It should still sell better than a couple of 1st person shooters on the recently released PS4. Japan has never been a place that FPS games sell well.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118
What's the excuse for Wonderful 101?
It should still sell better than a couple of 1st person shooters on the recently released PS4. Japan has never been a place that FPS games sell well.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118
What's the excuse for Wonderful 101?
Wonderful 101 is an example god awful advertising. That one is Nintendo's fault through and through. However it looks like it's still getting printed and is available. So it might be one that ends up selling a decent amount over time.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
Wii U is dead. Nintendo is not.
Famitsu gave it very good reviews and people had been talking about the title for quite some time before it's release. It still only sold @40k in Japan and 90k in North America. That game, along with DKC: TF were supposed to be system sellers.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118
What's the next big title that is set to fail on the Wii U?
I'm predicting that in 5 or so years, Wii U games are to be fairly expensive on ebay.
Probably Mariokart 8. But yeah, while Wonderful 101 got lots of praise, there was no advertising push for it whatsoever. That one is Nintendo's fault.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
You've made your point more than clear. Go troll another forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knuckle Duster
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Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118
Who am I trolling? Fanboys who wish to discredit the topic here, which is how Nintendo has failed with the Wii U? If you don't want to hear it, go jerk yourself off in another thread, or forum. Or don't, because I don't care and don't take any of this seriously anyway.
By all means, blame the media and bad news for Nintendo being terrible at creating and marketing a game machine that people actually want.
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The point I was making with the media is that it has been ridiculously harsh on the Wii U. The PS4 and Xbox One have their fair share of problems too but they're not getting nearly as publicized ad the Wii U's woes. The article Barone posted was pure click bait. The title implies that Nintendo is planning to drop the Wii U, when that's not the case at all. It's an opinion piece with no facts whatsoever. That shit doesn't help at all and only perpetuates more problems. It's not that I think the media should say nothing but good things about Nintendo, but there's a difference between posting actual honest fact and posting hyperbole for the sake of click bait.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knuckle Duster
As for who do you troll, you troll pretty much everyone on this forum who enjoys consoles. Not a thread goes by about current gen systems that doesn't have you posting PC gaming memes in them. Not a Nintendo thread goes by that doesn't have you posting the same regurgitated Wii U is a failure post. The point is it gets old. Basically if all you want to do is post only for the sake of being an ass hat then there are forums for that. Go hang around on those.
I've seen plenty of advertising and attempts to go viral with the title. This isn't a decade ago when everyone spent $$$ on television ads. Nintendo is using airports to push Wii U consoles towards families by using kiosks where there are heavy traffic. I saw Tropical Freeze on a huge display at the intersecting concourses at Dallas Live Field. A couple of bad reviews shouldn't have stopped people from buying the game, a lack of interest in the console however...Quote:
Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118
Yeah, for games like Tropical Freeze they are advertising and for the console itself they are advertising. My argument about no advertising was specifically for The Wonderful 101. That game had NO advertising in Japan and barely any in the US. Kamiya was rather outspoken on Twitter about how upset he was that Nintendo wasn't advertising it.
As for Tropical Freeze's sales, we don't have any US sales data yet. I don't know where you got your Japanese sales data from, but Tropical freeze debuted at #2 in the charts at 35k/43k between Media Create and Famitsu's sales. It was 2nd only to a 3DS Draqon Quest game. That's certainly not a paltry 17k. The next week it was in the #12 spot with 14k/17k. Last week it sold another 10-11k. That gives it a grand total of about 60-70k sold in 3 weeks. Sure it's not setting the world on fire over there, but it's not doing terribly either. Call of Duty Ghosts hasn't outsold it either. It's sitting at around 17k total since it's release on the PS4 over there. Battlefield 4 is sitting at around 30k since it's release. So neither of those releases has passed it yet. And considering that DKC:TF is holding around the top 10 or so and those other two games are dropping like rocks each week, DKC:TF will probably have longer legs in the sales charts over there.
Ironic how Donkey Country for snes got so much hype when it first came out because of it's advance computer modeling graphics, which were incredible for the time and now Nintendo is behind the graphics department.
