A new sega is more than possible

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Originally Posted by TheSonicRetard

His post is actually a cross-cultural thing

The character's name is Tonto, but only in english adaptations of the Lone Ranger

of course, in spanish (and similar languages), tonto means "stupid"

And in areas where those languages are spoken, the characters name was changed

only spanish-speaking americans would understand his joke

Tl:dr: he's calling this topic stupid

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This is even better: in Latin America the Lone Ranger indian sidekick name is "Toro".. which in english means "BULL"..get it?

I own an Ouya, and it fucking sucks. It's got a terrible UI and it's half baked at everything it does. The only thing saving that platform is the ease of development by leeching on the Android SDK. It hasn't even launched yet and should definitely not be considered a success to compare a future Sega platform.

Sega has nothing to offer consumers, developers, and investors if it ever does decide to spend it's money on building hardware in competition with Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft, Apple, Samsung, Google, etc.
It's a brand name that turns a profit these days because it's being leveraged as such; no longer wasting development costs, and instead outsourcing on franchises that make money.


Sega is a brand, and none of the people who made it worth liking in the first place are still around. Why the fuck should any of us care if they do make a new platform? Why should we be loyal to a logo that's been bought and sold more than once since it mattered in hardware?

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Originally Posted by TheSonicRetard

His post is actually a cross-cultural thing

The character's name is Tonto, but only in english adaptations of the Lone Ranger

of course, in spanish (and similar languages), tonto means "stupid"

And in areas where those languages are spoken, the characters name was changed

only spanish-speaking americans would understand his joke

Tl:dr: he's calling this topic stupid

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Yeah! And he's giving them that look. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeDoR7wCfi8

So there's three of these guys now? Perfect.


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i just noticed your avatar says oldi

and now we have 3 sega orbi lusers

god help us

SEGA does NOT exist. It's a mere subsidiary of Sega-Sammy Holdings. The SEGA we grew-up with is now long-extinct. Even if this Frankenstein of a subsidiary made a new console under the guise of "SEGA", it would still be the same bullshit conglomerate that exists nowadays (if you can even call it that :?).

Enough is enough.

I have to admit though, if Sega put their name on an Android or Windows 8 tablet I'd probably want to buy one. I hate tablets.

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Originally Posted by KitsuneNight

i just noticed your avatar says oldi

and now we have 3 sega orbi lusers

god help us

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No no, you have to join in because Orbi is all we have talked about for the last several months. I can't even remember the last game discussion I had with anybody here. Change your avatar now like the rest of us, this is now an Orbi forum dedicated to mrsega.

^ nyet ! i shall resist
i shall start an underground movement to figth the orbi bullshit spam !
rise up with me against the filthy orbi and its three insidious instigators !

we shal not be beaten by this orbi spam

so instead lets talk games

( sad thing is at least half my damn posts are probably discussions about the orbi and why its bullshit )

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Originally Posted by MrSega

1. SEGA's BIGGEST assets during the CSK years, was CERTAINLY its brilliant 1st party talent. SEGA had something other Arcade giants didn't have: "excellent in house software making talent". They certainly exercised this talent, but at what cost? I totally agree with every point. Seeing that SEGA lost alot of that in house talent after CSK went under in 2001, and that until 2009, SEGA developed mediocre garbage from lazy outsourced development studios(Colonial Marines was the last of it). SEGA needs to channel their creativity and energy that their experimenting on PCs and mobile games into their own platform. This is the key to bringing back the glory days of SEGA's legendary library.

2. Niche home consumer platform is DEFINITELY something SEGA can do. Even as Sega Sammy, they weighed the option with "Kids Pad" a couple of years ago. What I don't understand is why people keep overlooking this? Why do they ignore this when a smaller company like SNK did pretty damn well doing it and WHEN 3DO was able to execute it successfully for a while. I have EVERY reason to believe SEGA is still considering some niche home consumer product business platform(which makes perfect sense since everything SEGA keeping filing regarding home hardware keeps mentioning "Tablet devices for use with TV Screens". Selling said high end Tablet console would be very easy to do, nichewise. Hell with the right,pricing,budget,execution and B.O.M. SEGA could become VERY successful with a Tablet console. One of SEGA's best assets as a hardware brand was the conservative silicon policies they had regarding 1st party hardware. They ALWAYS spent more on Arcade machines and balanced out their home consoles with a stern budgetary plan. SEGA could build something from just a mid range budget without spending too much, is just that by the late 90s, they were running out of cash.

