EGM Buyers Guide System Reviews and Game Reviews 1989 to 2001
People complained I put parts or most of this in their thread, so now I'm making it its own thread. EGM system and game reviews from 1989 to 2001. If anybody wants to add to it, please do. This is meant to be Sega related.
- 1993 -
Game of the Year - Street Fighter II (SNES)
SNES GOTY - Street Fighter II Genesis GOTY - Sonic the Hedgehog 2
NES GOTY - TMNT 3
TurboGrafx GOTY - Air Zonk Portable GOTY - Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (GG)
RPG of the Year - Cosmic Fantasy 2 (TG16) Sports Game of the Year - John Madden '93 (GEN/SNES)
Action/Adventure Game of the Year - Super Star Wars (SNES)
Most Innovative New Game - Out of this World
Best Graphics - Viewpoint (NG)
Best Music - Viewpoint (Cart) / Gate of Thunder (CD)
Best Video Game System - Super NES Best New Peripheral - Sega CD
Best Sequel - A Link to the Past (SNES)
Most Number of Sequels - Mega Man 5 (NES)
Best Ending - Street Fighter II (SNES) Best New Character - Tails (GEN)
Hottest Babe - TIE: Chun Li / Blaze (Streets of Rage 2)
Video Game Babes to Hot for the U.S. - Dragon Knight 2 (PCE) Best Licensed Game - Batman Returns (GEN)
Best Movie-to-Game - Super Star Wars (SNES)
Best Cartoon-to-Game - Death Valley Driver
Strangest License - Incredible Crash Test Dummies
Best Game System That is a Year Late - Super SNES CD-ROM
Worst Sequel - Home Alone 2
Best Trick that Didn't Work - Sheng Long in Street Fighter II
Worst Movie-to-Game - The Rocketeer Most Lawsuits - Sega
Dumbest Lawsuit - Sega vs. Jan Coyle
Best Game that Never Came out in the U.S. - Parodius (SNES?)
Best Game Rumor - Street Fighter II for Genesis and Turbo Duo / Street Fighter III for the arcades
- 1994 -
Game of the Year - Samurai Shodown (Neo-Geo)
SNES GOTY - Street Fighter 2 Turbo Genesis GOTY - Aladdin
Sega CD GOTY - Sonic CD
TurboGrafx GOTY - Bomberman '93
Neo-Geo GOTY - Samurai Shodown
NES GOTY - Kirby's Adventure
Game Boy GOTY - Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening Game Gear GOTY - Sonic Chaos
Best RPG - Secret of Mana (SNES)
Best Fighting Game - Samurai Shodown (Neo-Geo)
Best Shooter - StarFox (SNES) Best Action Game - GunStar Heroes (GEN)
Best Sports Game - Madden '94 (GEN/SNES)
Best Driving Game - Rock and Roll Racing (SNES)
Best SF2 Wannabee - Clay Fighter (SNES) Bloodiest Game - Robocop vs. The Terminator (GEN)
Best New Character - Aero the Acrobat (SNES)
Hottest Game Hunk - Goro (Mortal Kombat)
Hottest Game Babe - Cammy (Super Street Fighter II Turbo)
Most Hype for a Character - Bubsy
Dumbest Peripherials - Sega's/EA's four Players Adapter (Genesis)
Most Controversial Game - Mortal Kombat
Worst System Launch - 3DO
Game Company with Worst Reputation - THQ
Most Improved Game Company - THQ
Best Trick That Didn't Work - Street Fighter II (Arcade)
Best Music - Actraiser 2 (SNES)
Best Sound Effects - Clay Fighter Best Animation - Aladdin (GEN)
Most Lawsuits - Nintendo vs. Atari Best Lawsuit Results - Sega vs. Accolade
Best AD - Clay Fighter
Best Movie to Game - Aladdin (GEN)
Worst Movie to Game - Home Alone 2 (SNES)
Best Game Duo - Pocky & Rocky (SNES)
Most Sports Sequels - John Madden '94
- 1995 -
Game of the Year - Donkey Kong Country (SNES)
SNES GOTY - Donkey Kong Country Genesis GOTY - Earthworm Jim
Sega CD GOTY- Ground Zero: Texas
3DO GOTY - Road Rash
Neo-Geo GOTY - King of Fighters '94
Jaguar GOTY - Tempest 2000
Game Boy GOTY - Donkey Kong '94 Game Gear GOTY - Bubble Bobble
CD-I GOTY - Burn: Cycle
Best Fighting Game - King of Fighters ' 94 (Neo-Geo)
Best Shooter - R-Type III (SNES)
Best Action Game - Super Metroid (SNES)
Best Sports Game - NBA Jam (SNES)
Best Driving Game - Road Rash (3DO)
Best RPG - Final Fantasy III (SNES) Best New Character - Earthworm Jim (GEN)