It still had media hype. Famitsu giving the game a 39 out of 40 which is certainly hype for Japan.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118
http://www.polygon.com/2013/8/21/464...-lost-planet-3
I know I've seen a television ad for the Wonderful 101, or at least seen a video ad for it on the web.
http://www.the-magicbox.comQuote:
As for Tropical Freeze's sales, we don't have any US sales data yet. I don't know where you got your Japanese sales data from, but Tropical freeze debuted at #2 in the charts at 35k/43k between Media Create and Famitsu's sales. It was 2nd only to a 3DS Draqon Quest game. That's certainly not a paltry 17k. The next week it was in the #12 spot with 14k/17k. Last week it sold another 10-11k. That gives it a grand total of about 60-70k sold in 3 weeks. Sure it's not setting the world on fire over there, but it's not doing terribly either. Call of Duty Ghosts hasn't outsold it either. It's sitting at around 17k total since it's release on the PS4 over there. Battlefield 4 is sitting at around 30k since it's release. So neither of those releases has passed it yet. And considering that DKC:TF is holding around the top 10 or so and those other two games are dropping like rocks each week, DKC:TF will probably have longer legs in the sales charts over there.
Sorry, I got a number crossed. Tropical Freeze has sold 71k in Japan, but for the week ending March 2nd it was outsold by PS4's Battlefield 4 by about 2.5k units and has been eclipsed by a Yakuza title on the PS4 as well. It's not a good sign, when a Nintendo flagship title is being outsold by a FPS.
Nintendo isn't dead is certain. Wii-u I've never said is dead, but it sure as hell isn't doing very well.
As to the xbone/ps4 have their own issues.. well, they are selling a fair bit better than the wii-u and have developers lining up to make games on them... that's kind of a far cry from the wii u's position.
Yes, the PS4 is doing much better than the xbone, and MS needs to work on that. Yes Sony is not exactly in the best financial position, and that could eventually impact the PS line.
But as far as consoles go themselves, they both are doing pretty well thus far. Sony has already beaten Nintendo's total system sales. So they have eroded the entire nearly year head start and overtaken in. MS was in a decent position to do the same, just not as quickly. I have little doubt they will do it, and if it seems like they are going into a sales slump, I would hope they take appropriate action.... not sit on their asses for a year.
Nintendo could still turn it around... will they? Don't know. I just picked up a wii u, but more for the wii backlog I never bothered with + a handful of current games than anything to do with it's future. I still hope it can get better, but given Nintendo's statements around it, I'm expecting them to basically just put out a few games I want over the next few years, and that's going to be the extent of interest in it.
Microsoft these days feels like an old rusty tank. It has lots of power, but it keeps missing the mark, and takes ages to change direction. Heck, they still haven't fixed windows 8 I really don't know what they hope to achieve with the changes in the last update. When the best compliment given to your product is "you can ignore the parts that suck", you have a problem.
I don't have much hope for the bone.
Windows 8 is a bit of an odd duck. But at the same time, they ARE trying things. Which is more than can be said for Nintendo in many cases.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamahl
However Win 8 is not the Xbone... Win 8 has the unfortunate situation of MS trying to make it fit in too many boxes at once... Desktop, laptop, tablet. They can likely make the back end work fine for all of those, but the front end UI is what is causing so much trouble... it's just 3 different worlds. KB/M vs touch only input are not the same things... and just don't operate in a way that is nice.
Xbone doesn't have that same issue really. You can say it's trying to do too much, but it's doing the same things the PS4 is doing. Plays games, does media/social stuff + some limited internet capabilities.
MS's big initial issue was their message (which Nintendo can relate to). But MS acted fast as hell to try and undo the damage when it became obvious that it wasn't just impotent internet outrage, but was going to hit their sales.
I haven't seen any recent sales numbers from them, but I'm assuming they are either decent enough for them, but not good enough for them to tout in front of Sony's superior sales numbers. Or they are working on some serious re-vamp plans while using these new package deals they have in the meantime to try and bolster interest.
Nintendo took waaaay too long to do anything about the sales problems. And even at this point are doing little about it.
The bone is selling ok, 2/3 of what the PS4 sold supposedly. That's not bad at all. The worrying part is that MS was expecting to sell much more (they made more consoles than they're selling), while Sony underestimated their success (there's shortages of PS4's everywhere). Since MS has weaker hardware with a bigger price tag, and developer relations aren't at their best, the bone is essentially a Sega Saturn. Let's hope that unlike Sega they move fast and don't let the situation evolve. Which is why I made the "rusty tank" comment, they're a bit slow to move, and can't be.