3. SEGA could easily get away with implementing a LAN,Wi-Fi digital network policy. SEGA Net this time around would be done differently. Wi-Fi networks can now be used and can remain free and cheap to run. Back in 1999-2000, none of these things existed yet and running Mainframes interfaces through modem and ethernet was pretty costly. Also remember, SEGA doesn't use the PC OEM for home consumers, Their consoles were always designed using off-the-shelf components and inexpensive silicon that technically is capable of mimicking PC hardware. Dreamcast's SH-4 CPU was similar to a low end Pentium II, but was initially designed for use in Hybrid Cars. This policy gave SEGA the upper hand in development costs regarding software. THIS is WHY they NEED to come back. This is what WE'VE been missing. The days of $40-50 games. The reason why we don't see this has nothing to do with inflation, its development costs and budgets that have be ballooning. since 2006. Developers and publishers are suffering BECAUSE of this.


4. I agree. The reason why SEGA stopped advertising in 2000 because their were running low in cash. SEGA used to have strong marketing skills, they just had sloppy management. If you think about the advantages SEGA now has compared to the mid/late 90s, like Social Networking,mobile media, YouTube, SEGA can use these tools in ways they couldn't. SEGA has money, TV and Internet advertising is not all the rage now. The media of today makes it cheaper than 16 years ago.

5. A SEGA/Apple joint venture and partnership was speculated briefly and is STILL likely. There are people that keep claiming that Apple will get into the console business on their own, without doing research and realizing that Apple has ZERO plans for 1st party and console gaming. They are more focused on making sure MAC dominates the American PC market, planning a mini PC industry and have plans for opening up an Electronics retail chain and getting into the digital cable game. SEGA and Apple likewise are strong partners of each other. SEGA was in fact the first publisher to support iOS. There's also Toshiba, they used to do business with Sony but now have turned their backs completely on them Toshiba is also outselling Sony's Electronics by 2 to 1 margins. Toshiba certainly wouldn't mind a SEGA joint venture. Their pretty hellbent on making Sony suffer after the cheap under-handing done to force HD-DVD out.

6. Again excellent point made. SEGA was very good at marketing back in the day. They've seen the benefits of today's media. They MUST aggressively use it to their advantage.

7. SEGA both needs to get back their own talented producers, and DUMP the furry freaks weirdos that run the Sonic franchise today. Sonic shouldn't be on a non SEGA console. He BELONGS solely on a SEGA console and no other. That was WHAT he was created for. What would Nintendo fanboy retards say if Nintendo released Mario games on other platforms, how would they feel? Also SEGA can keep and salvage Sonic's supporting cast, they've just got to find a way to market them. This is a huge advantage the franchise over Mario. Mario's support cast is completely useless except Yoshi and maybe Koopa and the Koopa Kids, Rouge can be likeable and very popular outside of just horny male gamers. We're already seeing Tails begin to become more popular in way's he's never been. Amy is Sonic's "Minnie" but SEGA needs to make her a "no-nonesense" character so that she can be reckoned with. Knuckles is currently nothing more than a hasbeen. He was immensly popular in his day, but has a very bland personality. Like Sonic, he needs a female counterpart, Same Species but has a polar opposite personality and tomboyish image. Shade is the answer. Shadow is fine the way he is and so is Blaze.


8. The mis-management of the CSK years led to too much designs and too many home consumer products with not enough resources to support them long enough. I can assure you, SEGA will NEVER EVER make that mistake again. They've learned to just stick with at least 2 to 3 successful SKUs and retire one of them once a new one is on its way.

