and the next xbox is called

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Originally Posted by madmax2069

Does anyone find it odd that blockbuster of all companies is saying this. Heck our last blockbuster closed down about a year ago, and the one before that about 4 years ago, I haven't seen a blockbuster since. I would not trust what a bankrupt company has to say. And who really goes to blockbuster to preorder a console, and a console at that is basically a death toll to rental shops at that. I smell something funny with that claim.

That's what I was wondering... I expect to hear this from Gamestop, but not Blockbuster. Didn't know they EVER sold consoles.. I don't think they even use to rent them back in the 90's...

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Blockbuster UK's James Morton has told MCVUK that the Xbox One has broken all pre-order records in Blockbuster's 24-year history. No specific numbers were given. He added: We are delighted by the huge number of pre orders that we have received so far for the new Microsoft console.

Well unless it's a UK thing... I didn't know Blockbuster sold consoles. And for the fact that if they just started... Then YEAH best pre-order in their "24-year history" And to be so vague and say "HUGE number of pre orders"... So like 10? or 20? What's a huge number? 100?

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Originally Posted by JCU

Blockbuster Video?

Yeah, blockbuster video.

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Originally Posted by mrbigreddog

That's what I was wondering... I expect to hear this from Gamestop, but not Blockbuster. Didn't know they EVER sold consoles.. I don't think they even use to rent them back in the 90's...

I always went to rent games and or a system and the occasional movie from them, I never bought anything from them new, nor knew of anyone that bought anything new or preorder anything from them.

Oh yeah, they rented out systems in the 90s. That's how I got to play on a PS1 when it first launched. And I do believe they rented out older systems as well.

wait, I just woke up from hibernation...

Xbox One... wtf is this? I had an Xbox one 10 years ago.

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Originally Posted by JDB

wait, I just woke up from hibernation...

Xbox One... wtf is this? I had an Xbox one 10 years ago.

You're time capsule went backwards... Welcome to 2001! But are you serious?

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Originally Posted by mrbigreddog

Your time capsule went backwards...

Slow Internet for everyone!!

https://imageshack.us/scaled/large/694/xboxoneb.jpg

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I just want that controller for my PC rig.

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Originally Posted by NeoVamp

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/1194/xboxone.png

its fucking skynet and hall 9000 in one

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Originally Posted by mrbigreddog

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Whoever made that hashtag walked right into that one! That was a great response! :D

Xbox One (click to view in 3D)
http://sketchfab.com/urls/qsRPEw7hTK...g?v=1369829264

Just as I suspected... NOTHING INSIDE!! :)

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PS4 is so much better than Xbox One... Cause it has a bigger number. ;)

That's pretty funny!

Blockbuster used to rent out consoles for sure. Hell, they even sold off their stock of Virtual Boy consoles many years back.

Thought these were worth showing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rJDn0jRnUQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2iku7pkbf0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOxdMQhDMIU

http://www.playstationeuphoria.com/p...functions.html
http://www.playstationeuphoria.com/w...42428368_n.jpg

;)

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Originally Posted by mrbigreddog

That's until the want to play Batman Arkham Origins or Assassin Creed Black Flag and they want to buy a used copy. You can only do that on Wii U.

Actually . . . this will be significant once support gets pulled away from PS3 and 360 (unless they pull a PS2 vs Wii scenario) since the Wii U will no longer have their competiton to mitigate things. (if 360 support stuck around, that would partially mitigate the Wii U's market position, but with it out of the picture, the Wii U could find a more solid niche fittings its technical shortcomings -or trade-offs)

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Originally Posted by mrbigreddog

My 15 year old son said that he and his friends are going to boycott the XboxOne... and the PS4 if it can't play used games either.

I can see that . . . and as it was with the PS3 and 360, one of the last things console games had going for them was less annoying DRM than (many) PC games and lack of need for installation. Still, the reliability issues (and other rising complexity and logistics) made used hardware buying more iffy for PS3 and 360 than most previous gen consoles, and that's definitely a contributing factor to why my family still hasn't gotten either yet. (granted, we've been mostly out of PC gaming for a while too, so that same issue contributes -- I certainly put building a decent PC game rig above a 360 or PS3)

Anyway, the Xbox-One and (probably) PS4 seem to finally have mitigated the last big advantages over gaming PCs in general. In fact, they've gone from more attractive than PCs to decidedly less attractive with PC installation and DRM being far more flexible and less painful (and used game sales still usually being possible) more so for some games than others. (depending how aggressive DRM is and if it's a hard copy or digital distro)
And among those things, there's Steam too, which isn't perfect, but certainly shows to be the best of its mainstream contemporaries by far (including MS and Apples counterparts -perhaps more competitive with Android markets), and the fact that Steam has already embraced used sales to a reasonable extent (both providing an internal trade-in service and allowing external license sales/transfers iirc) is good to know.

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Originally Posted by EclecticGroove

Modchips and bootlegs have, and no doubt will continue, to be a thing on consoles as well. And Microsoft has no monopoly on console games either.

Yeah, except you can still buy/sell used PC games and even buy/sell used Steam licenses. (granted, for hard copies, you've got to be careful not to get gypped with a game missing the activation key if you want a legitimate copy)
And, of course, cracking a PC game is free (provided you do a little leg work online), while modchips can be very costly and/or time consuming to purchase and install.

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Originally Posted by Kamahl

Original Xbox is the best Xbox.