Sony's PS4 is also available in more areas in less quantity while the bone is available in less areas with more quantity. They went for different strategies and MS's is providing a better supply chain in the places it is out in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamahl
Would they like to have sold more? Absolutely... but at this point if they want to sell more they are going to need to do better. I have no doubt they projected more initially, but a lot of those forecasts would have been prior to the whole DRM fiasco and PS4 pricing being finalized.
If their sales are really consistently hitting 2/3 of Sony's numbers, that's nothing to sneeze at.
Journalists are killing the Wii U...
No, absymal sales are killing the Wii U, journalists posting opinion pieces on it's death and low review scores are because of mediocre, boring games, and mediocre boring games like Tropical Freeze are not selling because people don't go to work all day to earn money to spend it on bad games.
I agree wii u's demise is nintendo's fault, but I cant help but feel the media isn't acting very proffesional when it comes to nintendo lately. Not just the media but also on forums and such concensus are created and believed by the shallow minds.
No media can stop good marketing and genuine apeal when a product is worth it so yeah I agree at the end of the day its still nintendo to blame. If they wanted they could go against the stream of negativity and get out well like was the case for the wii and 3ds, but so far nothing has been effective yet.
I guess now we wait for the 2 game combo mario kart 8 and smash to do anything this year so games like bayo 2 and sonic boom can benefit as well. If not then it'll be definitive and i'll just enjoy the ride which i've been doing since march last year. I think as long I get great games, the installbase grows so I can find more and more people to play online with, i'll be satisfied.
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Originally Posted by Knuckle Duster
and you are a straight forward trollolol.
it still amazes me that you actually finished link between worlds in hero mode and hating it.
your one crazy man yo.
if you were with me in real life LOL i would probably get along and be like whenever you troll in my face, id be like yo guys dont get angry at knuckleduster,
he just loves to whine and act like a bitch cause he is gay.
and people would respect you cause 2014 being gay has become a standard in society.
how many pcs do you have at home?
do you sleep with voodoo2 graphic card in your hands?
do you put your cock in your motherboard?( dont do it in the fan if you still enjoy life)
have you killed someone to have that sidewinder stick in your narrow ass?
dammit knuckleduster
joking aside
you really should stop being that pc asshole cause it is getting really old.
i dont hate you man. im interested in some things you write, but enough is enough yo. we know it your a pc dandy. you love pcs and pcs are the best.
Bayonetta 2 is gonna do nothing for Wii U's sales except a few fans of the original game, which is a shame really as the original was a good game, it's a shame Nintendo are the publisher as i'd like to see it on a console with a bigger userbase.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dja
Mario Kart 8 and Smash Bros will push sales but I don't think it's the kind of AAA game the Wii U seriously needs, although it will definitely entertain Nintendo fans and other people as they are almost always fun affairs, does anyone here buy Ninty consoles just for the Kart and Smash series?
...well i mostly had a Ds for mario kart
Since when was the gaming media professional though?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dja
Right now there's a whole generation of kids who don't give a shit about Nintendo and they have expectations for the features and games it should have. Everybody old enough to care and remember Nintendo is getting neglected by being sold rehashed garbage at a high cost, with marketing seemingly aimed at that magical oldschool white-bread 90s television TGIF family unit nobody is a part of. Remember when videogames were cool? Were they ever cool because your parents played them with you upfront in their marketing? No, they weren't.
Failure to hit all targets, Nintendo depending on the fisher-price early exposure market and the graces of sympathetic fanboys for another hardware cycle. It seems like sympathetic Nintendo fanboys are eating crow and demanding the media not point at laugh like usual. Nintendo consumers are the ones trying to impress on "shallow minds" here, and they're not so easily herded into buying a last-gen console at a high price for game droughts when Nintendo itself can't even make it look exciting.
Calls me a troll. Then Trolls. :ok:Quote:
Originally Posted by Semmie
I know a few gay people. I know a lot of straight people. I know that there is no correlation between being one way or another, and being some kind of drama queen or troll as you're implying.Quote:
if you were with me in real life LOL i would probably get along and be like whenever you troll in my face, id be like yo guys dont get angry at knuckleduster,
he just loves to whine and act like a bitch cause he is gay.
and people would respect you cause 2014 being gay has become a standard in society.
It's nice that you have a prejudice against those gay people though, and feel high-minded enough to share your ridiculous thoughts of implied acceptance, as if it lends credibility to some imaginary scene where you're the level-headed good guy while around people you consider wrong for one reason or another.