Bloodiest Game - Mortal Kombat II (Arcade)
Most Improved Company - Takara
Hottest Game Hunk - (Tie) EGM's Al Manuel & U.S. Gold's Incredible Hulk
Hottest Game Babe - Mai Shiranui
Best Shooter (Japanese) - Macross: Scrambled Valkyrie (SNES)
Best RPG (Japanese) - Final Fantasy VI (SNES)
Best Action Game (Japanese) - Dracula X (PCE)
Best Music Cartridge - Final Fantasy III (SNES)
Best Music CD - Road Rash (3DO)
Best Sound Effects - Sparkster (SNES)
Best Animation - Donkey Kong Country (SNES)
Worst Movie to Game - Cliffhanger (SNES/GEN)
Best Movie to Game - Super Return of the Jedi (SNES)
Best Game Duo - Donkey & Diddy Kong (SNES)
Best AD - Equniox (SNES)
Most Appalling Trend - Too Many fighting Games
Trick of the Year (Arcade) - The Akuma Codes (Arcade)
Trick of the Year (Home Systems) - Megaman X's Fireball Trick (SNES)
Most Anticipated Release - Mortal Kombat II (Home Systems?) Grossest Character - Boogerman (GEN)
Worst System Lanuch - Jaguar
Strangest Game - Agressors of Dark Kombat (Neo-Geo)
SNES GOTY - Chrono Trigger
Arcade GOTY - Tekken 2 Genesis GOTY - Vectorman
Playstation GOTY - Twisted Metal Saturn GOTY - Panzer Dragoon
3DO GOTY - Gex
Virtual Boy - Red Alarm Sega CD GOTY - Lunar: Eternal Blue
32X GOTY - Virtual Fighter
Game Boy GOTY - Donkey Kong Land Game Gear GOTY - Super Return of the Jedi
Neo-Geo GOTY - King of Fighters '95
Jaguar GOTY - Cannon Fodder
Best Fighting Game - Battle Arena Tochinden (PSX)
Best RPG - Chrono Trigger (SNES)
Best Flight Sim - Air Combat (PSX)
Best Action Game - Yoshi's Island (SNES)
Best Sports Game - NFL GameDay (PSX)
Best Driving Game - Ridge Race (PSX)
Best Shooter - Philosoma (PSX)
Best New Character - Rayman
Best Game Hunk - Fo (Toshinden)
Best Game Babe - Sophia (Toshinden)
Best Sound Effects - Twicted Metal (PSX)
Best Music Cartridge - Chrono Trigger (SNES)
Best Music CD-Rom - Rayman (PSX/SAT?)
Best Animation - Rayman (PSX/SAT?)
Beat Peripheral - PSX Memory Card
Best Movie to Game - True Lies (GEN/SNES)
Worst Movie to Game - Batman Forever (PSX)
Best AD - Loaded (PSX)
Best Game Intro - Philosoma (PSX)
Worst System Lanuch - Jaguar CD
Most Anticipated Release Software - Mortal Kombat 3 (Home Version)
Most Anticipated Release Hardware - Playstation
Strangest Game - Jumping Flash (PSX)
Worst Sequel - Batman Forever (PSX)
Biggest Game Flop - Mazer (by American Lazer Games) Most System Peripherals - Sega: Activator, Mencer
Game on Most Systems - Myst
(System Scores - Andrew / Mark / Mike / Scott)
Super Nintendo - 7 / 8 / 7 / 8 Genesis - 6 / 4 / 5 / 6
Playstation - 9 / 10 / 9 / 9 Saturn - 8 / 6 / 7 / 8
Sega CD - 2 / 2 / 3 / 3
32X - 3 / 3 / 3 / 2
Neo-Geo CD - 6 / 7 / 7 / 7
3DO - 7 / 5 / 6 / 7
Jaguar - 2 / 2 / 3 / 3
Virtual Boy - 5 / 6 / 5 / 5
Game Boy - 5 / 6 / 4 / 4 Game Gear - 7 / 7 / 7 / 8
- 1997 -
Game Most Bought by EGM staff - Tetris Attack (SNES)
Worst Game for Kids - Virtua Fighter Kids (SAT)
Biggest Vaporware - M2
Game Company with most Promise - Capcom
Most Killing in a Game - Die Hard Trilogy (PSX)
Best Sound Effects - Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire (N64)
Game System with One Foot in the Grave - 3DO
Hottest Game Hunk - Oliems (Tobal No. 1 / PSX)
Hottest Game Babe - Lara Croft (Tomb Raider / PSX/ SAT)
Deadest System of the Year - Jaguar
Most Addictive Game - Tetris Attack (SNES)
Worst Sequel - Rise 2 (3DO)
Strangest Enemy - Walking Butts (PO'ed / 3DO)
Best Introduction - Gun Griffon (SAT)
Game That The Pope Wouldn't Buy - Re-Loaded (PSX) Full Frontal Nudity - Three Dirty Dwarves (SAT)
Best Ending - Tekken 2 (PSX) Best Print Ad - Sega Saturn
Weirdest Print Ad - Krazy Ivan (PSX)
Worst Voice Acting - Resident Evil (PSX)
Best Packaging - Psychopad K.O.
Worst Packaging - Psychopad K.O.
