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Yeah, that has nothing to do with the format tho, just the way they release the movie. There are absolutely reasons why the orig VHS release may be superior from a fan perspective, just has nothing to do with the format itself :)Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
I agree with the sentiments over VHS being archaic and finicky, but I will always hold a soft spot for it due to cutting my teeth on it throughout my childhood. I recently finished a years-long project in which I digitized all 85 episodes of "G-Force: Guardians Of Space", an '80's cartoon which was never released in its entirety on home video. I own 6 T-180 tapes filled with recordings from the show's initial run on Cartoon Network back in 1995, complete with TV commercials (which I digitized in a separate project years earlier). Thankfully the video quality was/is good-to-great on these 18-year old tapes, and my late '90's Optimus VCR deck (actually a re-branded Panasonic VCR) held up well throughout the hours of playback.
Once I finished this project however, I packed up my VHS and put it back in my closet, as I doubt I'll ever use it again....unless I come upon some interesting TV recordings. :D
Any beta max fans out there?
I never said anything about VHS being superior to anything. I'm just saying that I've kept a small selection of VHS tapes around, because there really isn't much of an option to view those films. If you want to see A New Hope the way it was in theaters, you're going to have to hunt down the limited release on DVD, or dust off the 1st print run on VHS; I like to not see CGI Dewbacks and Han shoot 1st every once in a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by EclecticGroove
I'm actually running A New Hope, right now, on my old 6-head VCR just to see how it looks on a (4:3) 32" HD CRT and a 27" Wega. It's not bad (Lucas films generally look better on home formats), because there isn't any tiled dark backgrounds and it fits well on a 4:3 set. The downside, however, is that there is a lot of image distortion and grainy imagery.
Wow! Tatsunoko? It also goes by other names, Science Ninja Team Gatchaman and Battle of the Planets. That brings me back. I wonder if they ever made a DVD?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aarzak
uh the "limited edition" ( not so limited they were still in the stores in 2009 ) are transfers from the 1993 laser discs versions
so those are not the theatrical version anyway
hell the 1980 theatircal version got its crawl tweaked and got the episode 4 a new hope header
my vhs versions of a new hope are from 1992 and 1994 so i am sure they have been tweaked
The 1992 edition was before Lucas did the digital remaster for the SE versions. Yeah, they snuck in "A New Hope" in the crawl, but the little details like a spot here and there on the film are still there. It's almost like watching it on film back in 1977.Quote:
Originally Posted by KitsuneNight
I just popped in the Limited Edition of Star Wars on DVD. I didn't realize who grainy that version is, compared to the remastered SE editions. Still, looks better than it does on VHS.
I still have a large collection of VHS movies and some stuff I recorded off the tv!
Generally I download (torrent) movies that I want to watch, but some haven't been ripped.
That's where the trusty VHS comes in! Also, you can get VHS movies for 10 or 20p on a car boot sale, here in the UK! :)
We had both, VHS and Beta. Beta was clearly better - better video and sound, smaller cassettes, better console... but it was FAR more expensive. You could only get Beta from Sony, while VHS was to be had from anyone and their dog. The competition lowered prices where Sony had no reason to... until Beta died as a result.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlecRob
Anywho, I've still got a number of Beta tapes, but no working player anymore. You can get an SVHS player for less than $100 from a number of places, but Beta? You gonna pay, boy!!
i have those too ( on vhs ) they are remarkably pinkQuote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
and i have seen lists of edits even before the SE versions you wouldnt believe just how much lucase fidgetted with them
maybe with some luck disney will re release the pre SE movies on dvd or blu ray but i doubt it
That's one of my biggest peeves about some DVD's and BRD's. They so such a sloppy transfer on some of them they should be ashamed trying to sell them at full priced.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
I do understand when some movies are basically coming from incomplete/rare sources... but those are the exception. Many of these movies that have crappy transfers were just a cheap rush job and had no excuse.
Gotta agree with you. I don't mind Guttenberg, but I didn't like he's character. Fisher Stevens was more likable.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkDragon
Yeah, stuff like Total Recall (BR) were just quick cash ins; They were pretty much upscaled DVDs. The Limited Edition of Star Wars (DVD) were transfers from the Laser Disc versions of the movies. The SE versions were pretty much the original film, digitally remastered and having CGI effects (and Greedo BS) added in. I don't know if there is even a master copy (in good shape) of the original Star Wars movies, since they had to pretty much chop up the film to remaster each frame of it. The only way we are going to get a faithful (digitally remastered) theatrical version of the original Star War Trilogy, is if Disney decides to tear apart Lucas' SE editions and somehow digitally remaster the special effects scenes from the original versions.Quote:
Originally Posted by EclecticGroove
Nowadays, if they are releasing an old favorite on Blu-Ray, I like to at least read a review to find out if the transfer is worthy of purchase. I skipped on Arnold's version of Total Recall, because the reviews called it a sloppy transfer, and I already have it on DVD.
I have a Digital VHS player that I mostly use to record old VHS and store on a hard drive with occasionally. Sometimes I make money recording people's cruddy family videos with it. That's about it. I do wish I kept my original Star Wars VHS as I'd rather watch them than the modern versions.
i very much doubt disney will take apart the masters of the orginal trilogy and take out the added crapQuote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
i thinkt he best we can hope for is a proper transfer of the laser disc versions
personally id be happy with that