I have 3 gaming PCs.Quote:
how many pcs do you have at home?
do you sleep with voodoo2 graphic card in your hands?
do you put your cock in your motherboard?( dont do it in the fan if you still enjoy life)
have you killed someone to have that sidewinder stick in your narrow ass?
dammit knuckleduster
Why would I sleep with an obsolete video card from 15 years ago?
There are no fans on my motherboards. You're a god damned savage. I use radiators to cool things like any reasonable modern PC gamer.
Sidewinder stick? Yeah, it seems like your knowledge of the PC gaming universe comes from 1998 so I'm not surprised.
Yes.Quote:
joking aside
I'm not being a PC asshole. I haven't joked about the PC scene here in weeks, despite it's superiority at being able to emulate up to PS2/Wii & play backwards compatible games for 30 years. ;)Quote:
you really should stop being that pc asshole cause it is getting really old.
You brought it up, and you complain about it. That right there is the real joke.Quote:
i dont hate you man. im interested in some things you write, but enough is enough yo. we know it your a pc dandy. you love pcs and pcs are the best.
KD, why do you even bother replying to him? He's a fucking idiot.
I was responding to Dja's post, and the wonderful world of Semmie happened to appear before I finished my reply, and it happened to be dedicated to trolling me, again.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Jackal
http://www.threadbombing.com/data/me...nwe3o1_500.jpg
Ahahahaha, this post made my day :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Knuckle Duster
Because Kraft Dinner needs to warm-up his e-fighting skills, you can't let them get dry and rusty.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Jackal
I'm not saying it's just Journalists, I'm saying it's part of the problem. Journalism has had a significant hand in turning a slow start into self-fulfilling prophecy with the Wii U. It's spreading beyond the gaming community at this point as you have your average consumers going "I heard the Wii U is bad, so I won't get it. I haven't looked into any games or tried any of them but people are saying it's bad so it must be true." Gaming journalism has basically turned the Wii U situation from bad to abysmal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gogogadget
And Tropical Freeze has an 87 user score on Metacritic, so I doubt the game is mediocre and boring. Have you actually played it to make that opinion?
And while we're at it, Titanfall is having it's negative reviews censored on retailer sites like Amazon, and the PS4 is bombing in Japan to the point where it's tracking behind the Wii U. But you don't see this getting paraded all over gaming news sites. Yet constant negative press about Nintendo regardless of how true it is gets posted like wildfire.
There's a lot of issues hurting the Wii U, it's not just one thing. But the Negative press is probably one of the most damaging ones.
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Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118
Umm NO! The press is not responsible for a damn thing when it comes to Nintendo's incompetence and the utter failure of the WiiU. Nintendo is 100% to blame for the current state of the WiiU. The press is there to inform consumers of a company's shortcomings and lack of profitable sales be it Toyota, IBM, Google, Apple, or Nintendo. Both the Ouya and WiiU are in the same boat, no one wants one because the so called "innovation" is not far reaching enough to sway consumers to buy one. Onlive anyone? Its all about marketing and as far as Nintendo is concerned all consumers are middle class Caucasian Brady Bunch fodder horny for anything with a Mario theme. That's whats killing them. No one wants Microsoft's Kinect either. The Kinect is an information farming device in the guise of an entertainment device. I cant think of anyone off hand that I know in cyberspace or real life that swears by the Kinect as a must have hot item. No media bias, just the cold truth.
The Wii/Kinetct crowd have migrated to tablets and smart phones for their high tech fix. Kids I know either want an Ipad, smart phone,or PS4/Xbone. Nobody fucking wants a WiiU but butthurt loyal aging fans. Mario was a hero of the 1980s/1990, but only a nostalgic wet dream now. The Wii was a high tech fluke. Nintendo got lucky with soccer moms and aging baby boomers when it came to the Wii. A fucking waggle and a fucking scale is what propelled the Wii into the stratosphere. That quickly wore off because it was only a fad and tablets and smart phones became the new mainstream. Nintendo tried to replicate it with the WiiU but fucked themselves in the process. Nintendo lost their coolness factor after the SNES/N64. The Gamecube was the beginning of the end for Nintendo domination.