Most Military Propganda - Return Fire (3DO)
Anti-Drug Message - Black Dawn (PSX/SAT)
Coolest Fighting Game Move - King's OctopusCombo (Tekken 2 PSX) Worst Game Based on a Movie - Congo (SAT)
Game that Should Have Stayed on the PC - System Shock (SAT)
Biggest Cross Platform Title - Mortal Kombat Series Best Sports Game for People Who Don't Like Sports - Decathlete (SAT)
Most Educational Game - Baku Baku Animal (SAT)
Best Television Ad - Crash Bandicoot (PSX)
(System Scores - Dan Hsu / Crispin Boyer / Shawn Smith / Sushi-X)
Nintendo 64 - 7.5 / 10 / 9.5 / 9.0
Playstation - 8.0 / 9.0 / 8.0 / 8.5 Sega Saturn - 7.5 / 7.0 / 6.5 / 7.0
Virtual Boy - 3.0 / 2.0 / 2.5 / 2.0
Game Gear - 5.5 / 4.0 / 5.0 / 8.5
Game Boy Pocket - 4.5 / 7.5 / 8.0 / 7.0
Sega Nomad - 7.5 / 6.0 / 5.5 / 7.5
Super Nintendo - 9.0 / 8.0 / 8.0 / 7.5 Genesis - 4.5 / 4.0 / 4.5 / 4.0
3DO - 3.5 / 3.5 / 3.0 / 3.5
Neo-Geo CD - 4.5 - 4.0 - 5.5 - 5.0
- 1998 -
Game Most Bought by the EGM Staff - Mario Kart 64 (N64)
Most Addictive Game - GoldenEye 007 (N64)
Biggest Vaporware - M2
Best Voice Acting - Oddworld: Abe;s Oddysee (PSX)
Worst Voice Acting - Mega Man 8 (PSX/SAT)
Best Middle - Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (PSX)
Worst Makeover: Pandemonium's Nikka (PSX)
Back from the Dead - Game Boy (Pocket)
Games That Should've Stayed on the PC - Hexen
Games That Should've Stayed in the Acrade - War Gods
Most Diarrhea in a Game - PaRappa the Rapper (PSX)
Coolest PR Goodies - E3: Resident Evil Squishy Eye
EGM's Favorite Non Work Related Activity - Decapitato
Worst Music - NASCAR '98 (PSX)
Hottest Game Babe - Tifa Lockheart (FF7/PSX)
Hottest Game Hunk - John Madden (Madden '98)
Most Overexposed - Lara Croft
Best Movie to Game - Goldeneye 007 (N^$)
Worst Movie to Game - The Crow: City of Angels (PSX)
Worst Use of a Good License - Fantastic Four (PSX)
Worst Use of Adam West - Golden Nugget (PSX)
Most Hype for a Game - Final Fantasy VII (PSX)
Best Sequel - Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (PSX)
Most Disappointing Sequel - FIFA 64 (N64)
Biggest Reason For Missed Deadlines - Goldeneye 007 (N64)
Best use of Silicon - Lara Croft (PSX)
Best Cure for Insomnia - Tail of the Sun (PSX)
Best Intro - Soul Blade (PSX)
Worst Intro - The Crow: City of Angles (PSX)
Best Ending - Final Fantasy VII (PSX)
Game You Need a Ph.D to Play - Carnage Hearts (PSX)
Best Use of Treats - Harvest Moon (SNES)
Most Promising Game Company - Rare
Biggest 180-Degree Turnaround - Acclaim
Best Print Ad - Final Fantasy VII (PSX)
Worst Print Ad - Nanotek Warrior
- 1999 -
Game Most Bought by the EGM Staff - Tekken 3 (PSX)
Best Party Game - WCW/nWo Revenge (N64)
Biggest Vaporware - N64DD
Coolest Gosses G. Darius (PSX)
Worst Use of a License - Spawn (PSX)
Worst Music - Spice Girls
Retro Game That Should've Stayed Retro - Pitfall 3D (PSX)
Best Artwork - Metal Gear Solid (PSX)
Game Most Likely to Drive You Lnsane - Colony Wars: Vengeance (PSX)
Game That Should've Stayed in the Arcades - San Francisco Rush (N64)
Best Butt Shot - Metal Gear Solid (PSX)
Worst NFL Bliz Rip-Off - NFL Xtreme (PSX)
Best Showing of Wood - Mokujin (Tekken 3/PSX)
Best Cure for Insomnia - Legend of the River King (GB)
Hottest Game Babe - Tiffany (Rival Schools/PSX)
Hottest Game Hunk - Mokujin (Tekken 3/PSX)
Most Annoying Character - Brian (Quest 64/N64)
Best Voice Work - Metal Gear Solid (PSX)
Worst Voice Work - The Grandstream Saga (PSX)
Best Voice Work w/o Real Voices - Banjo-Kazooie (N64)
Most Hype for a Game - Metal Gear Solid (PSX)
Best Play-by-Play - NHL 99 (PSX)
Best Sequel - Tekken 3 (PSX)
Most Disappointing Sequel - Yoshi's Island 64 (N64)
Best Way to Destroy a Franchise - C: The Conta Advanture (PSX)
#1 Game We Love to Hate - NFL Xtreme (PSX)
#1 Game We Hate to Love - Jeopardy! (N64)
