ISAO OKAWA is SEGA's savior

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Originally Posted by MrSega

You must spread some reputation before giving it to Drakon.

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And TA, you are wrong about Okawa being the CEO of SEGA. He was the CEO of CSK Enterprises which in 1983 was owned by Paramount Pictures/ Gulf Western.

Hayao Nakayama was SEGA 's CEO, he was the co-founder ,remember?

And Okawa had little to do with Dreamcast's development. Very little. Soichiro Iwajiri was in charge of the project.

And as for Satomi, sour grapes on your part. You've clearly ignored SEGA Sammy and the past half decade of their finances. Their much better and much more solid than CSK. Why don't you read their latest statement on the website? They not only have posted their 6th year of profit and good revenue, they've also just HIRED over a dozen new Officers and Managers to head newly formed company divisions that will be part of a new parent company.

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Originally Posted by sheath

It doesn't matter whether or not Pettus invented these quotes, until they are validated and cited we can rightly assume that he has skewed them to his narrative in some way. Thanks TA for the verification on that Okawa quote though. Where is that picture from?

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Its from EDGE Issue Feb 2003 and the EDGE Collectors Series: SEGA Saturn special feature

I should have known. ;)

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And TA, you are wrong about Okawa being the CEO of SEGA

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I'm sure you do this to wind people up . CSK bought the biggest stake of SEGA in 1983/4 and the boss of CSK (and so SEGA) was Okawa-san

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And Okawa had little to do with Dreamcast's development

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No he just funded the development of the system - big vital difference .

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Their much better and much more solid than CSK

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Not at all . SEGA posted more rounds of profits under CSK than they did under Sammy and they made the better games too .

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They not only have posted their 6th year of profit and good revenue

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Read it again . SEGA made a loss the other year- It also had to cut staff and slash its R&D budget under Sammy and that's shown in SEGA output or lack of

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Originally Posted by Team Andromeda

I'm sure you do this to wind people up . CSK bought the biggest stake of SEGA in 1983/4 and the boss of CSK (and so SEGA) was Okawa-san



No he just funded the development of the system - big vital difference .



Not at all . SEGA posted more rounds of profits under CSK than they did under Sammy and they made the better games too .



Read it again . SEGA made a loss the other year- It also had to cut staff and slash its R&D budget under Sammy and that's shown in SEGA output or lack of

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You mean FY 2012. It was a relatively tiny operating loss on their multiplatform division. SEGASammy actually recieved back $2 billion from shuttering their multiplatform retail market. SEGA now has $6 billion in cash. They also have LARGER capital than CSK.

CSK made healthy profit until 1997. That was when SEGA starting hemorrhaging money. In 5 years time, SEGA bleed over a billion dollars in CSK and nearly bankrupted their core Amusement market, under Satomi's direction, SEGA completely stopped all bleeding in the same time frame, built capital that will now them to venture into new markets and only took a minuscule loss on one of the smallest, least relavant departments of the whole compay. SEGASammy's revenue comes from OUTSIDE of software publishing.

You do know that SEGA is in black and has very miniscule debt of $500 million that will be fully cleared by 2014, right?(Looks like they're finally clearing out that $3 billion donut hole Okawa left them with 12 years ago.)

Or course SEGA made better games as CSK, they make better IPs when they have their own hardware to work with.

SEGA's 3rd party games aren't that good because SEGA is supposed to be a 1st party company. They were always a hardware company. A large Amusement global giant counts as a hardware company. Their non 1st party games were never that good to begin with.

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Originally Posted by Blades

There's humor in those shows?

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Originally Posted by Rusty Venture

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I've been watching Family Guy since 2004(when its syndicated run was opening the door for its return) and the episodes since about 2010 have been hit or miss at best. Season 9(2009-10) seems to have been its peak.

American Dad was SHIT for the first 3 years.(Cop-out writing,poor humor,messy character development). Then it 2008, it started gradually improving. Since 2010, its gotten better and has focused strongly on character development.

Cleveland is the Simpsons alternative. Semi-decent.

The Simpsons are old,stale,tired and moldy. It is seriously TIME for FOX to pull the plug. It's been 6 years long overdue. A show that has run for almost 24 years nonstop is BEGGING for cancellation. This show debuted when I was 7 in 1990. Now, THAT'S pathetic.

People find the Cleveland Show funny? Who knew!

Cleveland Show has its moments.

I quote Family Guy often, but there is a lack of quotable stuff from the more recent seasons.

