I don't agree. I could care less about Bayonetta, haven't even heard of X.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lan Di
But come on, a crossover with Shin Megami Tensei, you're not even curious as to how they're going to do that? Only thing that sucks is it wont have the mature content that the other games in the series have...
All I see here are valid complaints about a variety of things Nintendo is doing wrong, and Trekkies calling them silly before ranting how everything is acceptable because of a mediocre list of games. Nintendo is competitive as if it were still 2003, losing money and doing nothing interesting for it's customers.
This was trending on the front page of Reddit the other day. You can say it was customer ignorance when replacing hardware, but if this were anyone else it wouldn't be an issue in the first place. Nintendo is so introverted as a company that they don't know the world they're competing in anymore.
All the doom and gloom in the media that Trekkies seems to be auto-butt-hurt about are sourced from consistently poor or mediocre experiences with the company. These experiences are apparently no big deal, and silly to complain about.
You just know it's going to be crap man, there's no way they can mix those two series and something good come out of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by 16-bit
You guys forget to mention zelda 2014. There are gameplay vids on the net.
When in 2014 is the question
At knuckleduster:
I give you an award. (Be happy)
Biggest troll in disguise number 1
Period
when was the last really great zelda game? a link to the past? it has gone downhil since majora's mask for sure, but imo they never did well in 2d to 3d transition, in all of miyamoto's games. also mario.
Legend of Zelda = Aged terriblyQuote:
Originally Posted by bultje112
Zelda 2 = Bad from the start
Link to the Past = Perfect
Ocarina of Time = Good (overrated)
Majora's Mask = Awesome (underrated)
Links Awakening = Perfect
Oracle of X = Good
Minish Cap = Great
Wind Waker = Good (overrated)
Twilight Princess = Great (GC version without the shitty motion controls)
Skyward Sword = Haven't played it, seems meh
Quite a good run I'd say. Has there been anything relevant lately though? There's that horrible 3DS remake/sequel to AlttP, Windwaker with eye burning bloom... huh... Yeah, what happened?
I agreed on pretty much all zelda's you named there, although didn't like twilight princess much
To be fair I didn't play it that much (I didn't have a GC), it seemed to be OoT 2.0 but much prettier.Quote:
Originally Posted by bultje112
The 3DS game that came out last month.Quote:
Originally Posted by bultje112
yes and ocarina of time for me is a good game but definitely not more than that and definitely not the best videogame ever made
The complaints Gamevet had WERE silly. Complaining that you only get one Gamepad with the system so people will fight over it is a really ridiculous argument. If he's going to make that argument for the Wii U he might as well make it for every other console in existence that only came with one controller. Complaining about no games is silly when it's quite apparent that the Library has gotten stronger over the past year making it rather appealing. Saying Wii U has no games is about as silly as saying PS3 has no games was back around 2008.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knuckle Duster
I admit Nintendo has made some mistakes and there are a few valid complaints to stem from them. However the complaints that are being brought up here aren't those issues.
Valid complaints with Nintendo and the Wii U would be these:
-Nintendo hasn't done it's job to differentiate the Wii from the Wii U. People still think it's a new controller for the Wii.
-Third Party support is lacking. Nintendo could bribe developers with money to make more third party titles, though it's also on the players to buy those games when they come out.
- eShop purchases should be linked to your Nintendo Network account.
- Your account shouldn't be permanently linked to your hardware.
Those are the valid complaints I will agree with. Complaining that you don't get two gamepads, or complaining that you have to use the gamepad, complaining that they wont drop the gamepad, complaining that they should drop the Wii U and release a new system more powerful than the PS4, complaining that they should go third party, complaining that you need to buy a Wii U to play it's games, etc. are all rather silly and stupid complaints. They all come off as whining.
2 Weeks ago:Quote:
Originally Posted by bultje112
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...s_NA_cover.jpg
don't know that one. 3d?Quote:
Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118
It's overhead view with a nice 3d effect (but somewhat ugly character designs). And it doesn't have all the bullshit issues of other recent Zeldas. It's not full of tutorials, bloated length, gimmicky controls, or major difficulty imbalances where searching for upgrades doesn't matter. It's like ALTTP with a more open-ended structure. There's more freedom in the order you do stuff than other games in the series. That makes exploration more enjoyable.