Best Ending - Metal Gear Solid (PSX)
Worst Ending - Quest 64 (N64)
Best Intro - Resident Evil 2 (PSX)
Best Special Effects - Metal Gear Solid (PSX)
The Fashionably Late Award - Body Harvest (N64)
Best Reason to Use a Mute Button - Gex 64 (N64)
Best Use of a Vibrator - Metal Gear Solid (PSX)
Most Improved - Tecmo
Best Print Ad - Trubo Prop Racing (PSX)
Worst Print Ad - Crach Bandicoot (PSX)
Game Bob Vila Would Enjoy Playing - WWF War Zone (N64/PSX)
Game Most Likely Yo Take Years To Finish - Zelda: The Ocarina of Time (N64)
(System Scores - John Davison / Dan Hsu / John Ricciardi / Shawn Smith / Sushi-X)
Playstation - 9.0 / 8.5 / 9.0 / 9.0 / 9.0
Nintendo 64 - 8.0 / 8.0 / 7.5 / 8.5 / 7.5
Game Boy Pocket - N/A / 4.5 / 8.0 / 7.5 / 2.0
Nomad - N/A / 6.0 / 6.5/ 6.5 / 6.0
- 2000 - Best Sequel - Soul Calibur (DC)
Worst Sequel - NFL Quarterback Club 2000 (N64)
Biggest Vaporware - Nuon
Most Hyped, Most Delayed - Perfect Dark (N64)
Best Party Game - You Don't Know Jack (PSX)
Most Ridiculously Ecpensive Game - Donkey Kong 64 (N64)
Most Number of Sequels Within a Sequel Street Fighter 3rd Strike (AC)
Retro Game that Should've Stayed Retro - Centipede (DC/PSX)
Game Most Bought by the EGM Staff - Soul Calibur (DC)
Most Innovative Controls - Ape Excape (PSX)
Worst Use of a License - Superman (N64)
Coolest Japanese Game (That Will Never Come Out Here) - Pepsi Man (PSX)
Game Most in Need of a Director's Cut - Lok: Soul Reaver (PSX)
Most Worthless Accessory - Dance Performer (by Naki)
Game Franchise We're Most Sick Of - Mortal Kombat
So Cute It Makes Us Sick - Pokemon Snap (N64)
Best Reason to Grow a Mullet - NASCAR 2000 (PSX)
Best Reason for Kryptonite - Superman (N64)
Most Blantant Pimping of a Mascot Character - Chocobo in Chocobo Racing (PSX)
Game that Should've Been the Coolest but was Crap - Superman (N64) Hottest Game Babe - Soul Calibur Gals (DC)
Hottest Game Hunk - E-Sak of WWF Attitude (N64) Best Dressed - The House of the Dead 2 Crew (DC)
Best Game for Lesbians - Xena: Warrior Princess (PSX)
Biggest Comeback - Sonic the Hedgehog
Most Blantant Rip-Off - Donkey Kong 64 ripping off BanjoKazooie ripping off Super Mario 64
Hardest Game - Choanki: Great Brother (PSX/JPN)
Biggest Loser in this Year's Awards - Superman (N64)
(System Scores - Che Chou / John Davison / Dan Hsu / Chris Johnson / Shawn Smith) Dreamcast - 8.5 / 8.5 / 8.5 / 8.0 / 9.0
Playstation - 9.0 / 9.5 / 8.0 / 9.0 / 8.5
Nintendo 64 - 9.5 / 8.5 / 8.0 / 6.0 / 6.5
Game Boy Color - 9.0 / 9.0 / 3.5 / 9.0 / 6.0
- 2001 - Most Disappointing Sports Title - World Series Baseball 2001 (DC)
Biggest Time Sucker - RPG Maker (PSX)
Best Sequel - Chrono Cross (PSX) Game You Either Love or Leave - Ecco the Dolphin (DC)
Hardest Game - Alien Resurrection (PSX)
Most Disappointing Sequel - Legend of Mana (PSX)
Hottest Game Babe- Ulala (Space Channel 5/DC)
Most Innovative - Seaman (DC)
Hottest Game Hunk - Tony Hawk
Best Mullet Placement - Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 (DC/PSX)
EGM Editor's Most Bought Game - Perfect Dark (N64)
Best Game for Making Your Own Game - RPG Maker (PSX)
Best Sound Effects - Medal of Honor: Underground (PSX)
Less Is More Award - Ms. Pac-Man Maze Madness (PSX)
So Cute it Made us Sick - PS One (Hardware) Ad We Never Want To See Again - Sega's Virtua Tennis Ad
(System Scores - Kraig Kujawa / Dan Leahy / Mark MacDonald / Greg Sewart / Michael Stassus)
Playstation 2 - 9.0 / 9.0 / 6.5 / 8.5 / 9.0
Playstation - 9.5 / 6.0 / 9.0 / 9.5 / 8.0
PC Computers - 6.5 / 7.5 / 6.0 / 6.5 / 8.0
Nintendo 64 - 8.0 / 6.0 / 5.0 / 7.0 / 6.0
Game Boy Color - 7.5 / 7.0 / 7.0 / 8.0 / 7.0 Dreamcast - 9.0 / 9.0 / 9.0 / 9.0 / 9.5
There is no way the SNES is pulling those scores all the way into 1997. Scoring close to the PSX? No.