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You mean FY 2012. It was a relatively tiny operating loss on their multiplatform division. SEGASammy actually recieved back $2 billion from shuttering their multiplatform retail market. SEGA now has $6 billion in cash. They also have LARGER capital than CSK

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Like with your facts on Hardware you just seem to pluck any figures from fresh air . No I'm Sorry the SEGA group made a loss in 2011, 2008 (where it lost Half a billion dollars) it posted a loss for 2009 too and there's been more and that's with out selling Hardware which is was cost CSK dear in the late 90's . And SEGA with 6 billion in the bank -lol That's why its all but closed down most it's divisions in Europe, America and where only the UK is spared , why SEGA won't fund Shenmue III or even fund Bayonetta II it's self.

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SEGA's 3rd party games aren't that good because SEGA is supposed to be a 1st party company.

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SEGA can make great 3rd party games when it's allowed and the teams are allowed to make the games they want to make . Games like SEGA GT 2002, HOTD 3, Yakuza, Orta, Monkey Ball, F-Zero GX, JSRF and so on are all brilliant . Trouble with Sammy is they have made SEGA play safe , focus on the HH market and Japan and slashed the funding to the R&D Teams and its shown in SEGA output , Sammy even made sure SEGA it's using the most powerful boards in the Arcades anymore where TATIO type X system boats the most power

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Originally Posted by Team Andromeda

Like with your facts on Hardware you just seem to pluck any figures from fresh air . No I'm Sorry the SEGA group made a loss in 2011, 2008 (where it lost Half a billion dollars) it posted a loss for 2009 too and there's been more and that's with out selling Hardware which is was cost CSK dear in the late 90's . And SEGA with 6 billion in the bank -lol That's why its all but closed down most it's divisions in Europe, America and where only the UK is spared , why SEGA won't fund Shenmue III or even fund Bayonetta II it's self.



SEGA can make great 3rd party games when it's allowed and the teams are allowed to make the games they want to make . Games like SEGA GT 2002, HOTD 3, Yakuza, Orta, Monkey Ball, F-Zero GX, JSRF and so on are all brilliant . Trouble with Sammy is they have made SEGA play safe , focus on the HH market and Japan and slashed the funding to the R&D Teams and its shown in SEGA output , Sammy even made sure SEGA it's using the most powerful boards in the Arcades anymore where TATIO type X system boats the most power

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Your posts are full of inaccuracies and misinformation. SEGA has been posting gains for 4 years o
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Amusement centers being closed down? LOL, the last time they did that was during the 2007 FY. They've opened dozens of new ones since then. A loss in 2011? Wrong. They posted a $5 billion dollar revenue that year.

Taito's board more powerful?HA!Nonsense. What? You're till living in 2010? I guess you missed the "RingEdge 2". The only Arcade board capable of DX11 and UE3 known to exist currently . Your statement is not only wrong, its downright exaggerated and outlandish.

SEGA shutting down those European development studios last year is both something they've planned for a long time and is also the best thing financially to happen to them.

No, SEGA has zero business making software for other consoles. Ten years ago, it was something they had to do to survive, they no longer need to. Henceforth is why they shuttered their 3rd party retail divisions.

It's clear to me that you like many others are completely uninformed about SEGA's current financial health and where they've been getting all their gains and they're capital has grown and why their revenue has been strong nonstop for 5 years. You know nothing about Sega Republic in Dubai, Sega China, The Korean Casino they opened 2 years ago, the fact that they own TMS Entertainment, or Sega Entertainment Corporation, LTD or the brand new "Orbi Earth" Musuem/Arcade hybrid.




I'm glad you and the rest of world is uninformed, because when SEGA breaks their silence on their full plans with the "Orbi" brand and finally starts explaining why they've been so quiet lately this whole month with no new game annoucements, hasn't revealed any plans for PS4/Xbox One and posted a teaser for a new project over a week ago and STILL hasn't said ANYTHING about it, there shall be a major Earthquake in the gaming and business world.


The world is about to learn soon just how unpredictable SEGA really is as a company.

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Originally Posted by Rusty Venture

Cleveland Show has its moments.

I quote Family Guy often, but there is a lack of quotable stuff from the more recent seasons.

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Cleveland is average, funny at times, mediocre sometimes.

American Dad was completely terrible the first 3 years its now watchable and enjoyable.

Family Guy has gone through a rollercoaster in regards to its writing. I'm not really sure it'll be able to recapture that magic from the earlier years, but I do think Seth should make a movie and do both a PG-13 and R rated cut. Cause there'd be alot of liberties he would be able to take.

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Originally Posted by Rusty Venture

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I'm trying to remember what show this is from..

^lazytown
its even in the name of the picture when you right click it

I don't know why the internet had such a fascination with the show, I just don't.

I was randomly flipping channels on Saturday morning and saw that re-runs of it are on. I laughed my ass off, because it randomly happened to be the episode where she sings about being a pirate. And that song always makes me think of this animation.