It's 3D from a top down perspective:Quote:
Originally Posted by bultje112
The game is very open ended and you can take on the dungeons in any order you like.
So theres a way to play Twilight Princess, without using motion controls and looking like a clown?
there's also a regular wii controller I would advice anyone to get if they want to play some serious wii games like the last storyQuote:
Originally Posted by azonicrider
zelda 2014 gameplay revealed at E3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_fyOkrteqM
The motion controls aren't that bad in Twilight Princess. It's pretty much just point and shoot for ranged weapons, and barely move your wrist to swing the sword. So I wouldn't really classify that as looking like a clown.Quote:
Originally Posted by azonicrider
I said: "I haven't seen it on retail shelves." Online retailers like Newegg and Amazon are entirely different. Go to Best Buy or Wal-mart's website and it'll show that it's sold out. Those consoles are selling as fast as they become available.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Video-Ga...=ps4%20console
http://www.walmart.com/browse/video-...atNavId=110267
And the Amazon stock just blew out. Sony and MS will sell every unit (PS4 and XBone) they can get on shelves this holiday season.
It was as easy to find, as it would be to find a Vita a couple weeks after its launch. I never saw a shortage of the console at the nearby Target store in my neighborhood.Quote:
People seem to forget that there were reports of Wii U's selling out in stores when it launched last year:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/g...sales/1727191/
Now we do know that it didn't last long and in some areas it wasn't entirely true, but there were reports of it none the less.
The main focus of the Wii U console is the controller! It is the very item that they are using to market the console. Now Nintendo is trying to show the whole family having fun, while sitting around the controller and passing along to family members. It's a flawed product design, that doesn't work for group play. And the PS4 and XBone are all about being an everything media device; and group play for those consoles is usually on the internet.Quote:
I admit it's not doing well. I admit that Nintendo needs to do something to dig themselves out of the hole they've dug, but some of your complaints are a bit silly.
The first complaint, "only one gamepad packaged with the console (kids will fight over who gets to hold that thing)" is just absurd. The Xbox One and PS4 only come with one controller too. I guess kids will fight over who gets to use those too. And funny that you mention this, I took my Wii U over to my relatives house for Thanksgiving and all my younger second cousins where there who are between the ages of 4 and 11. Between the 10 of them they were all able to figure out how to share the gamepad on their own by taking turns in games like NintendoLand without any guidance from myself or any of the other adults.
A scenario where you supervised/interacted with some kids while they took turns playing a Wii U, isn't your everyday situation. I let my nephew (he was around 8 at the time) play my Sega Nomad, while I was at my brothers house visiting. It wasn't too long before his sisters were trying to take it away from him.
Most young kids want what the their siblings have. If one kid has the controller with the screen, the other one is going to start whining about his brother or sister hogging the better controller.
You're silly to keep listing those same old games over and over. I don't give two shits about any of the Assassin's Creed games. I haven't played them on PC, 360 or PS3 and that isn't going to change anytime soon.Quote:
The second complaint, "games that have yet to ignite interest in the console" is also a bit silly. There are plenty of good games on the system at this point. You're just not paying attention. At this point the thing has plenty of great exclusive titles available like these:
So I guess it boils down to, what specifically are you waiting for to ignite your interest that's not there? What specific game do you want on the thing? This isn't me being a Nintendo fanboy/apologist or blindly defending Nintendo. I'm asking a legitimate question here. The Wii U has built up a decent library and there are at least 3-5 titles coming out for it next year that I personally find interesting. So what exactly is it missing that makes you think there's nothing interesting on it?
I was not that impressed with the original Bayonetta, so there's no reason I'm going to purchase a Wii U for Bayonetta 2. I'm pretty sure you'll see very little bump in Wii U sales, after that game comes out.
I am so sick of Mario, that I hope to never play another of his games. Okay, I take that back; I may eventually get a Wii to play Mario Galaxy, but the Mario games I'm seeing on the Wii U look absolutely boring.