I know its the "reviewers" score/opinion, but I found some further evidence to back up my complete dismissal of EGM after all.
08-07-2013, 02:53 AM
Blades
Those aren't bad marks for the Genesis too, considering the Saturn was almost gone and Dreamcast was on the horizon in 1998.
08-07-2013, 04:29 AM
A Black Falcon
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Originally Posted by Rusty Venture
There is no way the SNES is pulling those scores all the way into 1997. Scoring close to the PSX? No.
I know its the "reviewers" score/opinion, but I found some further evidence to back up my complete dismissal of EGM after all.
Remember that the buyers' guides these scores appeared in released early in the listed year, so those scores really are for the previous year. And the SNES had a pretty good lineup in 1996! That score was well earned.
08-07-2013, 09:54 AM
DJ_Convoy
Poor Master System gets no love.
08-07-2013, 01:26 PM
Rusty Venture
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Originally Posted by A Black Falcon
Remember that the buyers' guides these scores appeared in released early in the listed year, so those scores really are for the previous year. And the SNES had a pretty good lineup in 1996! That score was well earned.
I just think its insulting to give a system relegated to budget gaming a score close to what was the top system at the time. I don't know how you can have high scores for a system with clearly diminishing game output. They ragged the NES during its final years, but somehow the SNES seems awesome compared to superior systems with far better 3D output? No.
08-07-2013, 02:42 PM
Vector2013
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Originally Posted by Rusty Venture
I just think its insulting to give a system relegated to budget gaming a score close to what was the top system at the time. I don't know how you can have high scores for a system with clearly diminishing game output. They ragged the NES during its final years, but somehow the SNES seems awesome compared to superior systems with far better 3D output? No.
Exactly.
Of course the scores of let's say "what system to get in 1992, check our review" was printed in Dec 1991.
That year (1992 buyers guide) they ALL stated the snes has horrible slowdown and Genesis is king, then look what happened after.
But the SNES was getting 8's and 9's while the Genesis was getting 5's and 4's (3 years in a row) in those same 3 years (while basically systems were dying/on life support) snes was still getting 9's, 8's and 7's.
Sushi X was the only one to give the Genesis a 7 in 1997 when Genesis 3 released, the only 7 in 3 years. Yet SNES got 8's.
A 16 bit system get's an 8 when the Saturn is slipping ? For, uh, what sfa2 ?
ABF, what did you think of Bernie statement around 1997 ?
08-07-2013, 02:55 PM
A Black Falcon
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rusty Venture
I just think its insulting to give a system relegated to budget gaming a score close to what was the top system at the time. I don't know how you can have high scores for a system with clearly diminishing game output. They ragged the NES during its final years, but somehow the SNES seems awesome compared to superior systems with far better 3D output? No.
In 1996, the SNES saw releases in the US including Kirby Super Star, Street Fighter Alpha 2, Final Fight 3, Mega Man X3, Super Mario RPG, Lufia 2: Rise of the Sinistrals, Tetris Attack, and Donkey Kong Country 3. That's nobody's idea of a "budget" lineup, and it's a lot better than, say, the NES's lineups in 1992 or 1993. It may be better than the NES in 1991 too.
In comparison, about all the Genesis had for major exclusives that year were Vectorman 2, Sonic 3D Blast, and maybe Virtua Fighter 2...
08-07-2013, 02:57 PM
Black_Tiger
Best RPG Video Game: Ultima NES
Most Challenging Video Game: Phantasy Star
EGM`s illogical reviewing from day one kept it from being taken too seriously.
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Originally Posted by A Black Falcon
Remember that the buyers' guides these scores appeared in released early in the listed year, so those scores really are for the previous year. And the SNES had a pretty good lineup in 1996! That score was well earned.
It`s not the scores given to the SNES that don`t make sense, it`s how they compare to how they scored everything else all along.
08-07-2013, 03:03 PM
Vector2013
3 years, not just 1996.
08-07-2013, 03:50 PM
Black_Tiger
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Originally Posted by A Black Falcon
In 1996, the SNES saw releases in the US including Kirby Super Star, Street Fighter Alpha 2, Final Fight 3, Mega Man X3, Super Mario RPG, Lufia 2: Rise of the Sinistrals, Tetris Attack, and Donkey Kong Country 3. That's nobody's idea of a "budget" lineup, and it's a lot better than, say, the NES's lineups in 1992 or 1993. It may be better than the NES in 1991 too.
In comparison, about all the Genesis had for major exclusives that year were Vectorman 2, Sonic 3D Blast, and maybe Virtua Fighter 2...
In 1993, the NES received scores of 4 4 4 5 and for 1994 it received 3 4 4 5
In 1993, the NES saw releases in NA including Batman Returns, Alien3, Mickey's Safari in Letterland, Zen: Intergalactic Ninja, Tiny Toon Adventures 2, Yoshi's Cookie, Kirbie's Adventure, Battletoads & Double Dragon, DuckTales 2, Mighty Final Fight, Bubble Bobble 2, and Tetris 2.
