I think the big disconnect between Nintendo fans and reality is Nintendo is sort of content not to rule the world of video games and instead carve out a profitable niche and stick to it. It got them through the N64 and Gamecube days just fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pulstar
It seems like Nintendo can accept sitting comfortably in the back, doing well enough for itself, but its fans cannot. They cling to the nostalgia jaded image they have in their heads of NES and SNES era Nintendo.
That's a big 180 from when Howard Lincoln was working for Nintendo. He wanted to torpedo the entire game industry in front of congress just to get market share.
I'm not a Nintendo hater or fanboy, but I think Nintendo is in a lot of trouble, and I think industry followers are concerned as well (not just fanboys). They have always been able to sit back and be content with whatever happened in the console market since the emergence of the Gameboy. In recent years, their handheld market has started to wane due to the rise tablets and smart phones. The 3DS just isn't selling as well as the DS did, and there's obviously no competition from the Vita. The market for a dedicated handheld is shrinking at the same time that Nintendo laid its biggest egg on the console market. Not a good combo for the Big N.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obviously
Even their "lackluster" consoles had some success; I remember excitement for the N64 due to the handful of landmark titles. The Gamecube did a workmanlike job in third place during that generation. The Wii U, barring a significant turnaround, looks to be a huge flop, with no interest at launch and nothing to save it on the horizon. They may be able to gain profitability through their prolific IPs (Mario, Zelda, Metroid), but I think that mojo might be fading as people have played those games in so many different forms through the years.
I don't think Nintendo is done, but they do have to reevaluate their business model. "Sitting comfortably in the back" is not a good way to ensure success. They innovated with the Wii to great success, and they will have to do better than the Wii U and 3DS to remain relevant in the gaming space.
Nintendo 2DS? What's next, Nintendo 1DS? This time aimed for fetuses.
Or how about the Nintendo NotForU? It's so light, no one gets to play it.
How about Nintendo DS One? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by QuickSciFi
Where is this big cult of Nintendo? I want to check it out. All I see are a few retards flapping their yaks on the internet.
the only thing that got them through the n64 and gamecube days fine was the game boy (advance) and the dsQuote:
Originally Posted by Obviously
sounds like you found their cultQuote:
Originally Posted by old man
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Originally Posted by sketch
I agree with you both, and in regards to their handhelds mobile devices are causing that market to shrink rapidly for them. Android and iOS is a much bigger threat to Nintendo than Sony and Microsoft combined.Quote:
Originally Posted by bultje112
They're being squeezed on both fronts these days (portables and consoles). It's a tough spot. It will be interesting to see how they respond. The 2DS is definitely a move to increase their handheld sales by going back into the low end market (where they really belong). The funky design may or may not fly with consumers. I also think they'd be better off making the 2DS $99 and the original 3DS $149.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obviously
They probably should start developing their next console. I think the Wii U is stillborn:( I even think they could mix it up by making their own tv or even their own tablet. They need to expand their offerings if they want to combat the shrinking console and handheld markets.
Generally speaking a price drop is associated with either poor sales or slowing sales. The 3DS is selling quite well at $169.99.
"3DS" already sounds like it means "DS with 3D graphics" so what the fuck is a "2DS"? Quite confusing naming they've got going on there.
I don't get how the 2DS can possibly be aimed at kids either. The form factor looks ill-suited to children's hands, and they got rid of the clamshell aspect meaning kids are going to bang up those screens. Wasn't the clamshell introduced in the first place, on the GBA SP, with kids in mind? To protect the screen from damage? And then the Game Boy Micro was aimed more at adults (as a fashion accessory), which is why they kept selling the SP.
Not to mention, the introduction of a non-3D model of the 3DS raises the question of why the 3DS exists in the first place. When it launched, Nintendo was implying that the 3D was the whole point of the system. Now it's just a feature that lifts right out? Nintendo is coming across like they can't make up their minds.
A cost-reduced model is a good thing, but they're not making sense, and this design looks hella awkward.
I look at this like a tacit admission that 3D is purely a gimmick and adds absolutely nothing to the gameplay.Quote:
Originally Posted by j_factor
Hmmmm, http://nintendo1ds.com/Quote:
Originally Posted by QuickSciFi
That is neat, its like the GBA player and Super Gameboy of the futureQuote:
Originally Posted by cheaterdragon1
wow, I'd actually buy a 1DS if it were real.