They haven't, because they're too busy feeding the 3DS with titles and churning out stupid Mario games.Quote:
Personally I think the big issue with this idea isn't that there's nothing of interest on the console, as there is right now. The problem is that Nintendo hasn't done a good job at making clear just what all is available beyond Mario and Zelda.
NVidia stopped manufacturing the GPU for the original Xbox in August of 2005. It was just shy of 4 years in production before they quit making the console. The only reason the GC looks like it sold close to the Xbox, is because MS cut and ran from the money pit that console created and rushed to get their next console out the following year.Quote:
I'm gonna call BS on losing sales to Microsoft. The Gamecube and the Original Xbox sold around the same amount of consoles that generation. So Nintendo didn't lose sales to Microsoft, both Microsoft and Nintendo lost sales to Sony.
I've told the story before, about seeing a Platinum GC collecting dust at a Walmart for nearly a year. They finally sold the unit for $50 to get it out of there.
And none of that has to do with how they handled online gaming with the Wii and Gamecube. They've pretty much established a reputation that they can't just get rid of overnight. People looking for a console to play online games, will go to the PS4 and Xbox One, long before they even think about getting a Wii U to do so.Quote:
You are aware of the fact that Nintendo has pretty much done away with friend codes at this point right? With the 3DS the friend code isn't per game, it's per system. So one friend code for everything. And with the Wii U they took this one step further to where you now just have one Nintendo Network ID that you create. And they have recently announced that they will be bringing this to the 3DS so you can merge your 3DS friend code and eShop to your Nintendo Network ID.
Whining about Friends codes is like whining about how the PS2's online multiplayer worked.
That is how out of touch Nintendo is about the market they are in. It's like they think the market revolves around them and that they don't need to change what they are doing to match what the competition is doing.
The idea that Bayonetta 2 is supposed to be some big system seller is laughable. Seriously confused as to why Sega made it Wii U exclusive as it probably won't push systems at all.
And I agree, Bayonetta 2 wont save the WiiU by any stretch of the imagination. If Mario 3D World can't save the WiiU, no game can.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gogogadget
Atlus is developing it themselves aren't they? It has to be at least decent doesn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamahl
Meanwhile it was sold out for the first few weeks at my local Best Buy and Gamestop.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
The PS4's main appeal are the games. I guess kid's are going to be fighting over who get's to play since it too only comes with one controller. This argument of yours is completely ridiculous. Not to mention the multiplayer games the Wii U has that make use of the game pad actually balance things out pretty well. For example Nintendo Land will actually pause between mini game matches and tell you to hand the gamepad to another player. The other multiplayer games I've tried typically will use the gamepad as another screen, so both players have their own screen instead of doing a split screen method.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
Actually they were unsupervised for quite some time. My Wii U gamepad is still in excellent shape with no damage, and no fights broke out over it (Myself and many others would have heard such a fight if it did happen).Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
Then what game do you want on the thing? You've yet to answer this.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
Or you could get a Wii U and have access to the entire Wii library and whatever new Wii U games that come out that catch your interest.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
Comparing yearly sales data they sold about on par with each other. Some years Gamecube sold more, others Xbox sold more. Sure in that last year the Xbox sold about 2 million more than the Gamecube, but that's pretty late in the game at that point. Not to mention the fact that Sony was destorying both of them with the PS2.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
And I saw a few Xbox's laying around collecting dust on store shelves when the 360 came out. Your point?Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
And what does that have to do with what they are doing now. As I said, complaining about friend codes is silly at this point. They're no longer relevant. It's like complaining about something like the PS2 only having 2 controller ports when everyone else had 4 and using that as an argument against the PS3/PS4. It's not relevant.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
This wasn't an overnight change. The Wii U never even had friend codes and it's online features are actually pretty nice. There may be a stigma with some gamers who don't keep up with information, but that's their fault for not getting the facts straight. And before you say "Nintendo didn't make this well known" they did. They made it rather clear before the Wii U launched and sites like IGN were reporting on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
It's a good exclusive. Will it be a major system seller? Probably not, but it will probably attract some sales along with games like Smash Bros coming out the same year. I find it really funny how Bayonetta was an extremely well received game with plenty of people praising it and championing it as an excellent game, but now that it's sequel is a Wii U exclusive everyone changed their tune to "Well it wasn't a very good game to begin with."Quote:
Originally Posted by Gogogadget
The reason it's a Wii U exclusive is because Nintendo is the one publishing it. Sega is just on it as an adviser.