Here are quotes from each EGM reviewer (except Sushi-X) that give insight to just how impartial EGM's reviewers were one year (1996?):
"The Genesis almost always had graphics and sound that weren't anywhere near as good as the Super NES."
"Still, I can't give the Genesis a very high score because the system doesn't bring a nostalgic tear to me eye like a SNES does."
"Of course, the system's small color palette and awful sound chip make the Genesis look extremely dated, even when compared to the Super NES."
"You Genesis fans are going to kill me for saying this, but I never really caught on as to why the Genny was such a big deal. ...I really can't think of many reasons why I'd recommend one to anyone when the Super NES can be found for just as cheap almost anywhere."
Only the most reality separated SNES fanboy can't see what they literally spell out for readers.
08-07-2013, 04:00 PM
A Black Falcon
Quote:
Originally Posted by Black_Tiger
In 1993, the NES received scores of 4 4 4 5 and for 1994 it received 3 4 4 5
In 1993, the NES saw releases in NA including Batman Returns, Alien3, Mickey's Safari in Letterland, Zen: Intergalactic Ninja, Tiny Toon Adventures 2, Yoshi's Cookie, Kirbie's Adventure, Battletoads & Double Dragon, DuckTales 2, Mighty Final Fight, Bubble Bobble 2, and Tetris 2.
Some of those NES games are good, but most aren't at the level of the 1996 SNES library... but you're right, considering the quality of that library, those NES scores are a bit low. I can understand it though, by 1992-1993 (the years those "1993" and "1994" guides would be for) the NES was seven and eight years old. In comparison, in 1996 the SNES was only five years old. You'll notice that in '97 the SNES's scores definitely decline, both because of the much thinner release list that year, because the N64 had released, and because the system was now beyond five years old (that being a common generational divide line).
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Here are quotes from each EGM reviewer (except Sushi-X) that give insight to just how impartial EGM's reviewers were one year (1996?):
"The Genesis almost always had graphics and sound that weren't anywhere near as good as the Super NES."
"Still, I can't give the Genesis a very high score because the system doesn't bring a nostalgic tear to me eye like a SNES does."
"Of course, the system's small color palette and awful sound chip make the Genesis look extremely dated, even when compared to the Super NES."
"You Genesis fans are going to kill me for saying this, but I never really caught on as to why the Genny was such a big deal. ...I really can't think of many reasons why I'd recommend one to anyone when the Super NES can be found for just as cheap almost anywhere."
Only the most reality separated SNES fanboy can't see what they literally spell out for readers.
Sure, I agree that after 1991, EGM clearly turned against the Genesis (remember that they do say it's the top system in 1990 and 1991, though). No question. But look at their favorite system list... Genesis 1990-1991, SNES 1992-1995, PS1 1996, N64 1997, PS1 again 1998-2000... tracking pretty close to public opinion there, other than a bit lower than average opinion of the Genesis after 1991.
08-08-2013, 02:44 AM
Vector2013
Sheath and most of you guys, here, are right. The truth is staring everybody right in the face. Genesis was gold man, flicking off NES, after 1 SHOCKING egm review over snes, it got shitted on basically after that yet was still popular against snes. Did snes have 1 or 2 more years better like in 1995 when Donkey Kong or sequels was big then in 1996, sure I agree those and sfa2 on snes was cool and better than genesis line up during 16 bit deathbed (remember X Perts). But Vectorman 1&2, Comix Zone, VR, and others were no joke either. But what system lasted longer. Yup, the genesis. But did genesis FOR 3 YEARS deserve 5's and 4's while snes got 9's and 8's against 32 bit systems ? Fuck no.
01-14-2018, 09:54 PM
Vector
So in late 1996 (for 1997 buyers guide) the SNES got higher scores than Saturn with Virtua Cop, Fighting Vipers, Daytona USA, Virtua Fighter 2, Sega Rally, Knights, Fighters Megamix, Panzer Dragoon 2, Quake, Guardian Heroes, Die Hard Arcade, (arcade perfect*) SF Alpha 2, Netlink internet and VCD movie capabilities etc. Riiight. :roll:
I would dare say a Saturn with Rhea or Phoebe sd and isos is "better" than a SNES its library. Sonic Jam for my 2d Sonic needs, astral or metal slug for 2d action, Shinobi Legions or Guardians for 2d beat em up, shmups, fighters, racers, movie watching...maybe that is my Sega bias talking. But think about it. :cool:
"SNES > Genesis/Saturn/Dreamcast combined, blah blah Earthbound/Mother 2 140,000 sales > any game ever made blah blah" - Internet
"I admit the SNES was around before I was born but I still remember trying to play Earthbound while in my moms tummy when she played it because I knew the SNES was a classic console with a classic library with no rival" - Youtubers
Post # 1 has everything in detail I scanned or gathered up from internet.
01-15-2018, 02:19 AM
BonusKun
Damn this was an ancient bump but I'm fine with this seeing as the post pertains to what's happening. Maybe someone can answer this before I seriously do some post digging. Why was Vector2013 banned? I remember him from a long time ago but going thru his post history I don't see anything that merited it. Maybe he posted nudes that got deleted?
