PlayStation 4 (Official Thread)

*engages the flamer*

actually i cant be arsed to argue about that
i just prefer console gaming over pc gaming because it used to be "easier" im not so sure about that anymore these days
i got a ps 3 a saturn a ps 1 a ps 2 a dreamcast a megadrive
and a 3 pc's that handle most everything i throw at it

i still prefer console gaming but im not too fussy anymore these days

my blu ray is a LG btw ;)
and a ridicilously kitted out one
it is a dvd writer
a blu ray player
a hd dvd player
and a lightscribe burner

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Originally Posted by KitsuneNight

my blu ray is a LG btw ;)
and a ridicilously kitted out one
it is a dvd writer
a blu ray player
a hd dvd player
and a lightscribe burner

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And still you digitized your crappy VHS tapes of Star Trek TNG.

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Originally Posted by KitsuneNight

my blu ray is a LG btw ;)
and a ridicilously kitted out one
it is a dvd writer
a blu ray player
a hd dvd player
and a lightscribe burner

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OK, but can it play CD's? Huh, huh? Mister fancy multimedia disc burner owner guy? Ha!

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Originally Posted by nemesis enforcer

OK, but can it play CD's? Huh, huh? Mister fancy multimedia disc burner owner guy? Ha!

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yes it cant tap dance or make toast though sadly

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Originally Posted by NeoVamp

And still you digitized your crappy VHS tapes of Star Trek TNG.

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yes and ?
i happen to like vhs
is that a problem ?

Oh, I see, so you can listen to pan pipe music and such? On CD? On the PC? With your superdupercalifragalistic disc spinnerooni device? .... Well, I don't know what to say, it truly is a wonderous drive...... HOWEVER! By your own admission sir, "it does not make toast" Does not make toast? Ye gads man! Even a lowly street urchin with a slice of bread and a match can make toast! ..... Your fanciful device has deceived you into thinking it is a god, it is merely a well made optical drive. Here endeth the lesson.
( for more inane ramblings & general arse about face nonsense please buy my book - how to make a shit console even more shite by microslag)

how many ruppees is that book ?!

To you sir, half a ruppee, a French franc and half an armadillo

willa whole armadillo 1 ruppee and some gum do ?

Only if the gum is prechewed and not peppermint :yum:

the gum is still in its package and uhh spearmint

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Originally Posted by KitsuneNight

me me me me !
that was me !

i usually put my xbox lowest and stack everything on that
its quite flat and sturdy

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Is that a typo? The Xbox is convex on top, anything set on top of it will teeter totter.

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Originally Posted by old man

You guys are definitely into this next generation of consoles. You keep making the same threads over and over again with different titles, just like the games.

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Ah, E3 franchise threads to accompany all of the mrsega threads. All we need is better subtitles for each thread, and a dozen corporate logo videos in the OP for each new thread. Why isn't there a generic corporate shill video that can be applied to any product anyway? Somebody should make one.

No sale! On with the topic...... Something about a PS4 and Sony winning something?

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Originally Posted by sheath

Is that a typo? The Xbox is convex on top, anything set on top of it will teeter totter.

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no its not a typo
my ps3 slim is on top of my xbox and its quite sturdy not something i can push aside accidentially

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Originally Posted by nemesis enforcer

No sale! On with the topic...... Something about a PS4 and Sony winning something?

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5 rupees then and a living rat !

Sold! And I'll throw in a free Xbox one.

oh good i can use a door stop

I'm waiting for the official Steam Box to show up. For the price of getting an Xbone or even the PS4, you can build a cheap PC that has better performance and more games to play.

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Originally Posted by Knuckle Duster

I'm waiting for the official Steam Box to show up. For the price of getting an Xbone or even the PS4, you can build a cheap PC that has better performance and more games to play.

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Wait... Weren't you touting the Xbone before? Almost everyone that had originally supported the Xbox 360/Xbone is jumping ship to PS4, PC, and Wii U. It's all over gaming news sites. The reaction polls should be making Microsoft shit bricks.

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Originally Posted by FuturePrimitive

Wait... Weren't you touting the Xbone before? Almost everyone that had originally supported the Xbox 360/Xbone is jumping ship to PS4, PC, and Wii U. It's all over gaming news sites. The reaction polls should be making Microsoft shit bricks.

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I think the Xbox One would kick ass if it was properly marketed and subsidized by carriers. It seems better than PS4 for it's media functionality, and more tied into the windows PC world we all live in anyway. If they were to get all the cable companies on board with replacing their digital boxes with Xbox One applications it would have a ton of momentum, despite the online-only DRM.

