Coping with Nintendo fan boys/girls

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Originally Posted by midnightrider

I can't agree with that. It's most likely that the Master System has a better ratio for quality, that's always going to be the double edged sword to 3rd party support, but the NES just has a lot of damn good games, amongst it's library of ****loads of games. Just as much crap though(the other edge of said sword).

So, apparently DKC can throw it's hat into the "fast as Sonic" pool:
(commenter on the 2nd to last paragraph, not the article itself)
http://www.usgamer.net/articles/reco...y-handed-bluff

So, what is it about these things that do get under our skin anyway? I mean I can give the SNES the aesthetic advantage, but not by the country mile overzealous fanboys want to give it. I can't let it have "superiority" because if it were to have that, it would have to excel at every aspect over it's competition, and it clearly doesn't. This would never have been a competition, or an argument, if either console had superiority over the other. It's like what aesthetic advantage it does have is enough to pull the wool over peoples eyes, and DKC is the perfect representative for the console overall, in that aspect.

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Well said. I'd toss some rep but I need to spread it around.

Well you could always try flushing them down the toilet

You know what's better than Donkey Kong Country? Every other Donkey Kong game.

I think you're gonna see a sea-change as far as this behavior is concerned in younger people, SEGA's big on mobile where the kiddies are; Nintendo's refused the market entirely.

Not that I like mobile gaming, I actively despise it but it will change mindhsare and already has.

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Originally Posted by Kamahl

You know what's better than Donkey Kong Country? Every other Donkey Kong game.

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Pretty much.

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Originally Posted by Kamahl

You know what's better than Donkey Kong Country? Every other Donkey Kong game.

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I have to agree on this one. Donkey Kong Country was hyped to the point where it was marketed as nearly the Jesus of videogames. I actually remember playing it at a kiosk when I was about 4 or 5 and saying the game sucked. And yes I did use that word because my older sister used it all the time and I watched Beavis and Butthead nearly every day. Aside from the fancy pre-rendered graphics, the gameplay and level design was really shallow compared to say Mario or Sonic. Hell I like the level design of Tinhead better than that of DKC.

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Originally Posted by GriskaGyoran

I have to agree on this one. Donkey Kong Country was hyped to the point where it was marketed as nearly the Jesus of videogames. I actually remember playing it at a kiosk when I was about 4 or 5 and saying the game sucked. And yes I did use that word because my older sister used it all the time and I watched Beavis and Butthead nearly every day. Aside from the fancy pre-rendered graphics, the gameplay and level design was really shallow compared to say Mario or Sonic. Hell I like the level design of Tinhead better than that of DKC.

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I've always thought that an interesting hack to do to high profile popular classics which are known for their aesthetics, would be to replace the sprites and tiles with non-animated single colored squares. Just enough shape so you can see where collision occurs and removing all sound which doesn't affect gameplay. Any sounds which are important cues should be replaced by boring sounds.

I wonder how amazing the DKC games would seem to non-SNES fanboys if they were hacked like that. All that would matter to fanboys is if it was still run on SNES hardware.

Fanboys will trash a game they champion if it appears on rival consoles and say it's an inferior imitation. Like how on that "Gaming in the 90's" show, in one of their rare non-Nintendo reviews, they covered the Genesis version of Toy Story simply to prove SNES superiority. Even going so far as to say that the Sega version sucks because it couldn't use the same Pixar cgi workstations that DKC and Toy Story SNES did.

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Originally Posted by Black_Tiger

I wonder how amazing the DKC games would seem to non-SNES fanboys if they were hacked like that. All that would matter to fanboys is if it was still run on SNES hardware.

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Would certainly be interesting to see, but you'd definitely need a good sprite guy

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Originally Posted by Black_Tiger

Fanboys will trash a game they champion if it appears on rival consoles and say it's an inferior imitation. Like how on that "Gaming in the 90's" show, in one of their rare non-Nintendo reviews, they covered the Genesis version of Toy Story simply to prove SNES superiority. Even going so far as to say that the Sega version sucks because it couldn't use the same Pixar cgi workstations that DKC and Toy Story SNES did.

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It's the same with Shadowrun as well. SR Returns probably wouldn't even have existed without the SNES version, which is kind of sad really :/

Visually speaking Shadowrun on the Genesis does look like a flaming turd, but that's mostly the fault of the overhead perspective (I didn't even know where the fixer was in the bar). Had the game's layout been done like (and god help me for saying this) Mario is Missing, I think it would have turned out better overall

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Originally Posted by Kamahl

You know what's better than Donkey Kong Country? Every other Donkey Kong game.

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Even the Nuts & Milk Donkey Kong 2 hack is better than Donkey Kong Country.

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Originally Posted by old man

Even the Nuts & Milk Donkey Kong 2 hack is better than Donkey Kong Country.

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Pics or it didn't happen.

I never really liked the first DKC. My brother does though. I've always liked the second one though, as I think the level design and music are both much better.

*Vamp is playing Donkey Kong Country real cart on his US Snes and pretending its the early 90's again.*

YOUR INSULTS WILL NEVER DIMINISH MY JOY!!

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Originally Posted by Metalwario64

I never really liked the first DKC. My brother does though. I've always liked the second one though, as I think the level design and music are both much better.

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I'm sure even the DKC fanboys here agree, DKC2 is a much better game.

Gave the original a serious playthrough maybe a year or 2 ago. It wasn't my kind of thing, and it turned me off to the rest of the series. In '94 I'm sure I would have been with everyone else, all "that looks great." Looking back at it in recent years, I prefer 2d sprites to the visuals in those games.

Don't seem to have a lot to respond to lately, but after thinking about the general subject, with the Youtube videos and everything, it hits me like, it would take fanboys to even bring the subject up, nevermind to go as far as they do in some of those videos.

If I have to use the term, the difference between a gamer and a fanboy, is that a gamer puts the games before the consoles, whereas a fanboy puts the console first. If anyone cared about gaming as a hobby, it wouldn't matter what machines the games were on, just that they were good games to play.

I'm not fond of the idea of "holding up" or "standing the test of time" either. I still enjoy VCS/2600 or 70's-early 80's arcade games, regardless of where the graphics, sound, and general gameplay compare to what has come out since. It's like suggesting no one should be allowed to enjoy anything pre-NES(if even that "holds up"), which would be on par with saying silent movies shouldn't be enjoyed, or music prior to the 80's(or something) shouldn't be enjoyed. It just sounds almost as fanboyish as making video games about the hardware they're released on.

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Originally Posted by midnightrider

Don't seem to have a lot to respond to lately, but after thinking about the general subject, with the Youtube videos and everything, it hits me like, it would take fanboys to even bring the subject up, nevermind to go as far as they do in some of those videos.

If I have to use the term, the difference between a gamer and a fanboy, is that a gamer puts the games before the consoles, whereas a fanboy puts the console first. If anyone cared about gaming as a hobby, it wouldn't matter what machines the games were on, just that they were good games to play.

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Well said sir! Have some rep

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Originally Posted by tomaitheous

Pics or it didn't happen.

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This video kind of sucks, but it's the only one I could find. And yes I would rather play this than Donkey Kong Country :p .