Gamevet, for the 50th time, customers don't want to play games online!! http://www.gamespot.com/articles/iwa.../1100-6102100/
Extremely well received, it was yes, but gaming critics just hand out 9-10/10s all the time, Bayonetta is decent at best tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118
Bayonetta is a phenomenal game. Bayonetta is light years ahead of new Ninja Gaiden games or Devil May Cry game play and graphics wise. The only game that comes close is Platinum Games' Metal Gear Rising. The Xbox 360 version is the premier version. It was the lead platform. Sega ported it over to the PS3, not Platinum Games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gogogadget
I wish it was coming out for the PS4, but oh well, gotta get a WiiU.:bang:
Nobody had any problems finding a Wii U last holiday season. You can make up all the fairy tale stories you like. It's the truth and you know it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118
They're more than likely going to get games that they can play together. My co-worker likes games that he can play with his son on this PS3. He buys the Call of Duty games (not to play online) so that he and his son can play the co-op missions and head to head stuff. There is no waiting for your turn.Quote:
The PS4's main appeal are the games. I guess kid's are going to be fighting over who get's to play since it too only comes with one controller. This argument of yours is completely ridiculous. Not to mention the multiplayer games the Wii U has that make use of the game pad actually balance things out pretty well. For example Nintendo Land will actually pause between mini game matches and tell you to hand the gamepad to another player. The other multiplayer games I've tried typically will use the gamepad as another screen, so both players have their own screen instead of doing a split screen method.
How about the Pilotwings game I never got on my Gamecube? Oh great, the secret platform Nintendo was going to release it on ended up being the 3DS. Thankyou Nintendo!Quote:
Then what game do you want on the thing? You've yet to answer this.
I'm not paying $300 just to play Wii games, when I can get a Wii for $40. The Wii U does not represent $300 worth of gameplay value and neither did the Wii during its prime.Quote:
Or you could get a Wii U and have access to the entire Wii library and whatever new Wii U games that come out that catch your interest.
That is such bullshit. The console was in high demand and even larger demand when Halo 2 came out (MS stopped producing the Xbox @ 6 months later) in 2004. MS could have sold a lot more Xbox consoles, but they chose to cut bait and drop the 360 onto the market the next year. What magical store did you see new Xbox consoles collecting dust in, during 2005?Quote:
And I saw a few Xbox's laying around collecting dust on store shelves when the 360 came out. Your point?
Don't be like A Black Falcon.Quote:
And what does that have to do with what they are doing now. As I said, complaining about friend codes is silly at this point. They're no longer relevant. It's like complaining about something like the PS2 only having 2 controller ports when everyone else had 4 and using that as an argument against the PS3/PS4. It's not relevant.
Nintendo dicked around with Online play for nearly a decade and you're telling me now they've figured it out? It's too little too late. They've burned too many bridges with the people that wanted all of that stuff 10 years ago.
I shouldn't have had to go to MS to get my online gaming fix, once the DC hit the dust. The 800 pound gorilla comes about and Nintendo does nothing about it and scoffs at online gaming in general throughout the Gamecube's existence. And then they finally decide to enter into Online gaming and totally screw it up with the friend code. Who cares that the Wii U doesn't have that nonsense.
How do you expect anyone to believe that Nintendo has an online structure close to MS and Sony, when all they've done is mill around for the past decade?
See above!Quote:
This wasn't an overnight change. The Wii U never even had friend codes and it's online features are actually pretty nice. There may be a stigma with some gamers who don't keep up with information, but that's their fault for not getting the facts straight. And before you say "Nintendo didn't make this well known" they did. They made it rather clear before the Wii U launched and sites like IGN were reporting on it.
I really don't get the praise that game gets? I'm embarrassed for the people that rated it high in media reviews.Quote:
It's a good exclusive. Will it be a major system seller? Probably not, but it will probably attract some sales along with games like Smash Bros coming out the same year. I find it really funny how Bayonetta was an extremely well received game with plenty of people praising it and championing it as an excellent game, but now that it's sequel is a Wii U exclusive everyone changed their tune to "Well it wasn't a very good game to begin with."