Of course, Microsoft is stupid. $499, DRM locking, Kinect & internet required at all times. Sony is going to show off while they can, but their own product has it's problems and disadvantages. BC reliant on streaming, awkward social media sharing, a new paywall for multiplayer and no clear advantage with PS+ game giveaways over Gold anymore.

Both consoles seem like fancy machines that play the same old shit games you can buy on 360/PS3. There's nothing new to see here. Microsoft however, is it's own worst enemy. No doubt the PS4 is kicking them in the back of the head right now. I just don't feel the hype, and don't see the selling point offered by either of them. Certainly not with the potentially disruptive Steam Box still hiding out there.

The games are what matters, and nothing stood out to me.

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Originally Posted by KitsuneNight

probably
i prefer the old ps2's to be honest because they are stackable but my slim so far is working fine with nary a problem
unlike my silver ps2 who refuses to read ps 1 games and i got 40 of those

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do you guys really stack consoles? doesn't that cause problems like overheating?

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Originally Posted by Obviously

Really though, as has been noted earlier "hitting all the right notes" only consists of not being Microsoft at this point.

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then what else could sony have done? mind you many people here and elsewhere were thinking and holding their breath sony would force the same restrictions upon it's consumers like m$ did. then they don't and still people complain.

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Originally Posted by bultje112

do you guys really stack consoles? doesn't that cause problems like overheating?

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Why would it cause overheating? The vents are still open to the air and it's not like the other console is generating heat while it's off.


then what else could sony have done? mind you many people here and elsewhere were thinking and holding their breath sony would force the same restrictions upon it's consumers like m$ did. then they don't and still people complain.[/QUOTE]

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Originally Posted by bultje112

do you guys really stack consoles? doesn't that cause problems like overheating?

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I don't have a need to right now, but I might try it when PS4 comes out.

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Originally Posted by sheath

Why would it cause overheating? The vents are still open to the air and it's not like the other console is generating heat while it's off.


then what else could sony have done? mind you many people here and elsewhere were thinking and holding their breath sony would force the same restrictions upon it's consumers like m$ did. then they don't and still people complain.

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because consoles (and most things) don't just lose heat through vents but everwhere. if you block an entire system with other things it will stay warm a lot longer.

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Originally Posted by bultje112

then what else could sony have done? mind you many people here and elsewhere were thinking and holding their breath sony would force the same restrictions upon it's consumers like m$ did. then they don't and still people complain.

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I didn't expect anything more for them. I'm just not going to decry Sony as the saviors of consoles and the best company around while crying tears of joy when they essentially had a lackluster showing with a brief slide pointing out that they are going to just be like they have been and not be like MS. Sure, nod of approval, an attaboy for not making the publisher/devs desired standpoint the default, but that's really it.


What else they "could" have done would be to go on to say that they would not approve/license any games on their system that would limit the ability to trade/sell games or buy used ones. And if they wanted to go one step further, they could even say that they would od the same and bar any licensing for games that did an online check for any reason other than online play.... but they didn't, because they are not fighting that fight, they are just there to make themselves look good and let any developers/publishers that want to bend you over with license transfer fees or locked 1 time use games (or whatever else) do so as they please and at their leisure.

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because consoles (and most things) don't just lose heat through vents but everwhere. if you block an entire system with other things it will stay warm a lot longer.

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There aren't any vents blocked by setting a console on top of another one if they are flat on top. The vents are on the front, sides or bottom.

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Originally Posted by sheath

There aren't any vents blocked by setting a console on top of another one if they are flat on top. The vents are on the front, sides or bottom.

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read again what I said. I wasn't talking about the vents but general warmth/heat of however you call that

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Originally Posted by bultje112

read again what I said. I wasn't talking about the vents but general warmth/heat of however you call that

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There isn't any when a console is off. If we were talking about both consoles being on at the same time you might have a point.

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Originally Posted by sheath

There isn't any when a console is off. If we were talking about both consoles being on at the same time you might have a point.

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no I mean when a console is on ti doesn't lose only heat through the vents but it loses heat in general because it's in open space and the surrounding is colder. if that surrounding is blocked it may prevent that

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Originally Posted by bultje112

no I mean when a console is on ti doesn't lose only heat through the vents but it loses heat in general because it's in open space and the surrounding is colder. if that surrounding is blocked it may prevent that

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So, do you suspend your consoles on stilts or something? The amount of heat that can possibly escape through the shielding and top plastic of a console is next to null compared to the amount of heat dissipated through the vents. It is much more important for the surrounding air to be less than 85 degrees, especially with modern consoles, than whether or not something is touching the top of the console.

