MD vs SMS versions

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Originally Posted by SEGA-Jorge

Are you saying you like Rambo III and Ghouls n' Ghosts on the Master System more than the Genesis/MD versions? That's crazy talk...

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I like Rambo First Blood Part 2 on sms (guess it never came out for md, got stuff confused) I know Rambo 3 came out for both but I don't remember them too much. I really like ghouls n ghosts on sms, I dig it, it saves me rom space for more md games in A to N folder (like 21 games, max text line space for everdrive to display rom names per folder) so I just play GnG sms version which my sms A to N folder only has 11 games.



So people are wrong, there was no Ghouls n Ghosts for nes only Ghosts 'n Goblins , are the games identical hence confusions or just titles kind of identical causing confusion ?

Ghosts 'n Goblins is the first game in the series, it kinda sucks. The arcade version is a little better.

Yeah thats what everyone calls "ghouls n ghosts they have for nes " ? But it's actually just ghouls n goblins (1st in series as you say, there was no ghouls n ghosts on nes yes) ? The sms and md games are actually ghouls n ghosts, I mean what is the difference between ghouls n goblins nes and ghouls ghousts on segas ? They look the same, idk.

You got 6 minutes? watch this, it shows Ghosts N Goblins > Ghouls N Ghosts > Super Ghouls N Ghosts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYdvr_boyS4

God I love that lullaby music they have during the slide-shows.

Ok cool, damn they look the same ha.

I never realized how different the SMS GnG was(well, at least the addition of the store anyway). Then again, for the longest time I thought SGnG was GnG with "Super" added to the title, to go with the SNES, like how a lot of titles on the N64 ended with "64."

Is there a site or anything that actually goes over these kinds of differences in games with the same/similar names?

Ghouls N Ghosts was a MASSIVE step up in every way from Ghost's N Goblins. "Super" Ghouls N Ghosts should have been called Super Ghosts N Goblins.

Where do you see the similarities between SGnG and Ghosts N Goblins?

I've always seen SGnG as Ghouls N Ghosts DLC

The speed and the lack of up and down weapon lobbing is much closer to Ghosts N Goblins than the excellent Ghouls N Ghosts. Also, the absurd forced difficulty resembles the earlier game more than the later.

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Originally Posted by sheath

Why do we keep including R-Type versus the MD library?

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No idea. And no reason to prefer it over R-Types anyway.

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Originally Posted by Melf

There's also now a great homebrew version of MUSHA on the Master System!

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Do we know this is real yet?

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Originally Posted by Gogogadget

http://www.retrobits.com.br/wp-conte.../2008/01/5.png

Impressive? Game plays like ass and the graphics and music are a far cry from the MD version

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Again, the CHARACTER GRAPHICS look near 16 bit. I even said the gameplay and music were subpar, but graphically (NEAR, IMO) almost like md when looking at characters and Ryu stage.

http://i43.tinypic.com/112bwyg.png

What I said.

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SF2 on sms is on par with sf2 md graphically damn near imo, but sms sf2 control blows.

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I'm saying the graphics on sms sf2 are impressive, characters look like md version basically. Then again, they look good on another 8 bit system too, tg16.

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Yes it's overall HORRIBLE compared to sf2 on md. But it wouldn't be bad if Tec Toy didn't fuck up the control/gameplay/speed.

Yeah, the Makaimura (Ghosts n' Goblins) series are all pretty different. I don't agree with the perceived lack of quality when it comes to Ghosts n' Goblins, that game is an arcade masterpiece, as is Ghouls n' Ghosts. It's the Master System version and the SNES Super Ghouls n' Ghosts and to some degree the PSP Ultimate Ghosts n Goblins, which more or less complicated/simplified perfectly sensible formulas. I think that SNES Super Ghoul's n Ghosts was just unplayable in many ways, and was not nearly as well paced as Ghosts n' Goblins/ Ghouls n' Ghosts. While the Master System Ghouls was just trying to shoehorn some silly mechanics into a game that didn't need them. It's just really sluggish and silly in its presentation/ gameplay, and really didn't need any of that abstraction in the form of treasure box stores. Meh... Anyway, I like them all, but the Genesis version of Ghouls n' Ghosts is just great. It was a great arcade port of a classic arcade game, but done by Sega, as, at the time, they knew the Genesis/MD tech so damn well. It's really good stuff.

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Originally Posted by SEGA-Jorge

While the Master System Ghouls was just trying to shoehorn some silly mechanics into a game that didn't need them. It's just really sluggish and silly in its presentation/ gameplay, and really didn't need any of that abstraction in the form of treasure box stores. Meh... Anyway, I like them all, but the Genesis version of Ghouls n' Ghosts is just great. It was a great arcade port of a classic arcade game, but done by Sega, as, at the time, they knew the Genesis/MD tech so damn well. It's really good stuff.

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Sega did the sms version of GnG too. And Final Fight CD, thank goodness. So as for the first 3 games in series...

So GnGoblins arcade
GnGoblins shit nes version, NOT GnGhosts as 99% people refer to it as
GnGhosts arcade
GnGhosts sms, md, supergrafx and other console releases
SGnGhosts/actual goblins as sheath said, snes

Saturn 3 in 1 collection

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Originally Posted by Vector

They did the sms version of GnG too. And Final Fight CD, thank goodness. So as for the first 3 games in series...

So GnGoblins arcade
GnGoblins shit nes version, NOT GnGhosts as 99% people refer to it as
GnGhosts arcade
GnGhosts sms, md, supergrafx and other console releases
SGnGhosts/actual goblins as sheath said, snes

Saturn 3 in 1 collection

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That's about right. Now remember, it's all part of the Makaimura series, which is Ghosts/Ghosts n Goblins, Demons Crest Ect., Maximo, and the Makaimura puzzle games.

Cool, so the md version and supergrafx version fight for top console ghouls n ghosts (saturn music seemed off).

Sms version isn't that bad at all, I think egm gave it 8's and 9's while md version got all 9's (maybe game of year the year after legendary axe ?).