The reason it's a Wii U exclusive is because Nintendo is the one publishing it. Sega is just on it as an adviser.
:ok:Quote:
Originally Posted by azonicrider
I'm pretty much done with nintendo. They're too expensive for casual crowd who seem to be their demographic. I like the looks of the new Mario's, but those aren't enough incentive to invest in a new piece of hardware. I guess that's it for me other than new 3DS stuff. Zelda ALBW was a nice goodbye for that series. I doubt they'll ever do anther one in that style again. Everything else will be NPC bloated, hand holding, "Hey!" shit. I tried playing Ocarina of Time a while back and remember why I hated that game so much. You couldn't take five steps in it's big empty world without some annoying NPC stopping you and telling you where to go. I wanted to shoot that fucking owl. If I had one last Zelda wish it would be for a remake or ALBW style sequel for Link's Awakening.
Maybe in your town. In mine for the first 2 weeks or so it was out there were a few stores selling out. Maybe it had to do with the fact that it was a college town and there was a higher number of Nintendo fans, who knows. I'm just saying there were reports of it happening. Now after about 2 weeks you're right, there was no problem finding one.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
You don't have to wait for your turn on the Wii U either. Have you actually even played one? You can get Call of Duty for the Wii U and play 2 player co-op. The person who has the gamepad doesn't have any special functions, they just get their own screen on the gamepad. The other player(s) who have Pro controlers or Wii Remotes + Nunchucks have the TV to themselves. No need to wait your turn, share, or any of that. This is how it works in a lot of games.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
Where the turn taking comes into play with the gamepad is in a game like NintendoLand or Wii Party U. Basically in these games you have minigames that are 4 vs 1. So for example in Mario Chase in Nintendo Land the person with the gamepad hides and uses the game pad screen to see and control their character. The other players are on the TV and have to find where that player is. It's a very simple concept but a blast to play with people. At the end of each round, the game tells the players to hand off the game pad if you are playing a set of matches. There's no waiting to pay here either. It's just handing off roles. Any arguing that would come out of this would be no different than the typical arguing you get over something like who gets to be player 1 on any other console.
Then go get a 3DS? If Pilot Wings is seriously the only game you care about from Nintendo, then I think it's safe to say you are in a very small minority. People weren't really going nuts over that game when it was a launch title for the 3DS.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
You would also have access to the new Wii U stuff though. Who knows, you might actually like some of those games.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
I saw them sitting around in Best Buy. If I remember correctly I got one of them that year for my brother for Christmas. They had cut them down to around $99 to get rid of them to make room for 360 stock. They weren't even on a shelf any more, they were just sitting in a pile by the music section with the games relegated to small section of the new 360 aisle.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
So essentially you're still extremely butthurt over how Nintendo handled online gaming 10 years ago and you just can't let it go. So you've instead decided to act like a stubborn little kid about it. There's no point in dwelling on the past when it comes to this kind of stuff. It's even more stupid to continue to complain about an old problem that no longer even exists.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
Well, when you're talking about the Wii U, it seems a bit silly to complain about friend codes when the Wii U doesn't even use them. It's completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand. It would be like me saying "I don't want to get a PS4 because I don't want to deal with Memory Cards and Full Screen Dithering!"Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
Well you could show them the facts. That would probably do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
It's a fun action game?Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
And this is relevant to the Wii U because?Quote:
Originally Posted by azonicrider
I could probably dig up some hilarious things Sony and Microsoft have said in the past too. That doesn't mean it's still true.
When the Bayonetta 2 exclusivity was announced I remember thinking that it was a nice coup for Nintendo, and that they should attempt to make more moves like it (if they are to attract gamers that arent simply fanboys). Many people were upset that it was a WiiU exclusive, and if you make enough of these types of moves, some of those upset gamers might look at the library as one that is worth owning the system for (eventually).Quote:
Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118
However, what is strange about too many Nintendo console owners is that they simply dont buy 3rd party games, no matter how good (or exclusive) they are. People that have played The Wonderful 101 and Rayman Legends (two games that certainly appear tailor made for the Nintendo audience) wont shut up about how good those games are, and suggest them at every given opportunity, yet...NOBODY BOUGHT THEM, which is odd for an install base that didnt have many more options.