9. As long as the budget is conservative and the BOMs are cheap. SEGA can ship as much units as demanded without taking losses and like Wii can gain strong profit.

10. SEGA has GOT to listen to the fans who still love and care about them. Fans who are glad to see that they are STILL alive and well after everything that's happened over the past 15 years. They need to fully understand, that their software consumers aren't SEGA fans. Just Nintendo and Sony fans who only care about the IPs SEGA makes if their exclusive to their favorite consoles. Nintendo fans think SEGA can be brought for a couple of billion too stupid and immature to realize that SEGA's assets are worth well over $30 billion and Sony fans are just annoyed that SEGA is still going and thought for sure they'd go under in like 2006 or so. Sony fans FEAR SEGA returning to hardware.(It's their reoccurring worse nightmare that they tell themselves will hopefully never come true) Because they KNOW the potential and luck SEGA would have this time around and that Sony is not the brand giant they used to be.

SEGA needs to understand, that these people don't give a DAMN about you. They started buying post Dreamcast and couldn't give to shits about Sega CD or anything else. Most Sonic fanatics don't even play other SEGA games.

I'm confident SEGA will follow all these commandments in the near future. They've been out of the game for 12 years. Do people really think that they DIDN'T learn anything after all this time? I don't think so.

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your reply is an optimistic view like mine.

but honestly mrsega . i think the reason why sega doesnt make a console is because people are doomthinkers. somewhere i believe if all fans would stop whining bout the money of sega and put some encouragement. its karma u see. and sega is powerfull, but they feel insecure when they read bad stuff of fans. especially the sonic fans.

what people forget is that sega is the most forgiving company
and the sega fans are also the most forgiving

why?

sega is helping wii u out and vita. many companys basically took the escape route. but sega helps nintendo out in the harshest season.

why are we the most forgiven?

failure after failure we keep on coming back. this is because genesis was such a huge impact on us that it was so perfect. and sega reached her peak of perfection of console history and future. that still untill now somewhere in our hearts we still want a sega. cause we know sega does what others dont.
we know that for a fact. can u actually deny the feeling on playing the genesis or the dc when we played skies of arcadia.

i know yall recognise this.
im no good at economics or politics. i am but a fan. but i didnt lose logic. and the logic is with a firm plan sega would prevail.
they allready got money.

the factors to get rid of are

insecurity
arrogans of soa and soj towards eachother

the factors we need

a firm and steadyfast plan

so instead of actually replying to the realistic replies ( or responding to everybody who wants an end to this orbi bullshit )
you choose to bury your head in the sand and continue to spin bullshit in a fantasy world

..well fucking done

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...fuck this thread http://i.qkme.me/51js.jpg
this thread is dildo's
exploding dildo's

kitsune keep your hostile and agressive responses to yourself.

i happen to be interested.i dont buy that orbi bullshit either. but i do love to have a new sega console.
wether it happens or not.

all things aside i appreciate your presence here. but if u dont like a certain topic its really easy. sont respond and dont visit

sorry bro

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its not just me that is fed up with this
this whole thread is full off peopel who are fed up

im just the most vocal right now

and if you ( or anybody else ) want a new sega console buy namoi arcade hardware and a supergun
instant new sega console

ok im cooled down. drank a juice. ate a bread peanutbutter.

basically im just new to forums and i understand that u are fed up since uve een here longer then me. but a new sega console means something tome.

not that long on this forum ( ahem )
but ive been around and been on several forums in my time

would i want a new sega console ?
in a perfect world i woudl have said yes

but its financially not feesable for sega to re enter the console market again
and there is no point
the market has changed since 1999 and google and apple are the real behemoths of this day and age they can crush sega and think nothing off it

sega is better off as a third party developer and publisher
a new console is un reality
its a fantasy
a pipe dream

the clostest is setting up a super gun with their arcade hardware

quite frankly i can accept what sega is now a third party developer that publishes some quality titles and re releases their old titles ( moar model 2 games sega moar ! )