MKR is ok but AO was like a port of SNES game so I have to question it's quality and I heard it had bad load times too. I just question WD quality control on some of these games. Shining Wisdom was game that I really wanted. Paid 19.99 and it's terrible. I can say that I was glad SoA passed on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118
Albert Odyssey isn't an SNES port. It's an exclusive separate game. The Japanese version did have bad load times, but Working Designs improved them for the US release.
Don't know where you got you info from but it is indeed a port of a canned SNES gameQuote:
Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118
Albert Odyssey: Legend of Eldean, known in Japan as Albert Odyssey Gaiden ~Legend of Eldean~ (アルバートオデッセイ外伝〜LEGEND OF ELDEAN〜?) is a role-playing video game developed by Sunsoft for the Super Nintendo, but cancelled and ported to the Sega Saturn
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_...an#cite_note-2
I wanted to like AO, but it had a lot of problems that ruined the fun. There were still excessive load times between battles, often locking up the game as well. The battles were also boring and almost unchallenging. I did enjoy the game when I wasn't battling, but unfortuneatly, there were too many of those along the way.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118
I really like MKR. The graphics are beautiful, with colorful backgrounds and clean animations. The only part of the game I really didn't like was the dear diary moments. It's still a great game.
It's not a port though. A port would imply it's a port of an existing SNES game. It's not. Just because development started on the SNES doesn't make it a port of an SNES game. By that logic Grandia is just a Sega CD port since it started as a Sega CD game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Da_Shocker
It's not a just port, it's a game that got moved to a new platform. Pretty much all of the graphics are beyond the capabilities of the SNES. It's only a port in the same sense that the Wonderswan/etc Final Fantasy I & II remakes are "ports" of the NES versions. EGM has been calling all 2D visuals 'SNES" ever since the 32-bit generation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Da_Shocker
MKR and AOG are a big deal to me, since RPG and similar style games were and still are my favorite genre(s). Even if there are even getter RPG/adventure games on Saturn (worldwide), these two games were more important to me bitd than high profile non-RPG and non-2D games. I'd rather play them more than 99% of the N64 library.
Oh lord dont' start this shit now. AO doen't have anything that looka like it took advantage of the Saturn and I have no clue why you brought Grandia into equation as it looks NOTHING like a SCD game. But ever source I have has said that it was canned on the SNES and PORTED to the Saturn.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118
Albert Odyssey Gaiden (known in USA as Legend of Eldean) is RPG developed by Sunsoft and released for the Saturn in 1996, but it was originally meant to be published for the Super Famicom / Super Nintendo. The SNES version was soon cancelled and the project was ported to the new SEGA console, with many differences. Obviously the graphic was boosted for the Saturn, but even the SNES version looked really good for a 16 bit system.
http://www.unseen64.net/2009/12/09/a...nes-cancelled/
What it is: An old-school, Sunsoft developed Working Designs Sega Saturn RPG that plays more like a Super NES RPG. That’s a mouth full. It was evidently originally developed for the SNES and ported to the Saturn.
http://crunchypig.wordpress.com/2012...end-of-eldean/
I brought up Grandia because it's in the same boat technically. It started as a Sega CD game with the battle system being designed on that system. It later got moved up to the Saturn. That doesn't make it a Sega CD port, just like how Albert Odyssey being moved to the Saturn doesn't make it an SNES port. To be a port, a full SNES version would need to exist first. And the game definitely does take advantage of the Saturn's hardware. The game runs at a higher resolution, with much more animation, color, and detail than the SNES Albert Odyssey game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Da_Shocker
Just compare the two:
Even games like FF6 look noticeably worse.
You do know that Sonic 3D Blast also looks, sounds and plays better on the Saturn than it does on the Genesis so i'm trying to figure out what your point is?Quote:
Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118
A Genesis version of Sonic 3D Blast actually exists though. There in lies the difference.
It went strong right up until the launch of the DC. They still had great sales numbers, but had to cancel the magazine when they ran out of advertisers. Just goes to show how strong the Saturn user base was. Fewer people who were more dedicated than the average consumer of mass appeal consoles.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
And I guess you missed this link right here that shows what the SNES version looked like before it was canned and ported over to the Saturn.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118
http://www.unseen64.net/2009/12/09/a...nes-cancelled/
It doesn't exist in a complete released form though. Sonic 3D Blast does. We don't even have any proof that those are real screenshots and not mock ups.
Using your same logic we can make these same silly statements:
Grandia is a Saturn port of a Sega CD game
Shenmue is a Dreamcast port of a Saturn game
Sonic Adventure is a Dreamcast port of a Saturn game
Final Fantasy VII is a Playstation port of an N64 game
Dragon Quest VII is a Playstation port of an N64DD game
Final Fantasy IV is an SNES port of an NES game.
See how silly this starts to get? A game is only a port if there's another version that is actually released and deemed the original version. So Sonic 3D Blast on the Saturn is a port, because the original Genesis version actually exists and was released to the public and is the original version. Albert Odyssey on the Saturn isn't an SNES port because a) we don't know how much of the SNES version was actually finished, b) the SNES version was never released to the public, c) the only version that exists to the public is the Saturn game.
Having development start on one platform and move to another is extremely common in game development and has never before deemed a game a port. If it did then so many games would actually be ports that it wouldn't even be funny.
back on topic
europe still got shafted as usual
That's what happens when you're not ntsc?Quote:
Originally Posted by KitsuneNight