It seems like WiiU owners, bought NSMBWU, Nintendo land, (and to lesser degrees) Zombie U, and Sonic Racing Transformed at launch. Lego Undercover (approx 550,000 worldwide) and Monster Hunter Tri (approx 440,000 worldwide) feel like they were the only games released in a 7 month drought (anything else released in that time frame sold in the tens of thousands, or less, worldwide). Pikmin 3 comes out in August and sells to the tune of approx. 540,000 copies. That is 3 games in an 8 month time frame that sold very well when considering the install base, BUT nothing beyond those 3 games (and I will assume, some launch games) sold much of anything in 8 months. Then Rayman Legends releases, followed closely by The Wonderful 101, and no one seems to give a damn - The Wonderful 101, in particular, has sold approx. 90,000 worldwide (not a typo). These arent garbage games, these are solid, well-reviewed games that have a heavy dose of Nintendo flavor, in the middle of a disgusting 8-9 month drought of games....and hardly anyone cares to buy them. 3rd party multi-plats arent doing so hot either: Splinter Cell Blacklist sits at approx. 30,000 worldwide (again, not a typo), Need for Speed Most Wanted sits at approx. 70,000, kid-centric, and well-reviewed, games like Skylanders SWAP and Disney Infinity are at around 100,000 each. It makes me wonder what exactly WiiU owners are waiting for. Bayonetta 2?
The way that Nintendo console owners seem to suport quality 3rd party multi-plats and exclusives, as well as some of the 1st party material, over the past 15 years, you would think they would be better served just starting over with an entirely different fan base in mind. It just doesnt look like Mario, Zelda, Mario Kart, Mario Party, Smash Bros., and Donkey Kong are enough anymore.
That's a very interesting point. Bayonetta will not help sell WiiU systems. Super Mario 3D land was Nintendo's last hope. The WiiU will probably be dead this time next year. And if the WiiU does survive another year, that means that Nintendo either got lucky or the PS4 and Xbone totally blew it. BTW, when is that Zelda HD coming out?Quote:
Originally Posted by Splatterhouse5
Zelda U will disappoint.Quote:
Originally Posted by Semmie
Wind Waker was empty, with few dungeons and you never took any threatening amount of damage. The economy was totally fucked.
Twilight Princess was not memorable at all. A Lord of the Rings filter over OoT or MM.
Skyward Sword was 3 areas you backtracked through, separated by a big empty hub world. The sword interrupted you almost as much as that bitch fairy from OoT, with more game-breaking handholding explainations.
A Link Between Worlds was A Link to the Past copy pasta, with all weapons cheats turned on, the map filled out, and a bunch of tiny dungeons. More about fan service than breaking new ground.
Troll in disguise as what? I'm the guy who was playing Nintendo since it launched Famicom, more than likely when you were still tearing off your shit filled diapers and wearing them on your head. Nintendo fucking blew it with the Wii U, and the topic at hand is that the President of the company is acknowledging it. Go ahead and defend it as a decent product because it's cheaper, competition with more games and support is inferior because ________. Nobody cares.
You're on your period? What else is new?
http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/19/grumpy.jpg
:lol:
For what Wii U does and is capable of doing, it needs to be $200 right now. $250 with a new game like SM3DW.
Finally someone that shares my view on these games (specially the new 3DS game, people are going gaga over this garbage?). Though to be fair, a Lord of the Rings filter over OoT wasn't such a bad thing. Not that OoT is that great, but it was good, and so is TP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knuckle Duster
Quote:
Originally Posted by Knuckle Duster
Ok so you do not like zelda games and you dont like nintendo
Yet at the same time you like them. But no games of nintendo at all
Schyzofr..
