I guess. Tossing cash at a mod project isn't going to work, too few interested even for hire.Quote:
Originally Posted by chessage
I noticed the Mega Everdrive mentions it implements support for both the Codemasters and Korean SMS mapper.
Can anyone confirm if either of these games are supported? And being that it specifically supports a version of a Korean mapper, what Korean games now work that didn't work with a regular Everdrive?
Funny, didn't think to try... they work fine on the Mega Everdrive. Tried them both on the MED on my CDX. No problem... well, other than the fact that they're both sucky fighter games. :p :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Azathoth
Thanks for the info. Although both games are a bit rubbish, they're triple A gems compared to pretty much every other unlicensed fighter on any platform.
Are there any Korean games that are currently dumped that are not supported by the Mega Everdrive?
No idea - I'm not about to just try them all. If there is ONE in particular you want tested, I can do that, but have better things to spend my time on than testing games at random.Quote:
Originally Posted by Azathoth
If it doesn't use the TMS9918 graphics, it SHOULD be fine. If it does, you won't see video. That's the best I can say for a general statement.
The Korean games use a different mapper than normal SMS/GG stuff.