You can do that (I did that with mine), but you have to show you're a sexual being from the get go, otherwise she'll have no sexual attraction for you. This doesn't mean you have to bone her right away though.
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So I guess not fucking her the first week we knew each other messed up my last relationship, so be it. I like to know people first. She left date at night, I wanted it got nothing, then she asks after work days later to do it, I wasn't feeling it then so she didn't get it. It's best to wait. But they can't now a days. Some people don't click sexually.
This might sound strange coming from a Christian man, but I agree somewhat with Kamahl's comment. Women obviously have needs like men do. Not in any way advocating jumping into bed before marriage, but there does have to be a 'spark' or similar to keep the attraction going. It's sort of a tough balancing act, but in the least involves a small amount of flirting if nothing else to keep a relationship going.
To answer Vector: Unfortunately, Hollywood and the music industry do nothing but push sex, sex, and more sex these days. Like it or not, many of the women out there have been impacted by it. Somehow, pop culture sees you as not 'normal' if you are not some abnormally hormone-driven freak. If you desire friendship first, go in with that intent, and you will eventually find the woman for you. My thought is that loose women will not work out the best in the long run anyway. Hindsight tells me I should have seen that coming with my first wife. Lascivious women do the kind of things that were done to BoostedGr33k. More reserved women, not so much.
I did that! but that got me punished because to her sex was evil! and when I thought about her like that she'd go all awkward on me.
then when I stopped that was also suddenly a problem! so I tried to deal with it and see if we could perhaps figure out a way to deal
with it in a more mature way, but.. that was also not good.
As you can see a very bad first experience.. for a long time I even thought that all women hated sex.
Eventually I figured it all out, it was not a standard "relationship that just has some problems" there were extremely deep problems on both sides.
but.. At least eventually I had the guts to look in the mirror and open up, be honest to her and myself about what my problems are.
she never really did, she was the kind who'd bury her problems and face the other way, I'm more of a fixer myself.
How do you fix that which doesn't want to be fixed? yet keeps coming back.
I don't really wanna go into details here out of respect towards her, (I did love the hell out of her at one point in my life)
but I won't hide the fact that being with her messed me up.
And the more these things happened the more I retreated into my purely logical way of thinking, hoping to somehow find a solution.
but life is not solution based, the majority of people can't even comprehend that we do the things we do because of the way our
brain has been formed during our years of growing up.
It's like.. you get a dog, and this dog refuses to be pet, and bites you.. so you spend time tracing where it came from,
and you never hit the dog because you know that would make it worse, instead you deal with the damage that has been done.
you deal with it in a way designed for that kind of damage, and when you find out the reasons why the dog bites you can
then solve the problem even better, because you know where its coming from, so you tell the dog why its angry.
(probably should not have used a dog metaphor here) and it will realize that its behaviour patterns are wrong.
my ex gf's reply to this would have been easy to predict though.
YOU THINK I'M A DOG ALEX? http://www.sega-16.com/forum/images/icons/sad.gif
The best sex organ is the brain.
Oh god I've become Rollins.
I got myself. :cool:
And that's the most important thing in your life, take good care of yourself because nobody else will.
Nobody will catch you when you fall, nobody will appreciate your feelings of support, and they'll fuck you over when they can.
Be a douchebag, that's really the only way to make it in this world.
What I don't have this or that? doesn't matter I'm awesome! what I didn't do good at this and that?
doesn't matter I'm great at other things. It's like a never ending pissing contest.
What you insult me for something I'm not good at? doesn't matter cause I'm much better at insulting you back,
I'll continue till there's people dying. So one day you wake up and wonder.. will this kind of thinking ever stop?
when will people finally be open and fair to each other? maybe in death? is death the only solution to the chaos
that we call life?.
Life is a game, and every part of me keeps hoping that someday they'll play fair. (silly as it is)
What many of us fail to ever realize is that exactly what you are talking about is due to the fact that we are victims of the whole capitalist economic system hoodwinking that our governments have perpretated. All capitalism does is continually pit you against me and me against others. It's all a game to see how we can collect and gather the most things for ourselves. Who cares about the other guy? I have never had the experience of living in a socialist culture, but have to think it is even somewhat better that what the populace has been duped into in USA. Maybe Netherlands, where you live, is a socialist government and things are not any better? I don't know, but tend to think that the larger part of the things you lament are directly attributable to capitalist greed. Unfortunately, many women are not out for love, but how they can garner the most material goods, and that often includes latching onto the wealthiest guys. Guys do the same in kind, and on goes capitalism. Prove me wrong on this idea.
We might have different arrangements regarding welfare/retirement/health insurance, but the people still
watch the same crap on tv as you guys, we read the same news, play with the same tech.. so we still have
the same hopes and dreams. Sadly.. these hopes and dreams have gotten more and more ridicilous.
I still don't understand how this woman has money in the first place. Why is she popular again? Does she honestly think she has a practical use for an AMG Mercedes Benz? I guarantee it has the automatic flappy-paddle gearbox built specifically for people who can't drive or can't handle so much power. Such a beautiful sports car for the race track completely wasted.
Sorry. Off topic.
I've only had one actual girlfriend, that was this year and online, never was there when I needed her the most (despite her complaints about me not being there for a day and her being gone for a week at a time not even telling me what was going on). We tried to fix it but it didn't work because of something I did when we were technically broken up and she had no indication of trying to fix it and then leaving for three weeks. A guess there was a fwb sort of thing too that was almost a girlfriend I don't even know, that started online but went to real life.
I grew up in a religious cult that's left me will all kinds of personal things that I have to deal with all sorts of mental issues. Eh, I want to be married and have children someday, I just have to find someway to turn myself into not damaged goods is all.
I've been married for 15 years. I've trampled through the dating scene, screwed over a dozen woman (a couple of them were married) and partied in my 20's like it was going out of style.
My best advice to you single guys is that woman do not want so much to hear about you. They like to tell you about their day and when they tell you about a problem, don't tell them how to fix it; They will ask you for help with a situation, when they want your advice. Don't come off as desperate, because a woman will see that, like a shark smells blood in the water. Show confidence in yourself, and they will find you more appealing.
1) Dating is confusing now. Know a girl a week, go on date. Okay. If she doesn't want to feel your dick or your not feeling up on her, you really aren't into each other people say ? If you don't fuck it, no spark, she don't like you really ? Why not wait until another date for that, or later, just make out, get to know each other, have class. Ex left late on date, so I guess she couldn't wait, or wasn't interested, or got a booty call or maybe wanted to wait but made it clear she wanted fuck thrusting pussy yeah I get it but damn you want to give it up on first date, wow how many times you do that. Everybody and every situation is different it's so confusing :daze:
2) People now a days don't communicate. I blame it on smartphones and medication (almost everyone is on pills and wacked out).
3) Nobody wants to try and work things out. If she ain't happy, boom, gone.