Ok you go play parappa the rapper and bust a groove
While i enjoy good games
Im over 30 years. I might be younger then you perhaps. So at least i enjoyed my first console
The commodore 64c
I never had famic... What so ever. When sega was still there i had an oath never to touch that nin console
Honestly nes looked crap
Snes looked great but it didnt have what megadrive had not. All genres were on both systems
The old saying
Sega has what nintendont
But to talk about the present. I enjoy nintendo. And i love them being alive for their epicness
Ok did you finish parappa and bust a groove? Lol
Go play that just dance. Lol dont sweat
I agree with all. Skyward Sword is about the same as WW, and I think OoT deserves as recognition as MM because of the perfect change of the series to a 3D title, however MM is better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamahl
Zelda 2 is terrible, funny how only hardcore fans defends it to say that the series (or even Nintendo) do not have bad games. Even Castlevania 2, as a poor title, is above it.
weren't you the guy who told us here he beat nintendo kids when they were young? how did you come around to becoming a nintendo fanboy then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Semmie
True, in fact it was a much better transition to 3D than Mario's. I gave it a good rating mostly because of how overrated it is, I was really underwhelmed when I first played it (which was long after it's release). The opposite for MM which really surprised me.Quote:
Originally Posted by maxi
I'd bet this can be chalked up to their image and marketing issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Splatterhouse5
Nintendo has turned into the company that makes a system to put gimmicky games and Nintendo exclusives on. People don't buy it for other games because the assumption is that there ARE no other games. Yes, for some that isn't the case, but by and large, look at the top sales lists on the wii and wii u... and of course the GC and N64 before it to varying degrees.
Nintendo has allowed this image to take hold, and has, in some cases actually fostered it on their own. They are complacent and more than happy to just let shit do whatever. It's like they don't want to take an active role in shaping their system anymore other than releasing the hardware and their own games.
They need to grab this issue by the neck, spend some money on people to make different kinds of games and quality ones, not shit cash grab ports. They need to spend the money to MARKET THE FUCK out of the system everywhere and show that yes, they DO have more than waggle/touch gimmick games and Nintendo franchises.
Will that "fix" the wii u? Probably not, but it should help them get more sales. And if they have a decent price drop at some point (likely with a hardware revision to make it all cheaper for them to produce) they might pick up some more sales.
And then I would hope to goddamn hell they give consumers a REAL system that they actually want next time. Something that isn't just attractive to Nintendo to shovel out it's franchises on, but actually appealing to 3rd parties to put 1:1 multiplat releases on as well as exclusives.
It isn't relevant to the Wii U because gamevet isn't talking about the Wii U. Hes saying Nintendo is stuck in the past, and has had half-assed online services for the last 10 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118
The game was stated to be a direct sequel from it's announcement. Of course it's going to have similarities with a Link to the Past. That doesn't mean it's a copy pasta. As for having all the weapons at your disposal from the start, it's kind of funny to see you dissing one of the new things to does when you're also accusing it of not doing new things. This game was one of the first completley non-linear Zelda games in a years. It pretty much breaks the traditional Zelda formula in this sense because now instead of having the game hold your hand in a fixed linear path to the next Temple/Power Up, you can now pick what power up you want to take with you and go where ever you want to go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knuckle Duster
So in the non-linearity aspect, it's pretty different from the more recent Zelda games (even Link to the Past for that matter). Sure the world map is the same and filled out, but the dungeons are pretty different.
He specifically said this:Quote:
Originally Posted by azonicrider
This is a present tense complaint, not a past tense one. It's complaining about things how they are now. The problem with it is it's complaining about things that are no longer true as if they still are true.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
The first part of the complaint, that Nintendo has done nothing to establish it's console as an online console isn't true. There's a lot of games on the system that have free online multiplayer, including some of their own games like Wii Sports Club. They have a thriving online community with the MiiVerse where players can interact with each other for any game on their system. They have a full blown eShop that can pretty much stand toe to toe with what Microsoft and Sony have short of purchases not being tied to an account. So to say they have done nothing isn't just inaccurate, it's just plain wrong.
The second part of the complaint about friend codes is just outdated and irrelevant. The Wii U doesn't even have those, you have a Nintendo Network ID just like you have an Xbox Live ID. Through MiiVerse you can create a friend list just like you can on Xbox Live. So you can see how complaining about friend codes as if they still exist when they don't is just plain silly.