EDGE Magazine(the most Pro Sony gaming magazine in the globe) is claiming that Sony lied about DRM on PS4 and is planning simliar tactics to Microsoft.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=585731


"Several development sources have told us that they expect game publishers to implement similar DRM policies across Xbox One and PS4, despite what has unfolded at E3 this week.

Our contacts described Sony’s conference announcements as a PR play, and revealed that its decision to go DRM-free was made at the very last minute.

Each platform holder’s DRM policy has changed continually over the last few months, they said, though Microsoft’s initial stance was much tougher than its position today. This suggests that the platform holder’s decision to let publishers decide for themselves whether to implement DRM on Xbox One was not part of the original plan.

Ultimately, the developers we spoke to understand the need to protect the revenues made on their work, and expect to see broadly similar DRM restrictions across both PS4 and Xbox One – in one instance, it was suggested that these measures were essential for the console business to survive.

We were also told that final publishing agreements will not be drawn up for at least another month, so the terms of engagement could yet change once more before each console launches at the end of the year."



Damn. That's harsh.

Even though Sony isn't going to enforce DRM on their own, they will regarding multi-player and will let major publishers enact whatever policy they feel like.

Again Mr. Sega your conjecture and fantasies are seriously flawed. Here is proof of that.

Peter Moore of EA favors used games and has declared that EA has never pressured manufacturers to implement DRM or restrictions.

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The narrative I've heard is that EA lobbied hard to have the hardware companies come up with a solution so you guys are not faffing around with online passes and you're not losing potential used game profits to retailers.

Moore: "Absolutely incorrect. As the guy who is the chief operating officer of Electronic Arts I can tell you that EA did not aggressively lobby for the platform holders to put some gating function in there to allow or disallow used games. I am on record as being a proponent of used games. I like the ecosystem. I like the fact that it's kept pricing at a good level for eight years. I like the fact that someone can buy a physical game and see some equity in that game. That keeps GameStop vibrant and they are a great launch and marketing partner for us.

"EA has never had a conversation, and I have been present at all of them, with all of the manufacturers, saying you must put a system in place that allows us to take a piece of the action or even stop it. Absolutely incorrect."

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Link-->http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/11/442...and-used-games

The Xbox One was built as a DRM device from the ground up. This is something that Microsoft wants the whole world to adopt. Good luck in places like US Naval Vessels and military installations, countries like, China, India, Brazil, Mexico, etc, where internet access is not freely available like EU and the USA.

Just because your creepy Sega fantasies have failed to become a reality doesn't mean that you should wish the worst for others who are hopeful of the PS4's success.

People like you and Xbox One fans are getting desperate with discrediting the PS4.

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Originally Posted by MrSega

EDGE Magazine(the most Pro Sony gaming magazine in the globe) is claiming that Sony lied about DRM on PS4 and is planning simliar tactics to Microsoft.

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Sony didn't lie, it's the exact same system as the PS3. EDGE and The Verge (which later corrected their article) were the ones making shit up.

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Originally Posted by Kamahl

Sony didn't lie, it's the exact same system as the PS3. EDGE and The Verge (which later corrected their article) were the ones making shit up.

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Edge was making shit up? Weren't they the ones who lealed accurate info on PS4 and on Xbox One's DRM?

Don't be surprised if many major publishers enact preowned used games DRM on PS4.

You're missing the point of why DRM is being inacted.

I ain't defending Xbox One or MS's poor messaging, I'm making a point.

Don't be naive.

Also where the HELL does it say Xbox One wil block all used games?

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Originally Posted by MrSega

Edge was making shit up? Weren't they the ones who lealed accurate info on PS4 and on Xbox One's DRM?

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No, Almost every piece of information before E3 and before Either console was first revealed was from NeoGAF sources or from a scant few obscure websites.

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Originally Posted by MrSega

Edge was making shit up?

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Why did you just say Edge twice?

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Originally Posted by MrSega

Don't be surprised if many major publishers enact preowned used games DRM on PS4.

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That's not sony's problem, they can't prevent that.

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Originally Posted by MrSega

Also where the HELL does it say Xbox One wil block all used games?

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They designed a console specifically for the purpose. They just backed out at the last minute. That's like saying steam doesn't block used games because developers can opt out of the DRM... come on now... And you HAVE to go through an accepted retailer (like gamestop) you *cannot* sell any xbox one game on ebay.

^ wait
microsoft backpedalled ?

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Originally Posted by KitsuneNight

^ wait
microsoft backpedalled ?

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They say they won't have any fees on their own games.

EDIT: You still have the mandatory online, single resale (no 3rd or 4th hands), limited outlets (gamespot), mandatory install on a fixed 500 gb hd etc...

hmm
kind of a half assed back pedal then
they are trying to do damage control but the damage has been well and truely done