I've been starting to consider doing a little clean up in the bannings and see who might actually be worth giving a second chance to.
01-15-2018, 03:18 AM
Vector
Quote:
Originally Posted by BonusKun
Damn this was an ancient bump but I'm fine with this seeing as the post pertains to what's happening. Maybe someone can answer this before I seriously do some post digging. Why was Vector2013 banned? I remember him from a long time ago but going thru his post history I don't see anything that merited it. Maybe he posted nudes that got deleted?
I've been starting to consider doing a little clean up in the bannings and see who might actually be worth giving a second chance to.
I'm Vector. I'll explain further, I just wrote a paragraph explaining everything but my windows 10 crashed and now I have to rewrite everything again.
Can't edit post 1 so I'll put those pics here instead.
Anyway, sorry for the wait and edit but hopefully my windows doesn't crash during this text too ha (it was upgrading forever). I will try and keep this as short and accurate as I can (with proof).
I am vector(2013) aka djvectorman aka sunsfan. I was on like 5 Sega related forums and isozone as such. (Damn, for almost a decade now). But now I'm mainly just here. http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthr...orman-feedback https://dcemulation.org/phpBB/viewto...97250&start=40 ( the ancient thread I bumped there thread actually lead to a youtube video on subject =) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x5a0GcbweI&t=276s ) http://www.dcemu.co.uk/vbulletin/thr...post2148384632 http://forums.sega.com/showthread.ph...help-!!!/page2 https://dreamcast-talk.com/forum/vie...?t=4839#p55470 https://dreamcast-talk.com/forum/vie...=4829&start=30 http://www.theisozone.com/downloads/...smash-pack-15/ https://dreamcast-talk.com/forum/vie...=4829&start=20
etc.
I was hacked at 1 of the sites but the admin helped me out big time, I believe 3 fake accounts were created with different names and they even used and hacked my old email were I signed in from, they sent me his IP info as he hacked there before (I forget which site though). I think it was Mr Sega following me around on forums because I cursed him out and helped get him banned (everyone was tired of his Sega is coming back with a console thread and lies every month and misinformation on specs from past) from DC-Talk (he even followed me here). Anyway, I don't really want to repeat this but I don't want to be rude to you either so I'll answer you. I wasn't banned on any forum ever except here by Joe. I wasn't banned here for nudes (who was?), it was because Joe kept ignoring me when I asked him how he was able to convert his Game Sack episode to cinepak or answer where iso was because I wanted to see it play in Fusion for myself and I got upset (rude ignoring somebody 10 times). (The guy who converted the episode for Game Sack pm me here and we talked about a lot of things, cool guy, even sent me iso). Me and Joe argued, he suspended me 3 times with "I told you that were on thin ice before now you are suspended again act your age I got the last word and last laugh on you now ha ha!" or "Calm down, take 5 days off for you ha !" or "Stop cursing" yet cursing in replies to me https://ibb.co/eOBcXR even editing/erasing or asking him to erase my arguments towards him to help have less clutter in thread like we agreed. Then I asked him why a guy said something about him being creepy with kids or why the guy had a signature quote of Joe talking about kids and if it was creepy humor or what was it all about with a screenshot to back it up http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthr...l=1#post602060 , he got angry and edited one of my quotes in his posts to make it look like I said I molested kids http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthr...l=1#post602106 (which oddly says it was edited by Melf not Joe a year later "Last edited by Melf; 11-21-2014 at 06:15 PM") and I became angry and Joe banned me before he left site last time (ironically we all were discussing homebrew, old magazines like egm, sega visions like this thread in between arguing etc http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthr...l=1#post602093 ) after me, Tom, etc argued. I guess wayyy later after I was banned Joe had a meltdown, insulted site, insulted members and left. (He is back now, but I remember members upset at Joe's remarks). http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthr...l=1#post701486
Honestly those situations were awful all around tbh but later everything was water under bridge http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthr...l=1#post701752. Everything is still in the middle of Game Sack thread if you feel like digging, it was years ago. http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthr...l=1#post602606 I cleaned up my act, many people agreed my ban was unmerited (as you seemed to notice) and Melf let me back. I was accused of being like 10 other people or trolls on this site so Melf had to check everything out and saw I wasn't arguing etc with people in years, saw I wasn't other people, know I'm not trolling just asking questions here and agreed to let me back permanently under the name Vector now (I think there is another guy named vectormanbx here or something so I'm using just Vector here) and helped me with some things as we just recently talked. Melf can back me up on all this if you want to ask him, just pm him or others or just click the links above. I hoped I cleared everything up in detail and as shortly as I could (with links for proof if you don't want to dig). I have no problems with anybody here now, if somebody doesn't like me because of past or gets upset when I ask them directly why they seem to say things about me out the side of their neck though, I could care less. Thanks for checking out this thread bro, I remember you too BonusKun you were cool as hell man you basically only came into a thread if you had to and always gave good info (glad you are a super mod). IMO, there is important info in post 1 for members to see if they are interested. Do you agree BonusKun?