I dare anyone to properly deconstruct this argument effectively. I'm 100% right on this one guys. Why else would Nintendo make the QOL (Quality of Life) platform it's new direction of future profitability? Because that's the only card that Nintendo has left. Nintendo has absolutely no clue of what the fuck to do next but resort to desperation like the QOL platform.
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AGain im with trekkie. Its true that the ps4 is horribly bombing in japan yet no single article is givi g t any attentio . While mario 3d world 1st week sales instantly got reported everwhere even though it sold solid numbers(half a million) at the end of december in japan.
Im honestly disgusted by the media and i dont fucking care if nintendo isnt ahead of the conpetitors in a lot of things, but when it comes to injustice it only makes me want to root for the underdog even more. Its the injustice that makes me wanna see nintendo and the wii u succeed even more than just for personal reasons
@lan di. You'll know the answer if you realise that sony has gone in the red since HD gaming, forecasting another billion dollar of losses even though they're selling ps4's like hotcakes. And this is beside the 5000 job cuts and the 50 at sony santa monica. Sony is not going to survive this guaranteed. Nintendo with their safety net is searching for profitable sectors so they can Keep financing the thing they love.
After all, they're still making cards to this day even though their popularity died long ago. Starting the videogame focus is what made them able to stay true to their roots and keep supporting the cards. Imagine they're gonna try and do the same with the QOL. Its a risky move definitly
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Originally Posted by Dja
The media harping on a company that put out a 2005 game console experience in late 2012, that nobody wants to buy, is not an injustice.
Why does Nintendo deserve to thrive off of rehashing games on weak hardware at a higher cost with no marketing, and not get any negativity? Because they don't change and pump out traditional crap? I think that's an admirable goal they don't know how to innovate with anymore, and certainly not a sane or reasonable thing to do given how the industry has constantly changed and progressed for decades.
Iwata needs to get fired, and instead he stacked the board in his favor, and they're going forward with weird niche fitness nonsense that can make or break them. THAT'S the injustice here. Giving that clown another shot.
The PS4 is lacking in sales due to the lack of JRPGs, fighting games, and monster hunting games. Games like those are system sellers in Japan, and the PS4 does not offer any of that yet. But in the US and EU, the PS4 is absolutely dominating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dja
BTW here are plenty of press stories covering the PS4 Japan situation..
http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/...or-new-system/
http://www.edge-online.com/news/ps4-...-players-care/
http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/...sold-two-days/
Reped.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knuckle Duster
Of course, a mate of mine has a Wii U and picked up the game, traded it in because well.. it's boring.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrekkiesUnite118
Also don't go off Amazon reviews for anything ever, Amazon reviews are the bottom end of if anything is worthwhile and is always full of retards going 1/5 because the disk didnt work or they expected a totally different game to the one they seen advertised or something stupid, Titanfall has 86/100 on Metacritic btw.
And the PS4 is bombing in Japan.. fair enough, the Xbox 360 didn't break Japan either, barely dented it's popularity or lasting appeal.
There are places talking about PS4's poor sales in japan, but it's not a "thing" because it's not a "look, the PS4 was doing horrible and hoping Japan would save it, and it's still doing horrible, lolsony doooom!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Dja
The PS4 is selling in great numbers all over, and Japan has sparse sales... but ALL home console sales there have been trending downwards. So frankly... people were mildly shocked it didn't do better, but shrugged their shoulders and moved on.
Look at the media reaction to the "resolutiongate" bs going on. You want to talk about media harping on Nintendo, MS gets it to. You'd swear that the Xbone is displaying 16bit blocky graphics while the PS4 is displaying 4k 60fps gaming goodness the way some places are going on about it. But the truth is it's a nearly imperceptible difference, even on the best of setups.
Then we get to Nintendo... which is selling horribly everywhere, and hasn't done a thing with its year head start but ignore all criticisms and keep on staying the course. People keep saying wait for game ____, and those games come and go with no change. The only thing the media HAS to report on the wii u is bad news most of the time. That's not being unfair, that's just stating the issue.
It will be a self fulfilling prophecy for Nintendo no matter what if they don't get their act together, simply because they are going to build up such a negative bias and sales inertia that it's going to be impossible to move... This QOL garbage gives me 0 hope on that however. I think they are going to bank on that changing their fortunes, and will still have the wii-u on life support. If the QOL thing tanks miserably, they will keep on doing what they are now... if it takes off, the wii u is likely going to have a pillow shoved over its face as it's snuffed out and never spoken of again.