Agree . . . it was cool for the time, the most powerful console and used in such a way that it even had some of the best versions of multiplat games including PC stuff once in a while (and better support for local multiplayer). That, and it was reasonably reliable.
Plus, with MS in the underdog position (as much as they could be), they were forced to be at least slightly more flexible/reasonable with 3rd party developers compared to these days. (albeit, given how much they may have screwed up with the One, this may eventuate again ;)) That's part of what made the Game Cube what it was that generation too. (Nintendo still being idiots towards 3rd parties in some ways, but at least forced to be somewhat more reasonable -something that happened progressively more each gen from SNES through GC, handhelds aside)

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Originally Posted by Lastcallhall

It's strange... I find myself rooting for the Xbox One, but not in the way you might think. I'm not really happy about the one disk, one install process, and I really could do without the constant network connection being present, but I also do realize the potential the console has to change not just the way games are played, but how we interact with one another.

With the Xbox One, you truly have an all in one solution for families that allows for what was previously managed by multiple boxes and consoles to have a centralized hub where it's accessible by the entire family. Movies, social media, gaming, television - it's all right there and ready for you to access at a moments notice. While this isn't exactly what the core gamer wants (myself included), it's a nice step forward into the digital era, and can really change the way we view all content in our lives for years to come. I don't see this as a new gaming console as much as I see it as a new interactive way station to allow complete and instant communication to anyone, any time, anywhere across the world. Will I be buying one at launch? Probably not - like I said, I'm a gamer first and foremost - but I am intrigued by the tech behind the console, and what it can offer to the mass public.

You mean like an HTPC . . . or a TV-connected multimedia PC (prior to the coining of "HTPC")? Something that's already very accessible to average consumers and more powerful and versatile than these proprietary console options? (and for the more savvy user, something that's been possible for a whole lot longer . . . from my family's PoV, we've been using an HTPC-like set-up on and off since 1998 -PC connected to main TV/entertainment system for DVDs, games, streaming internet media, etc . . . and when I say "on and off" I mean mostly "on" with a few gaps due to problematic upgrades and other tinkering where it wasn't working through the TV -it's actually a shared "office" PC with a desk/monitor adjacent to the family room entertainment system, so dual-duty)

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Originally Posted by Thierry Henry

When all is said and done, MS will regain some lost faith at E3 with gamers, IMO, however the fact that they did a first reveal and shunned gamers like that is clearly a sign to where they place gaming on their list.

The battle for the living room is stupid, MS cannot possibly win it because very soon Samsung and the rest of the TV manufacturers will implement most of these features in the device you already have to own; the TV itself. Already my 2 year old TV plays any format I throw at it via USB, it connects to my router and can access Hulu, Netflix, and anything on the net, and it works with the same damn remote. New TV's have camera's built in so it will be easy to implement Skype and everything else gesture-based, in fact that's already happening with the new LG's and Sammys.

The battle for the living room is already over and the TV wins it.

On top of that expect Apple to release a TV very soon, it will most likely have the current AppleTV box integrated. Then there's Google TV. That's big competition right there.

MS expects people to buy a device which is big, and it has another component on top of that. Then it only works if it's always on and they said it will do spot checks to see what's happening in your living room, all this while connected to the net?

And, again, like an HTPC. With newer HDTVs adding basic functionality for that multimedia stuff, anyone wanting significantly more than that basic stuff would be better off with a low-end (or not so low end) PC set up with the TV. (that-is, if they WANTED to use the main TV for that and not reserve that for a separate office/bedroom PC location)

MS seems to have been really mixed up over targeting useful mass-market niches . . . be it focusing on the hardware market they at least established some success in with their game consoles, or the whole mess of missing out on pushing a powerful in-house PC/multi-plat application market instead of focusing on their OSs. (something a log of major players were afraid of a decade ago -MS had real potential to push hard with the home/business/entertainment application markets rather than struggling to expand their stagnating PC OS monopoly -they could have maintained their OS line in a more moderated manner and hedged their bets with competing platforms more heavily by pushing cross-platform application development Windows/MacOS/various Unix-based OSs -Linux/Android/etc and potentially even dropped windows to legacy status if publishing for 3rd parties ended up more profitable)
Now, whether that would have been BETTER for consumers and the market as a whole than MS's current screwed-up mess is another story, since it would have led to them being a LOT more powerful than they already are and very likely stifling competition more harshly. (unless they changed their business tactics . . . which wouldn't seem likely short of legal intervention)

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Originally Posted by EclecticGroove

MS didn't have a choice. HD DVD and blu ray fought it out, and while it wasn't exactly a massive consumer demand.. blu ray still one.

They just could not get away with launching a competing "high def" Console with media capabilities without blu ray. Just wasn't going to happen. Even if they came up with some funky super high capacity drive with more room than blu ray for their primary storage, the system would still need to be able to play back DVD's and BRD's for the media functions.

It's like CD or DVD or floppy disks for that matter, a standardized format with major investors holding licensing/patent rights (and associated royalties and kick-backs and advantages with vertical integration). And as such, very early on, the in-house associates have a massive advantage (hence Sony with PS2 and PS3) which dissipates as licensing expands, competing manufactures expand volumes, tech gets cheaper to build (regardless of profit margins), and (finally) patents expired.

Graphically impressive but overall shit. New gen consoles. Call of Duty part 1, 2, 3, 4 to 360 to 720. Get them all. Or buy 1 and get them all.