On that note, I'd like to keep this thread on topic and discuss EGM or other VG magazines or online articles mentioning Sega or having reviews on systems and etc. I do not wish to address the banning topic anymore. Do I have your support on that?
01-15-2018, 10:41 AM
Thief
Had (well still have at bro's place) EGM Buyers Guide from 1994 till 2000 something. Really enjoyed these yearly issues (namely the ones from the 90s). Well, outside of the Sega bashing, but that's how mags back then were and we just had to deal with it. Only mags that seemed to have loved Sega enough were GamePlayers and GameFan for us in Canada/US.
One cool thing I noticed in these Buyers Guides were Castlevania ranking very high or number one on the SNES/Genesis top 10 lists. As well as in the EGM issue 100 top 100 and issue 150 top 150. This made me a late comer to the two 16-Bit vania games having bought (first SCIV then Bloodlines) and played them well into the 32-Bit era. Why I didn't appreciate them as much back then as I do now.
01-15-2018, 11:44 AM
BonusKun
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vector
On that note, I'd like to keep this thread on topic and discuss EGM or other VG magazines or online articles mentioning Sega or having reviews on systems and etc. I do not wish to address the banning topic anymore. Do I have your support on that?
After reading your reply & digging a bit more I've decided to let sleeping dogs lie. I mulled over unbanning your old account but don't see a reason to anymore since this new account is the one you're active with now & we do have a very hard stance on people with duplicate accounts.
Anyways carry on with the thread and thank you for the explanation.
P.S. I was joking about the nudes posting.
01-16-2018, 03:42 AM
Vector
"Thief
Had (well still have at bro's place) EGM Buyers Guide from 1994 till 2000 something. Really enjoyed these yearly issues (namely the ones from the 90s). Well, outside of the Sega bashing, but that's how mags back then were and we just had to deal with it. Only mags that seemed to have loved Sega enough were GamePlayers and GameFan for us in Canada/US.
One cool thing I noticed in these Buyers Guides were Castlevania ranking very high or number one on the SNES/Genesis top 10 lists. As well as in the EGM issue 100 top 100 and issue 150 top 150. This made me a late comer to the two 16-Bit vania games having bought (first SCIV then Bloodlines) and played them well into the 32-Bit era. Why I didn't appreciate them as much back then as I do now. "
Yes, I really love the audio on Bloodlines (I think its perfect for the Genesis) and Pyron color hack...ha and I was very very late on Bloodlines as all I heard was SCIV or Rondo was thee end all be all but in the 2000s I found myself like the 8-bit like game play but with 16 bit ambiance when I played it on Smash Pack 1.5. My favorite Buyers Guide was one I bought in December 1991, I couldn't believe they said the SNES was slow and Genesis will outshine it ha but in the future history had other plans I guess. (Doc Brown face)
"BonusKun
After reading your reply & digging a bit more I've decided to let sleeping dogs lie. I mulled over unbanning your old account but don't see a reason to anymore since this new account is the one you're active with now & we do have a very hard stance on people with duplicate accounts.
Anyways carry on with the thread and thank you for the explanation.
P.S. I was joking about the nudes posting. "
Thank you bro. Yeah, I have no problem with old Vector account still being banned (I deserved it as I really dug into people even if I was just defending myself and no double accounts are allowed) as I'm active now on this one and things are cool here so it is cool, I appreciate the gesture and glad I could answer you thoroughly. What was your favorite EGM buyers guide bro?
01-16-2018, 10:15 AM
Thief
Wish I'd started collecting mags prior to 94. But from that I recall my fave being around the ballpark between 94 to 98, those were also the good ol' days for me. I also started missing nice drawn mag covers and in magazine artwork, as during the 32-Bit era more and more switched the poorer aging CGI art. :p
01-16-2018, 02:49 PM
BonusKun
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vector
What was your favorite EGM buyers guide bro?
Oh man I couldn't even remember which ones I read years ago. My palette was original for Gamefan Magazine since I actually knew/know a lot of the original editors from years ago. ECM, Kodomo, & Dangohead to name a few. Nowadays it's sad that we don't have much print media anymore but at the same time I knew it wouldn't last forever.
Gamefan had some of the best magazine layouts and spreads on their reviews bar-none.
01-16-2018, 03:23 PM
Thief
Did you know the Knightmare persona at GameFan? And yes, agree on the mag layout and reviews.
01-16-2018, 03:35 PM
Alianger
Bomberman 2 and Vectorman 2 in the top 10s of all time? Can't take these guys seriously.
01-16-2018, 03:36 PM
BonusKun
I've spoken to him maybe a few times. Why do you ask?
01-16-2018, 04:52 PM
Thief
He was the one pretty passionate about the Saturn on the issues I've had (last 96 to 98).
01-17-2018, 03:57 AM
Vector
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alianger
Bomberman 2 and Vectorman 2 in the top 10s of all time? Can't take these guys seriously.
Ha ha good point!
01-17-2018, 02:38 PM
Black_Tiger
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thief
He was the one pretty passionate about the Saturn on the issues I've had (last 96 to 98).
"It's all about Jevons control!"
01-17-2018, 08:32 PM
BubsyFan1
Grandia was the number one most anticipated game for the Saturn in 1998. Aww...