This generation is all about keeping their name somewhat relevant and in good standing to me. How they treat this mistake and learn from it, and if/how they present their next system.
If Nintendo comes out next gen with some low powered POS relying 100% on some idiotic gimmick to sell it, I'm done with them on home systems until they decide they should probably actually release something that isn't treating the consumers like they are all toddlers.
I've said it numerous times in this thread. I want the real Nintendo back. Where is the SNES? The N64, the Gamecube? Where is the company that gave us systems that, even if not perfect, could stand up to the other systems it ran with?
at Knuclepoop
man i was just mocking you, you are so dumb for real
the thing is you dont seem to understand is that when you post 1000plus posts that pc is the holy grail of your ass that people actually know you for that.
then all of a sudden other post you dont talk about it. but ooooooh well the other 1000S you do.
then when anyone starts a topic you basically derail it by talking about your pc.
ok by the way you said you have 3 pc
LOL do you play at all of them at the same time nonono lemme guess
you play counterstrike and make bots and try to kill them and then you switch fastly to another pc so that you can kill yourself. wuhahaha your funny
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serious talking
dude why do you bash the wiiu? you dont even have it. but i guess your illogical regardless cause you play games and finish them while you dont like them. Lik eyou are being paid to do a review for IGN. stop making lies.
i can put a view but this one under pretty much has put you on checkmate by trekkiesunited, yet you still troll him. trekkies however admits his mistakes when he does make one. i read all of it over here. and your the stubborn one
it has come so far that you became a pathological liar
i rather call you pethatic liar. just to name the critter.
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ok so you do not like wiiu . well grats.
we know your opinion now there have been pages about it now and in the past. it is clear that you are just a troll. you do the same at steam forum. you make multiple accounts and pretty much act like a samaritan on one and the other your a fag which is the real you. cause you troll more then yu debate argue or discus
you disgust me man.
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lies about cost of a pc compared to ps4. damn
meanwhile in between at jackal for calling me an idiot. your the jackal here not me
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at knucklybooby
all with all i do think you have interesting points. but i hope you get what im saying sucker. stop whining like ......... the thing that you are
and at least pretend to be a hetero. kitsune pretends it to and he didnt succeed at it but he didnt fail either
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If there isn't already, there should be a forum rule against spamming memes, gifs and misc off topic media in threads.
I didn't read the data eating post above, but it gave me great insight into either their limited ability to articulate thoughts, their mental capacity or both.
I'm sure that the irony of posting such a massive "idiot license" meme is completely lost on him.
You need to stop using those words in an attempt to insult him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Semmie
If Rusty were still around( or if we had any active mods here ), you probably would've been banned by now.
Posts that crap, and wonders why I called him an idiot.
Lol.
Wow, now I'm glad that I didn't read that post and it turns out he's much worse that I thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bottino
The big problem is that so many seem to think that the wii u is either "doing fine". Or that it's issues are not entirely self inflicted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Semmie
Nintendo caused the mess they are in... no one else. This isn't some clandestine operation to destroy Nintendo. This is Nintendo fucking up, the end.
They have been fucking up for a long while now, and just skating by on it. They have no clue who their real market is, they don't really seem to know why the wii was a success, and why the wii u was not.
And the frustration is from people who sit back and argue for them like they are defending their little sister from a big mean bully.
Nintendo is a company. It doesn't have feelings, it isn't your friend, it doesn't want to "do right by you" or be your bestest pal. In fact, aside from the loss of a sale, it wouldn't give a damn if you fell off the planet and died.
So why defend it when they fuck up? And ESPECIALLY why stand up for them when they not only fuck up, but don't admit to fucking up right away, and continue to keep fucking up in the exact same ways?
I'd personally rather slap the shit out of them and tell them to get a grip and fix their shit than to be all, "Oh, I'm sorry Nintendo... I still love you, I'll be there for you even when you are doing our worst".
So while it may be useless talking to people who see Nintendo as "doing no evil" and the wii-u as "doing fine", I can certainly understand the frustration. Being surrounded by yes men will have anyone feeling all warm and fuzzy inside all the way to the poor house and/or grave.
I'm getting the system myself... will be here tomorrow I hope, but Monday most likely. But I see little future for it. As far as I'm concerned it's an up-scaling wii + emulator box that will have a handful of better looking games on it. That's the future I see for the wii-u.